This is a thread for new and not so new models to use as a reference in case a particular question comes up. I know some of the threads in the forums are full of incorrect information or go completely off-topic, so we created this thread to help you sort through all the clutter.
So, letâs get started:
The most common scam people ask about in the forums turn out to really be Nigerian Scams. They aren't new... and definitely not only associated with modeling. So, if you receive a message you think may be one, go here http://www.newmodels.com/Nigeria.html , and it should help to clear up some things.
Ok, so if you get an email and you are sure it isn't a Nigerian Scam, but still aren't sure if it is legit, I will break down the common ways to determine whether or not you will be ripped off. Letâs dissect the message you may have received. Often times, there are major clues that tip you off to a scamâ¦. Clue #1: Iâm not being mean, Iâm just being honestâ¦ if you are 5â2 and you receive an e-mail informing you that some agent/ talent coordinator/ designer/ model scout wants to fly you to another country for a âFashion Showâ, be wary. The typical height for a fashion model (runway and editorial) is between 5â8 and 6â0 (www.newmodels.com), and since designers use sample sizes, the odds of them tailoring a garment specifically to you are slim to none. Clue #2: If you are told that you will be sent a Money Order/ Check and you have to cash it and send a portion back to the original sender, be very wary. This is one of the most common scams out there. Itâs not just used in the Modeling Industry. It is a well-known scam. This link details it better, http://www.newmodels.com/myths.html Clue #3: If you are asked to do an interview over a web cam, runaway. No reputable agency will ever ask you to undress/pose on a web cam. Bottom line, if you feel uneasy at all about a âjob offerâ you receive, do a www.Google.com or www.Google.ca on the company/ person offering to hire you. More times than not, you will find something pertaining to whether or not itâs a scam immediately.Also, thanks to SayCheez!, you can also use this site to help you decipher whether or not you are dealing with a scammer.
Do I have what it takes to make it in the industry/what genre would I be better in? By going to these links will answer all your questions: Mainstream Modeling (i.e. Fashion, Editorial and Commercial) and Plus-Sized Modeling. DO NOT WORRY IF YOU DONâT FIT ANY OF THOSE STANDARDS!!! You can still modelâ¦. Fashion modeling isnât the end all. There are many other genres that you could go into (i.e. Glamour, Art, Art Nudes, Fetish, Alt, Swimsuit, and Lingerie). You just have to find your niche.
How do I know my exact measurements?:
Will doing nudes hinder my career? Doing/shooting nudes doesn't make someone a whore/pervert.... Even high fashion involves some sort of nudity (be it topless, implied or full nudity). But, only do nudity if you are completely comfortable. No one would/should ever force you into doing something you just arenât ready to do. You donât have to do nudity, but outside of the fashion world, it will limit your paid work opportunities. That doesnât mean that if you arenât fashion material you have to do porn. There are various outlets that use nudity in a tasteful manner.
For the sake of your career and reputation, DO NOT start an outing thread in ANY of the forums. They always turn into a he-said/ she-said pissing match and they are against the forum rules http://modelmayhem.com/p.php?thread_id=178611. In the end, you will do more damage to yourself than the person you are outing.
Tattoosâ¦ They can enhance and also hinder. For non-mainstream models, tattoos arenât usually a big dealâ¦ itâs mostly the preference of the photographer. But, for commercial and fashion models, there is a Customer and you could lose out on a big job if the Customer is adamant on using a non-tattooed model. You really have to think whatâs more importantâ¦Your tattoo or your potential career.
I know this was already touched on a little, but it is something that needs to be brought up againâ¦.. Often times, you will see posts saying, âI'm only 5'0, but I can kill a runway.... The Industry just isn't being fair......â Itâs not about being fair or how hard you can rip the runway. Fashion shows are not about the model. Fashion shows are put on to showcase the clothing. There are many factors that go into why taller models are used. This thread, http://modelmayhem.com/p.php?thread_id=112761, explains it in more detail.
For future reference.... you can also check out the older version of this thread...
And, for all my Gorgeous Glamour models out there.... the beautiful Dara_w
I would like to thank, Roger (TXPhotog) for the site www.newmodels.com, UdoR for his runway thread, and TheStitchWitch for her link on proper measurements.
Sep 14 07 10:38 pm Link
Spokane, Missouri, US
Sep 14 07 10:40 pm Link
Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)
I said it before i will say it again....
I love me some Fifi
Oct 03 07 05:42 pm Link
El Segundo, California, US
Maybe reference old thread in OP?
Oct 03 07 06:01 pm Link
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Great new website regarding nigerian 419 type of scams:
New York, New York, US
Thanks for doing this.
Oct 03 07 06:05 pm Link
Brigham City, Utah, US
another thing I've noticed lately is that new models don't always understand that the really important part of the email address is AFTER the @ symbol.
Anyone can be email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org the domain name is a whole lot more helpful than whatever cute title the scammers think sounds legitimate... *scratches head* but I somehow doubt the folks that need to learn that lesson most are going to take note.
Oct 03 07 06:08 pm Link
Lake Forest, Florida, US
i request this page be made into some kind of direct link or something so that as soon as someone wants to post a thread with the word "scam", they are directed here.
Oct 03 07 06:11 pm Link
Marina del Rey, California, US
does this mean any new "is this a scam" postings can be replied to with this link and a "look here, dumbass" response? cuz that's what they're gonna get!
Oct 03 07 06:16 pm Link
I'm not a mod, but I'd say go for it!
Oct 03 07 06:18 pm Link
Winchester, Virginia, US
I got an e-mail saying that I've been chosen by Model Mayhem staff for a possible modeling job. Is this a scam?
Some scam e-mails will drop names in order to gain a sense of validity. Here's is an actual example of a scam that's currently running:
The truth is, modelmayhem.com is not affiliated with any agencies. We do not perform any type of screening or referrals to any third-party organizations. If any e-mail claims that they got your name from us, then it's a sign of scam.
Oct 05 07 01:02 am Link
Oct 05 07 01:30 am Link
Southaven, Mississippi, US
Why would that be any different than what you do normally?
Oct 05 07 01:32 am Link
Marina del Rey, California, US
Greg Cobb Photography wrote:
good point. at least now the low tolerance for stupidity will be presented with being able to point those to an area for reading more.
Oct 06 07 11:27 am Link
Boca Raton, Florida, US
Oct 06 07 11:29 am Link
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
I was due to shoot this morning with an Amanda off here. We organised it a week ago and thought of everything, costume, place, times, even swapped numbers. When I arrived this morning with MY WHOLE FAMILY there, I rang her as she want in sight. She gave me a fake number. I and my Family were devestated. She even showed me examples of what she was after. Im so upset. It can happen to anyone, even if you think yuve thought of everything!
Oct 07 07 11:27 pm Link
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
I have had many people try to pull the 'online interview' on me.
Just last night I was offered 5 thousand dollars from a man who i assume was posing to be from General Motors Holden, apparently they needed a model to appear in their new tv ads...ok, good, can be done....but then he needed a webcam interview, to this I denied, at which stage the payment got raised to 7.5 thousand....well, who would have seen that coming!?
Either way, I ended up being offered a supposed 15 thousand dollars for a webcam interview in which I was going to be required to 'show cleavage'....umm, how about no!
At this point, the self entitled 'Public Relations manager' (woh never deal with models anyway, duh) got "very angry" with me. Honestly, people like this think models are very gullable.
I also have a few tips-
#1-if there is no phone number to contact=fake
#2-if stated from an agency or company and they wont give u a office address=fake
#3-money is never given in a 'down payment to ur account', especially before u have even done the job!! If anyone asks for ur account number, firstly dont give it to then, n then tell em to go jump!=fake!
#4-anyone who trys to make u do anything remotely unprofessional, or trys to convnce u of anything=fake
#5-webcam interviews in general=fake!
I myself am personally going to contact GMHolden and inform them that a scammer is using their company name to attempt to rip off models, hopefully something can be done.
Oct 11 07 11:40 pm Link
Okay so I did get a one of the messages for a job and they sent me a check for over 1800 dollars. It appears to be a real check. Forgive me for seeming stupid but how can they take the money out of your account without permission. If you deposit it wouldn't the bank object that you deposit it in.
Oct 13 07 11:57 am Link
Oct 13 07 12:03 pm Link
So, the check is not good? That is the question.
Oct 13 07 12:08 pm Link
BTW thanks Star - that is a very informative site!
Oct 13 07 12:09 pm Link
2 things, not to sound harsh but
Oct 13 07 12:14 pm Link
Yes I did read it and you don't sound harsh. I am just wondering why they send the check. It appears real. I worked in a bank before and it has all the correct features for a check. They haven't asked me to do anything - yet anyway. Just seems absurd that they would send a check with no instructions.
Oct 13 07 12:17 pm Link
just got the second message, disregard #1
Oct 13 07 12:18 pm Link
if it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck and walks like a duck
Oct 13 07 12:24 pm Link
Got it and thanks - just a curious thing.
Oct 13 07 12:39 pm Link
Chicago, Illinois, US
Oct 25 07 01:43 pm Link
Memphis, Tennessee, US
What happens is you deposit that check, it seems to clear and you spend the money or send some of it back. In reality, it can take 15 business days for your bank to determine that it's a fake - at this point your bank will hold you responsible for that check. You will have to pay your own bank back for the full amount. It's not their liability, it's yours.
Oct 27 07 05:49 pm Link
Houston, Texas, US
There is a Scam right now from 9mm Clothing (9mmusa.com) They are claiming to be hosting a contest searching for models for a national magazine spread promoting their clothing. They ask you to purchase a $45 t-shirt, take pics in it, send them in and they will select a winner to receive a huge cash prize and spread.
Just google it for yourself. It's all over the net and I can't believe I bit the bait!
Don't let it happen to you. Scamming bastards...
Oct 31 07 12:56 am Link
Miami, Florida, US
I'm just glad that all this information is being shared here. It's about time.
Nov 03 07 05:42 pm Link
Martinsburg, West Virginia, US
some fool has been trying to scam me lately...
I cussed him out and stuff...
and he was like...
"so we're gonna do this, right?"
LOL, what an idiot
then he was like...
"I'm gonna send you cash since you are my friend"
that fool can send me all the cash he wants
anyone else wanna send me some... go for it!
Nov 07 07 05:45 pm Link
Detroit, Michigan, US
There are a large number of modeling scams out there. Some are just re-invented to be attractive to models. I have had to facilitate investigations on a number of them. First, on overseas modeling jobs, the women in Europe and what was once the soviet union are just as pretty as the women anywhere else and in those countries the average salary can be as little as $30 per month. Don't ever go anywhere when you are told you don't need a passport. You will be working in hell. Check out the Interpol website on human trafficking. www.ftc.gov has specific pages relating to modeling scams. Check that out also. Be safe, be careful, be smart. Larry Crider ps. my work email is email@example.com if you have any other questions. OOops, now I will get bombarded. OGHS (Old gray haired Sarge)
Nov 09 07 11:05 pm Link
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
I like the one I just got on AIM:
Me: Who is this?
VrRod7: This is Veronica Rodriguez with Chase Warner Modeling, how are you today?
Me: Fine, yourself?
VrRod7: I'm terrific! Do you have any current representation?
Me: No, not any more.
VrRod7: Are you actively pursuing modeling jobs?
Me: I am pursuing jobs rather intermittently; I have a career now.
VrRod7: What do you do?
Me: I partially own and operate an ER vet clinic, not that it matters.
VrRod7: That's terrific! Must be very rewarding!
Me: Uh huh. Um, where did you say you got my screenname from?
VrRod7: Well, I'm the internet scout for our agency and got it off of one of the modeling websites.
Me: Which one? Don't you have that information in front of you? And by the way, I'm having a terribly difficult time finding anything about your company online, so maybe you could tell me what sort of talent you prefer to represent.
VrRod7: ***This user has signed off and will receive any messages you send when they sign back in.***
What an assclown. Do your research ladies and gentlemen. Normally I don't even respond to these, but sometimes it's just fun.
Nov 12 07 08:06 pm Link
Key West, Florida, US
I recieved this email and i sent it to Fiona Galley, the editorial assistant at Essentials magazine, who told me that this is a NIGERIAN SCAM and that she has reported it to the Police.
My name is James Smith, i am freelance modelling agent working for essenials magazine in New York recruiting models for Essentials Magazine currently wanting models for a new and special edition of the magazine.I saw your profile and pictues while surfing the internet, I appreciate them and I would like us to do some works together.I presently have good offer for you. I want to know if you are interested in modeling because I need pictures of a good looking person who will be on the magazine cover of one of next month edition.Please let me know if you are interested in the Job. You stand a chance of making reasonable $600 from this deal to start,and even a noticeable fame. Let me know if you are interested by mailing me in my offer and I would give you further details and you can aswell visit the website....
Nov 14 07 06:55 pm Link
Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Im pretty sure this is a scam! Anyone else had this email.I am so sick of scammers i have had five in one week!!!!
I am lorren smiths Modeling Manager. "Hi,i'm lorren,representing a modelling
company,Ghost Inc.London.Your picture could be used
for bill board advertisement and a magazine front
page advert.You dont need to pay a dim,all we need are good pictures of you and you will get paid , no commision , no overhead costs.You just get paid for pictures now.
Mail your pictures to firstname.lastname@example.org and
if u want to talk to the manager email@example.com you can call the admin department for your payment on
+447024063617 or send email to the address
given.Please note that for the first set of pictures
you'll get $300 only.
Ghost Inc Lon
Nov 15 07 12:40 pm Link
Don't fall for it, Love.
Nov 16 07 08:50 pm Link
Toledo, Ohio, US
I lurve scams!
Here's what I got today on AIM:
richardlitman (3:30:44 PM): i saw ur profile on MM
richardlitman (3:30:55 PM): making a movie..so wanted to talk to you
Me (3:32:05 PM): Okay
richardlitman (3:31:35 PM): can u get online?
Me (3:32:13 PM): Are you on there yourself?
richardlitman (3:31:56 PM): nope..im from italy..friend said its a good website..im a videographer not a photographer
Me (3:33:22 PM): Oh, okay.
richardlitman (3:33:07 PM): so are you too experienced? or just couple of years?
richardlitman (3:33:15 PM): i dont want too much experience..its a small part
Me (3:34:24 PM): Just a couple years and mostly just because of friends being photographers.
richardlitman (3:34:13 PM): ahh okok
richardlitman (3:34:23 PM): well pictures there are limited..have a portfolio?
Me (3:35:52 PM): I haven't really put one together yet.
richardlitman (3:35:28 PM): k well set o fpictures that you can send ?
Me (3:36:39 PM): I suppose I could put some together to send you.
richardlitman (3:36:19 PM): sure
richardlitman (3:36:22 PM): that will be great
richardlitman (3:36:28 PM): firstname.lastname@example.org
richardlitman (3:36:45 PM): now u seem to be ok with nudity aspect..i pay about 100 an hour..
Me (3:39:51 PM): Hate to do this but I gotta run right now. I'll send you an email when I get back.
richardlitman (3:39:40 PM): ok thanks..sometime today?
Me (3:40:26 PM): I'll do my best.
richardlitman (3:39:53 PM): take care
Me (3:40:39 PM): You too.
richardlitman signed off at 3:41:33 PM.
Yeah, I was very skeptical but played along a bit. Looked up his name and kept getting stuff on law firms and lawyers.
Nov 18 07 04:36 pm Link
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Update: That same person I listed above contacted me again! I pressed her for a website or reference and she refused to provide one even though she said they had several. What an idiot. But new girls beware - she said they specialize in "exposing young, upcoming talent". (I bet, in all the wrong ways!).
Nov 19 07 07:13 pm Link
Metairie, Louisiana, US
I'm not sure if this is a scam or not, but someone opened up a profile on MM and sent messages for a bikini voting site. I gave them a simple non-professional photo that I took of myself to put on their site. They never asked me for anything else, but they keep asking me to get people to "pay to vote for my picture"(and the price is a bit high). That sounded a little silly to me. Now I just delete the emails they send me. Does anyone know about this?
Nov 19 07 07:18 pm Link