Tina Berry wrote:

Because it's a 3 model, 15 photographer kind of deal... and instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... but I think it will end in me asking the person who contacted me because there are a lot of mixed (though still helpful) ideas about Penthouse style nudes.

Never be afraid to ask a photographer for a clear description of what he/she expects from you as a model. Don't feel stupid, afraid, shy or like you don't have a right to ask. If they make you feel inferior because of a simple question then you probably shouldn't be getting naked for the a-hole anyways.
If you always make everything clear before a shoot there won't be any drama there and after.

JD Swoger wrote:
Boy, lots of folks telling the young lady she is not ready to do that style of nude. Frankly it's her decision and I seem to recall all she asked was what is "what is up to Penthouse style nude".

lol.  Were you expecting this forum to stick to the subject and not get off track or into an argument?  Are you new here?  ;-)

Reby wrote:
Now Playboy is "soft porn".
I learn something new every day.

playboy has been moving steadily toward straight hardcore porn more and more if you ever catch playboy tv it shows a clear direction on where they have been headed on TV and the internet as well.

JD Swoger wrote:
Boy, lots of folks telling the young lady she is not ready to do that style of nude. Frankly it's her decision and I seem to recall all she asked was what is "what is up to Penthouse style nude".

Actually, no, you seem to recall incorrectly. That is not all she asked. She also asked "what can I expect if  I take this job"...answers to which have been given, in a variety of forms.

Julian Marsalis wrote:
playboy has been moving steadily toward straight hardcore porn more and more if you ever catch playboy tv it shows a clear direction on where they have been headed on TV and the internet as well.

When I hear PLAYBOY, I automatically think of Playboy Magazine, not the dozens of franchises they have in sublet magazines, television, or other media.

I keep hearing about how "hardcore" Playboy is getting - Take a look at the actual magazine; It's quite tame and probably as far away from any sort of porn as you can get, while still maintaining the current standards in the genre of nude glamour photography.

Dave Wright Photo SF wrote:

Dave Wright Photo SF wrote:
Radical idea: Why don't you ask the photographer?

I don't think asking for clarification about a job description is a sign of inexperience at all. A clear, written description of the job entails is more "professional" than a 2-word general idea of the sort of thing you'd maybe be asked to do.

She's looking for a standard, Dave, something to go by, a gage, not a horny photographer's definition.  She busted your chops!  Suck it up and think before trying to make someone look stupid because it backfired.

Tina Berry wrote:

Because it's a 3 model, 15 photographer kind of deal... and instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... but I think it will end in me asking the person who contacted me because there are a lot of mixed (though still helpful) ideas about Penthouse style nudes.

You don't have to sound inexperienced. Just tell the photographer who's running the group shoot what you're comfortable with shooting. If that's just basic nudity, fine. If it's sex with a mountain goat while wearing a rabbit costume...fine...just be clear what you will and won't shoot.

Rachel Mullins wrote:
I'm also friends with Arny Freytag (cheif PlayBoy photog for 25 years) and Josh Ryan (Playboy special editions)  I know what I'm talking about

.......  so na, nah-na, nah-na na...... 

Gotta love the youngsters.

Rick Hughes Photography wrote:

lol.  Were you expecting this forum to stick to the subject and not get off track or into an argument?  Are you new here?  ;-)

No, not new, but can't a boy hope that one day people will stay on track.

Manring Photo wrote:
Actually, no, you seem to recall incorrectly. That is not all she asked. She also asked "what can I expect if  I take this job"...answers to which have been given, in a variety of forms.

You are correct, but I don't seem to recall her asking if she should or should not pose nude. My point was all the unsolicited responses that she should not do nudes.

Rachel Mullins wrote:
I have shot penthouse filler and Cover (yesterday) I personaly know Earl Miller (most published PH photog in there history) PENTHOUSE tyle is SPREAD pink (if actuly for the mag someitmes toys are used) Playboy is all closed leg, no clit, ect
Anyother questions let me know>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, let's stop with the anecdotal information and let's get some facts.  Penthouse used to be explicit nudes including toys, urination, penetration, etc.  It included boy/girl sex at times and was hardcore, pornographic.

The magazine went bankrupt because it could no longer sell advertising.  The new owners have turned the magazine into a publication which is tamer than Playboy.  The result is that they now have advertisers.  However, and this is a big however, they have a website and shoot most of the models in explicit styles online.  So the magazine is tame and the website is explicit. 

None of this is relevant.  What is important is that the OP know what will be expected of her.  The term "Penthouse style nudes" simply means explicit nudes.  Clearly open leg, some people may expect toys or masturbation.  It is contrasted with "Playboy Style Nudes" which are clearly full nudes, even with some degree of open leg, but less explicit.

However, even that is less important.  What she wants to know is what will be expected of her at the group shoot.  Since this is a San Diego, Penthouse style group shoot, I can answer that with some certainty.  I am familiar with the events and the promoter.

Nothing terrible is going to happen to the OP.  It is all about comfort level.  These are explicit shoots.  What will be expected of her is to do full nudes and she will clearly be asked to do open leg.  She will find that there will be other girls at the shoot who may do toys and masturbation.  If she does full, open leg nudes she will be fine.  She may get asked for more, but as long as she is nude, people probably aren't going to care (although they will clearly ask for more).

It sounds like the OP wants to go into this kind of thing.  As Penthouse style events go, this one is fine.  She should expect some of your pictures to end up on the Internet as well.  Some photographers there shoot for web content and will ask for releases.  Most will expect to pay for them but not all.

Reby wrote:
Now Playboy is "soft porn".
I learn something new every day.

Julian Marsalis wrote:
playboy has been moving steadily toward straight hardcore porn more and more if you ever catch playboy tv it shows a clear direction on where they have been headed on TV and the internet as well.

Except that Playboy still doesn't produce any hardcore intercourse themselves.  If it is hardcore, they either purchased the content for Playboy TV off the shelf or contracted for it.  They are certainly more explicit on Playboy TV, but if it is truly, truly explicit, it is a third party actually shooting it.

( ANT ) Mgaphoto wrote:

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Phil Edelstein wrote:
Sounds like a shoot "gang bang" to me, I'd steer clear unless it's enough $ to put your kids thru college lol

yeah what he said

ei Total Productions wrote:

OK, let's stop with the anecdotal information and let's get some facts.  Penthouse used to be explicit nudes including toys, urination, penetration, etc.  It included boy/girl sex at times and was hardcore, pornographic.

The magazine went bankrupt because it could no longer sell advertising.  The new owners have turned the magazine into a publication which is tamer than Playboy.  The result is that they now have advertisers.  However, and this is a big however, they have a website and shoot most of the models in explicit styles online.  So the magazine is tame and the website is explicit. 

None of this is relevant.  What is important is that the OP know what will be expected of her.  The term "Penthouse style nudes" simply means explicit nudes.  Clearly open leg, some people may expect toys or masturbation.  It is contrasted with "Playboy Style Nudes" which are clearly full nudes, even with some degree of open leg, but less explicit.

However, even that is less important.  What she wants to know is what will be expected of her at the group shoot.  Since this is a San Diego, Penthouse style group shoot, I can answer that with some certainty.  I am familiar with the events and the promoter.

Nothing terrible is going to happen to the OP.  It is all about comfort level.  These are explicit shoots.  What will be expected of her is to do full nudes and she will clearly be asked to do open leg.  She will find that there will be other girls at the shoot who may do toys and masturbation.  If she does full, open leg nudes she will be fine.  She may get asked for more, but as long as she is nude, people probably aren't going to care (although they will clearly ask for more).

It sounds like the OP wants to go into this kind of thing.  As Penthouse style events go, this one is fine.  She should expect some of your pictures to end up on the Internet as well.  Some photographers there shoot for web content and will ask for releases.  Most will expect to pay for them but not all.

A lengthy, factual, well-informed and useful explanation. The most important thing is for the beautiful OP model to be clear with the organizer about exactly what her comfort level is and what she will and won't do.

Tina Berry wrote:
I have a potential modeling gig later this month for "up to Penthouse style nudes" and I'm just wondering what that entails. I understand that Playboy nudes are considered soft-porn, generally closed legs. What can I expect if I were to take this job?

Thank you! I apologize if this is a repeat subject.

Tina Berry

Hey Tina best way to see what to expect is do a google search on playboy images and also one for penthouse images compare the two styles and you will see the diffrence. Oh make sure to take of safe mode in image search.

IMOP playboy is more classy and more on the beauty side penthouse is a little more raunchy and i don't see as much tasteful images coming from a penthouse shoot as there is open legs and everything is visible .

bobby sargent wrote:

I have seen all kinds of Pink on Penthouse.  Unless they have changed in the last 10 years since I last saw one. bs

They are more Maxim these days.

SayCheeZ! wrote:
How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb?

Evidently, a whole bunch!   1 to change it.  8 to tell you what the old light bulb looked like.  7 to tell you what the new light bulb looks like.  12 to compare a your light bulb to other light bulbs. 7 to warn you about changing light bulbs, and 3 to tell you that you shouldn't change your light bulb. 

*** and one to make sarcastic jokes about photographers changing light bulbs ***

LOL

ei Total Productions wrote:

Reby wrote:
Now Playboy is "soft porn".
I learn something new every day.

Except that Playboy still doesn't produce any hardcore intercourse themselves.  If it is hardcore, they either purchased the content for Playboy TV off the shelf or contracted for it.  They are certainly more explicit on Playboy TV, but if it is truly, truly explicit, it is a third party actually shooting it.

I don't see much difference between 'producing hardcore themselves' and investing over one hundred million dollars into a company that 'produces' it for them.

KM

JoJo Suicide wrote:
Playboy – think cute cuddly bunnies
Penthouse – think beavers
Hustler – think beavers with teeth

I do so love your sense of humor.

Sophistocles wrote:
John, what does that picture have to do with your post?

I know you didn't want to take this off topic for no reason at all, "Sophistocles". I'm sure you are truly interested in understanding all the intricacies of my post. The picture was shot as part of my assignment for Playboy. And thanks for asking, "Sophistocles". A quick visit to my site would have set your mind at ease. I'm sure you understand not every one who says things on this forum (or any other forum for that mater) actually has the bona fides to back up what they say.

John
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Tina Berry wrote:
I have a potential modeling gig later this month for "up to Penthouse style nudes" and I'm just wondering what that entails. I understand that Playboy nudes are considered soft-porn, generally closed legs. What can I expect if I were to take this job?

Thank you! I apologize if this is a repeat subject.

Tina Berry

Semi closed legs, or a more natural leg position in the print edition, spreads and relative close-ups for the web edition.

Here's the wonderful penthouse pet the Czech adult actress Aneta Smrhova:
18+
http://galleries.penthouse.com/g/0018/01/NDozOjE
http://galleries.penthouse.com/g/0019/0 … 6MQ,0,0,0,

Judge for yourself.

ei Total Productions wrote:

OK, let's stop with the anecdotal information and let's get some facts.  Penthouse used to be explicit nudes including toys, urination, penetration, etc.  It included boy/girl sex at times and was hardcore, pornographic.

The magazine went bankrupt because it could no longer sell advertising.  The new owners have turned the magazine into a publication which is tamer than Playboy.  The result is that they now have advertisers.  However, and this is a big however, they have a website and shoot most of the models in explicit styles online.  So the magazine is tame and the website is explicit. 

None of this is relevant.  What is important is that the OP know what will be expected of her.  The term "Penthouse style nudes" simply means explicit nudes.  Clearly open leg, some people may expect toys or masturbation.  It is contrasted with "Playboy Style Nudes" which are clearly full nudes, even with some degree of open leg, but less explicit.

However, even that is less important.  What she wants to know is what will be expected of her at the group shoot.  Since this is a San Diego, Penthouse style group shoot, I can answer that with some certainty.  I am familiar with the events and the promoter.

Nothing terrible is going to happen to the OP.  It is all about comfort level.  These are explicit shoots.  What will be expected of her is to do full nudes and she will clearly be asked to do open leg.  She will find that there will be other girls at the shoot who may do toys and masturbation.  If she does full, open leg nudes she will be fine.  She may get asked for more, but as long as she is nude, people probably aren't going to care (although they will clearly ask for more).

It sounds like the OP wants to go into this kind of thing.  As Penthouse style events go, this one is fine.  She should expect some of your pictures to end up on the Internet as well.  Some photographers there shoot for web content and will ask for releases.  Most will expect to pay for them but not all.

An excellent explanation.  To followup, since my day job is in the magazine industry, yes it's true-the new owners backed off on the magazine's content to get advertisers.  While online I hear is pretty hardcore, Penthouse is NOT pink like it once was.

My suggestion to the OP--buy some single digital back issues at www.zinio.com.  she'll get a better understanding of what they are looking for.

Good luck with your shoot

Digital Studio G wrote:
My best advice - spend a few bucks on the current issues of both mags.  Then you can see first hand what might be expected.

My guess is that with 3 models and 15 photographers you're going to be asked to simulate sexual acts (Penthouse). 

Since there isn't any in your portfolio, maybe you should do a few singles before you do the group thing.

I was going to suggest this same thing, but I was beat to the punch.

I'd make sure that you check credentials tho - 15 photogs for 3 models?  Does it really take 5 cameras per model to get a shot?

Reby wrote:
Now Playboy is "soft porn".
I learn something new every day.

When was Playboy ever not soft porn?