Forums > Model Colloquy > Anyone ever heard of D2 Models?

Model

Jen Kendall

Posts: 1731

Los Angeles, California, US

Just wanted to know if anyone knew any info on D2 Models, it is an online agency for LA, Orlando, Vegas, Miami, and San Fran..

is anyone with them? are they a real agency?

http://models.direct2pro.com/

Sep 15 08 02:00 am Link

Model

Jen Kendall

Posts: 1731

Los Angeles, California, US

anyone?

Sep 15 08 02:20 am Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

I'd be concerned about any company whose executive director is only named "Skeets."

Sep 15 08 02:23 am Link

Model

Jen Kendall

Posts: 1731

Los Angeles, California, US

SLE Photography wrote:
I'd be concerned about any company whose executive director is only named "Skeets."

that is what i was wondering :\

Sep 15 08 02:25 am Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

All I can tell you is that they are licensed in California with offices in LA.

Sep 15 08 04:37 am Link

Model

Samantha I

Posts: 1577

London, England, United Kingdom

Google

Sep 15 08 04:39 am Link

Photographer

Jamie-JAYCE-Charles

Posts: 2207

Hollywood, Florida, US

SLE Photography wrote:
I'd be concerned about any company whose executive director is only named "Skeets."

lol that sounds funny

Sep 15 08 04:44 am Link

Model

Malin_

Posts: 3902

New York, New York, US

EDIT: I'll send you a private message about D2 instead of posting here.

Sep 15 08 05:36 am Link

Model

Vegas Sarah Ashley

Posts: 833

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I have heard of them and get castings through them all the time... never get hired  however.  If anyone has info on them, please pm me as well.

Sep 15 08 11:59 am Link

Photographer

NakeyPiX

Posts: 689

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Jen Kendall wrote:
Just wanted to know if anyone knew any info on D2 Models, it is an online agency for LA, Orlando, Vegas, Miami, and San Fran..

is anyone with them? are they a real agency?

http://models.direct2pro.com/

No license in Clark County, NV (category 529, modeling agencies)
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/business … isting.asp


No talent agency license found for D2 in Florida (which is a FELONY in that state).
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=0&SID=
http://www.filminflorida.com/ela/tma.asp


No inc. or LLC is found using the name D2 models in the California State business database (this wouldn't be required if the company is operated as a sole proprietorship, however most real agencies would probably have some sort of corporate vail for liability and tax purposes).
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/list.html

this is not looking good

Sep 15 08 12:01 pm Link

Model

Vegas Sarah Ashley

Posts: 833

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

NakeyPiX wrote:

No license in Clark County, NV (category 529, modeling agencies)
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/business … isting.asp


No talent agency license found for D2 in Florida (which is a FELONY in that state).
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=0&SID=
http://www.filminflorida.com/ela/tma.asp


this is not looking good

hmmm, that is interesting.  They get some pretty high paying jobs for conventions here as well.

Sep 15 08 12:04 pm Link

Photographer

NakeyPiX

Posts: 689

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sarah Ashley Barker wrote:
hmmm, that is interesting.  They get some pretty high paying jobs for conventions here as well.

My interest is kinda piqued right now.

In Nevada convention models are hired from agencies outside of Nevada without breaking any laws, so it's possible for D2 to 'get models' to work in Nevada.

Florida is much more strict.  NOBODY is allowed to act as a talent agent, modeling agent, or manager without obtaining the state issued license first.  It's also illegal to hire models through an unlicensed agency. 

http://www.filminflorida.com/ela/tma.asp

If D2 models is claiming that they're doing business in Florida and isn't actually licensed in that state they're either a total fraud or extremely incompetent, which may be a reflection as to how they're doing business in their home state as well.

Sep 15 08 12:22 pm Link

Model

OC Girl

Posts: 1033

Costa Mesa, California, US

I'm listed with them.  I occasionally get castings, but rarely get auditions.  I don't know if they don't get a lot, or if I don't fit the specs.  Basically, they send you a casting notice via email, you reply if you want to go, they send your info to the client, and the client chooses who they want to see.  .  Everything is industry standard pay wise.  It's a lot of tradeshows and events, as well as print.  I got one job through them, and it was for a catalog.

It's more a database than an agency, but they do take a commission.  You got nothing to lose.

Sep 15 08 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

Awesome Headshots

Posts: 2370

San Ramon, California, US

They’re small but legit. Ask Madalina. She’s been with them awhile. They contacted me a few months ago to shoot headshot comps but didn’t like my prices. So I guess I can add the word “cheap” to my knowledge of them.neutral

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080312/11/47d7f3eb0fe72_m.jpg

Sep 15 08 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

NakeyPiX

Posts: 689

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

OC Girl wrote:
I'm listed with them.  I occasionally get castings, but rarely get auditions.  I don't know if they don't get a lot, or if I don't fit the specs.  Basically, they send you a casting notice via email, you reply if you want to go, they send your info to the client, and the client chooses who they want to see.

This is another point of concern.

I'm not saying that the agency in question does the following, but it's a common thing for scammers, fakes, and undeveloped agencies to do and is something that people should be wary of in general:

'Agency' will collect casting notices from outside sources such as trade magazines, websites, classified ads, and anywhere else they can find a casting notice.  This is usually done without the knowledge or approval of the actual people involved with the casting.

The 'agency' will then distribute the casting call as if it's their own.  This makes it appear that the 'agency' is larger than it really is and/or has many opportunities available, therefore more people will be willing to sign up.

Then the model / talent is either ignored or turned down for the casting for some reason... not because the model / talent isn't really suited for the job, but because the 'agent' isn't actually authorized to be involved with the casting. 

This affects everybody in a negative way.  If a company is named in a casting, the models / talent may hold a grudge against the company and decide not to do business with them in the future (either as a client or a customer).

Similarly, the model / talent may decline offers from the actual company that's doing the casting (thinking that they're under some sort of limited or permanent exclusivity deal with the fake 'agent').

Also when a legitimate company or agent sees the model listed with a fake / unqualifed agency, they might not consider the model for future jobs. 

Many 'agents' may 'seem legit' because they eventually get someone to actually attend a casting, and possibly get hired, but the typical model / talent that are signed with such 'agents' have no idea about the percentage of real jobs that the 'agent' actually has compared to the fake ones they distribute.  So it's easy to say "they're legit" when in fact they really aren't.

Sep 15 08 02:42 pm Link

Model

Vegas Sarah Ashley

Posts: 833

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

NakeyPiX wrote:

This is another point of concern.

I'm not saying that the agency in question does the following, but it's a common thing for scammers, fakes, and undeveloped agencies to do and is something that people should be wary of in general:

'Agency' will collect casting notices from outside sources such as trade magazines, websites, classified ads, and anywhere else they can find a casting notice.  This is usually done without the knowledge or approval of the actual people involved with the casting.

The 'agency' will then distribute the casting call as if it's their own.  This makes it appear that the 'agency' is larger than it really is and/or has many opportunities available, therefore more people will be willing to sign up.

Then the model / talent is either ignored or turned down for the casting for some reason... not because the model / talent isn't really suited for the job, but because the 'agent' isn't actually authorized to be involved with the casting. 

This affects everybody in a negative way.  If a company is named in a casting, the models / talent may hold a grudge against the company and decide not to do business with them in the future (either as a client or a customer).

Similarly, the model / talent may decline offers from the actual company that's doing the casting (thinking that they're under some sort of limited or permanent exclusivity deal with the fake 'agent').

Also when a legitimate company or agent sees the model listed with a fake / unqualifed agency, they might not consider the model for future jobs. 

Many 'agents' may 'seem legit' because they eventually get someone to actually attend a casting, and possibly get hired, but the typical model / talent that are signed with such 'agents' have no idea about the percentage of real jobs that the 'agent' actually has compared to the fake ones they distribute.  So it's easy to say "they're legit" when in fact they really aren't.

hmm, interesting.  Makes sense....

Sep 15 08 03:35 pm Link

Model

Michelle Renee

Posts: 1073

Los Angeles, California, US

I do know a model that did a runway show for In Style Magazine that was booked through them. (The show was in Florida and the model is in CA.)

She got paid.

Sep 15 08 04:30 pm Link

Model

Dina Ova

Posts: 174

Washington, District of Columbia, US

they are legit

Apr 05 09 05:47 am Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

D2 Legit?  Sounds like a Rap album

Apr 05 09 09:45 am Link

Model

Model Sarah

Posts: 40745

Columbus, Ohio, US

SLE Photography wrote:
I'd be concerned about any company whose executive director is only named "Skeets."

lol

Apr 05 09 10:00 am Link

Photographer

NakeyPiX

Posts: 689

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Deena MMM wrote:
they are legit

Highly unlikely.
In addition to the stuff I posted above, their 'office' is simply a rented mailbox.


http://www.brentwoodmailbox.com/

Apr 05 09 10:04 am Link

Model

Wednesday Mourning

Posts: 284

Malmö, Skåne, Sweden

They are legit, but very small. I do get casting calls from them not found elsewhere but Iv'e yet book anything. Not surprising though given my look and age.smile 

Side Rant:
Sad we don’t have a real agency in LA for alt/strange/character types. Even sadder that Dragon changed to Lemon Lime which decided “hipster” was the way to go. *sighs*

Apr 05 09 10:15 am Link

Model

Plus model Ari

Posts: 1352

Monterey Park, California, US

I have worked with them.  I get castings from them and got hired for one.  It was for a recurring fit modeling job. I Haven't had any bad experience with them but I wouldn't use them as my only source for booking jobs the carvings aren't frequent enough.

Apr 05 09 02:13 pm Link

Model

Sophia Stardust Model

Posts: 4762

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

Never heard of them.

Apr 05 09 02:33 pm Link

Photographer

Chuck Goodenough

Posts: 544

Los Angeles, California, US

I know Skeets, he's a great guy and loaded with integrity (my experience).

Background:
I started an idea and a website in 1997-98 called stockmodels.com.
The idea was to refer models who were open to signing a full release to stock photographers who needed them.  Skeets was a model back then and he contacted me for a shoot.  We did a stock shoot together - here's something from that day: ( http://tinyurl.com/cpw9zj )

During the shoot I talked with Skeets about my idea and he was interested in helping. He had web skills and a real interest in the idea. So, we worked together on stockmodels.com in our spare time.

Long story short, I ended up partnering with Skeets and after a year or so we had a difference in opinion about the direction of the idea.  After some negotiation, I decided to step away and get back to photography while Skeets licensed the website from me.

During the last few years Skeets developed his own company and the website domain stockmodels.com came back into my possession.

I have NO connection to D2 and don't know any of the inner workings.
If you're working with D2 I would trust Skeets to treat you right.

Hope that helps some!
Chuck

Apr 25 09 07:18 am Link

Model

MichelleS

Posts: 377

Baltimore, Maryland, US

They require you to pay $199 to even get started with them.  Then they say they will not take a percentage out of any of your jobs.  But you aren't guaranteed any jobs obviously.  I'm not a big fan of this at all...

Apr 27 09 09:20 pm Link

Model

ocgirl

Posts: 673

Costa Mesa, California, US

MichelleS wrote:
They require you to pay $199 to even get started with them.  Then they say they will not take a percentage out of any of your jobs.  But you aren't guaranteed any jobs obviously.  I'm not a big fan of this at all...

No they don't.

Apr 27 09 10:40 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 29965

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

SLE Photography wrote:
I'd be concerned about any company whose executive director is only named "Skeets."

smile


Hey its probably short for

ummm ,errrr

Skeeter ?

Apr 27 09 10:45 pm Link

Model

Gotherella BioVenom

Posts: 145

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

I had a myspace add from them...
They didnt look legit so I declined it.

Apr 28 09 02:17 am Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Deena MMM wrote:
they are legit

Why would you bump an 8 month old thread to add this comment?

Apr 28 09 02:28 am Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

MartPhoto wrote:
I know Skeets, he's a great guy and loaded with integrity (my experience).

Great.  Why won't he use his real name?

Apr 28 09 02:28 am Link

Model

Malin_

Posts: 3902

New York, New York, US

D2 is a good agency for finding work that will keep you alive when "real" bookings are slow. I have done fit, trade shows and make up seminars with them. The pay is usually very good, the checks arrive on time and in case of problems with the clients (I was once sent home from an event because the didn't "like me as a person"... flattering) they completely side with you and make sure you get paid anyway.

All you people who claim they charge fees, you have no idea what you're talking about. I have been working with them from the start and never paid them a cent.

Apr 28 09 06:14 am Link

Photographer

J C ModeFotografie

Posts: 14718

Los Angeles, California, US

MichelleS wrote:
They require you to pay $199 to even get started with them.  Then they say they will not take a percentage out of any of your jobs.  But you aren't guaranteed any jobs obviously.  I'm not a big fan of this at all...

ocgirl wrote:
No they don't.

Please elaborate.

Apr 28 09 06:40 am Link

Model

AD

Posts: 4259

New York, New York, US

i am listed on there, i get job offers alot just can never do them. never had to pay anything to them, many girls i know do conventions with them.

Apr 28 09 06:48 am Link

Photographer

Kat Torgashev

Posts: 1332

Jen Kendall wrote:
Just wanted to know if anyone knew any info on D2 Models, it is an online agency for LA, Orlando, Vegas, Miami, and San Fran..

is anyone with them? are they a real agency?

http://models.direct2pro.com/

R2D2? smile

Apr 28 09 07:03 am Link

Model

ocgirl

Posts: 673

Costa Mesa, California, US

J C ModeFotografie wrote:

MichelleS wrote:
They require you to pay $199 to even get started with them.  Then they say they will not take a percentage out of any of your jobs.  But you aren't guaranteed any jobs obviously.  I'm not a big fan of this at all...

Please elaborate.

Me or her? 

If me, you don't pay them anything to be listed.  You can buy compcards with their info if you want, but they also have labels you can download.  They take 20% when you book; same as any agency.  Maybe Michelle thinks we're talking about someone else.

Apr 28 09 10:38 am Link

Model

SFP

Posts: 258

Anaconda, Montana, US

Well, D2 models accepted me today. I know agencies like Ford, SMG are for sure well known, but the question is, will you be one of the lucky ones to get accepted by them? They have a particular look in mind and if you don't have what they think is marketable, no golden ticket unfortunately sad.

The fact that D2 models don't accept initial fees, you can have your pictures online for clients to see for free and all they expect is a 20% commission fee from each of your job bookings through them, what have you got to lose?

I live in Montana, not in L.A. or New York, so I don't have many options as a model.

Aug 13 09 11:50 pm Link

Model

Dominique Jackson

Posts: 1116

BRONX, New York, US

I get their emails too BUT no booked work yet.

Aug 14 09 06:57 am Link

Model

Rhiannon Davis

Posts: 945

Denton, Texas, US

K E S L E R wrote:
D2 Legit?  Sounds like a Rap album

Word.

Aug 14 09 09:25 am Link

Model

Seth Mitchell

Posts: 1457

Long Beach, California, US

Looks like I am bumping an old thread here, but yes they are legit and yes they are small.

I have gotten some work through them (but not much) and I did get paid.

Aug 14 09 11:17 am Link