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Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 6586

Elkton, Maryland, US

Why so many MM male models imitate female model poses?  I often see these feminine poses in male models on here but never on the billboard or mag.  The female poses looks sexy and inviting, but often they do not translate well into male counterpart.  In fact, it looks ridiculous in male model.  For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.  It gives me a chill up my spine. 

Is this is the way of the future, or just the newbies have not idea how to pose in general, lol   wink

Oct 03 08 05:32 pm Link

Photographer

Photons 2 Pixels Images

Posts: 16997

Berwick, Pennsylvania, US

Connor Photography wrote:
Why so many MM male models imitate female model poses?  I often see these feminine poses in male models on here but never on the billboard or mag.  The female poses looks sexy and inviting, but often they do not translate well into male counterpart.  In fact, it looks ridiculous in male model.  For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.  It gives me a chill up my spine. 

Is this is the way of the future, or just the newbies have not idea how to pose in general, lol   wink

I agree with you here. Women should be curvy, men should be angular. It works for the body types better that way.

Oct 03 08 05:37 pm Link

Photographer

Imagebuffet

Posts: 15842

Richardson, Texas, US

1) Maybe it's all they know. The challenge for me is that I don't look at male models; only female models.

2) The fashion industry in general tries to feminize men. Always has.

Oct 03 08 05:50 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Victor Lotus

Posts: 46

Los Angeles, California, US

Connor Photography wrote:

In fact, it looks ridiculous in male model.  For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.

http://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080105/05/477f56b9df6c8.jpg

What's wrong with that?  I think it's HOT!!!

Oct 05 08 04:33 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Victor Lotus

Posts: 46

Los Angeles, California, US

Imagebuffet wrote:

The fashion industry in general tries to feminize men. Always has.

Now this is different:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/113113.jpg

I think Brad Pitt looks better shirtless or in menswear.

Oct 05 08 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

Connor Photography wrote:
Why so many MM male models imitate female model poses?  I often see these feminine poses in male models on here but never on the billboard or mag.  The female poses looks sexy and inviting, but often they do not translate well into male counterpart.  In fact, it looks ridiculous in male model.  For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.  It gives me a chill up my spine. 

Is this is the way of the future, or just the newbies have not idea how to pose in general, lol   wink

There are no males in your portfolio.

Please show us an example of how you think it should be done. wink

Oct 05 08 05:39 pm Link

Photographer

Shon D.- Femme

Posts: 24388

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Connor Photography wrote:
Why so many MM male models imitate female model poses?  I often see these feminine poses in male models on here but never on the billboard or mag.  The female poses looks sexy and inviting, but often they do not translate well into male counterpart.  In fact, it looks ridiculous in male model.  For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.  It gives me a chill up my spine. 

Is this is the way of the future, or just the newbies have not idea how to pose in general, lol   wink

I often see feminine looking poses in Euro fashion magazines...

Oct 05 08 05:40 pm Link

Model

Janice Marie Foote

Posts: 11483

http://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080823/17/48b07fd2a50a5.jpg
I think Bob Worthy http://www.modelmayhem.com/28901 captures male models
in wonderful settings and poses with a great sense of composition!!!

Oct 05 08 05:41 pm Link

Model

-Jen-

Posts: 46835

Howell, Michigan, US

Victor Lotus wrote:
Connor Photography wrote:


http://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080105/05/477f56b9df6c8.jpg

What's wrong with that?  I think it's HOT!!!

OMFG, he is positively yummy.

Oct 05 08 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

Shon D Photography wrote:

I often see feminine looking poses in Euro fashion magazines...

Euro fashion includes buffalo plaid? yikes

Oct 05 08 05:42 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

-Jen- wrote:
OMFG, he is positively yummy.

*sings*
"Move, bitch, get out da way. Get out da way, bitch, get out da way!

Mine Mine Mine! borat

Oct 05 08 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Holyer

Posts: 2000

I don't agree with the OP's original premise.

Oct 05 08 05:50 pm Link

Photographer

Fphotoworks

Posts: 374

London, England, United Kingdom

I don't agree either

"For example, pulling down their brief in an angle looks awful to me.  It gives me a chill up my spine.  "

This is done to accentuate the models muscles if he has any!  smile

FW

Oct 05 08 06:04 pm Link

Photographer

Alvah Burlas B A P

Posts: 411

Victorville, California, US

I think you girls are funny

Oct 05 08 06:04 pm Link

Model

-Jen-

Posts: 46835

Howell, Michigan, US

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:

*sings*
"Move, bitch, get out da way. Get out da way, bitch, get out da way!

Mine Mine Mine! borat

lol

I'll wrestle you for him.

tongue

Oct 05 08 06:05 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Bowen

Posts: 483

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

-Jen- wrote:
lol

I'll wrestle you for him.

tongue

Ooooooh... bitch fight, bitch fight...!

[gets popcorn]

lol

Oct 05 08 06:44 pm Link

Photographer

Cordial Lee Photo

Posts: 981

Houston, Texas, US

Christopher Bowen wrote:

Ooooooh... bitch fight, bitch fight...!

[gets popcorn]

lol

OOOoo! Fight!?!?! *Grabs a chair and gummy bears and sits with* Haha

Oct 05 08 06:48 pm Link

Photographer

Ryan Colford Studios

Posts: 2286

Brooklyn, New York, US

Yeah I don't agree with the OP premise either. Really when you think about it, there's no such thing as feminine or masculine poses but rather poses done by men or women.

Ultimately it depends on the model, photographer and environment that tells whether or not a particular pose is pulled off successfully in an image.

Oct 05 08 06:51 pm Link

Photographer

Shon D.- Femme

Posts: 24388

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:

*sings*
"Move, bitch, get out da way. Get out da way, bitch, get out da way!

Mine Mine Mine! borat

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/GiftFromVirgo/moobitch.jpg

Oct 05 08 07:22 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

Shon D Photography wrote:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/GiftFromVirgo/moobitch.jpg

lol

Oct 05 08 07:30 pm Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 6586

Elkton, Maryland, US

Victor Lotus wrote:
Connor Photography wrote:


http://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080105/05/477f56b9df6c8.jpg

What's wrong with that?  I think it's HOT!!!

-Jen- wrote:
OMFG, he is positively yummy.

We have fundamentally different needs.  The pose does nothing to me.  I guess I am an ordinary man who views another man differently than you.  You treat a man like a sex object, and I don't big_smile    I stick with shooting the females forever and ever.  wink

Oct 05 08 07:41 pm Link

Photographer

YAPHOTO

Posts: 2126

Paramus, New Jersey, US

I shot these and i think he looks pretty manly

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/13/48e267c476618_m.jpg
http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081005/16/48e924faa3352_m.jpg


Then i shot this one, but this one maybe isnt very manly lol

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/14/48e26a3fab661_m.jpg

I think its his facial expression...

These two are pretty manly but could work for a girl too...

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081005/14/48e907701dd76_m.jpg
http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/14/48e269aeafee9_m.jpg


But in the end it really is about what you consider manly.  The guy who is wet in the shower, the girls that saw that picture thought he was really hot and manly, when i look at the picture, it looks feminine to me but i dont mind that.

Oct 05 08 08:35 pm Link

Photographer

Ryan Colford Studios

Posts: 2286

Brooklyn, New York, US

I've been shooting the men's divisions for a number of agencies and editorials and I think it all really depends on what you're trying to convey within an image and of course your whole thoughts on masculinity too. Really it's a very gray area and totally subjective.

Oct 05 08 08:38 pm Link

Model

Gypsy Logan

Posts: 5083

King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, US

This made me laugh because back in the spring, I did a lot of shoots with a male model. It got to one shoot where we were modeling swimwear that I realized he was imitating quite a few of my poses.

Of course, I called him out on it, so he stopped doing it. lol

But in this case, I think it was because I was getting more positive feedback from the photographer, so he wanted to try it.

Oct 05 08 08:55 pm Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 6586

Elkton, Maryland, US

Yajhil A Photography wrote:
I shot these and i think he looks pretty manly

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/13/48e267c476618_m.jpg
http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081005/16/48e924faa3352_m.jpg


Then i shot this one, but this one maybe isnt very manly lol

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/14/48e26a3fab661_m.jpg

I think its his facial expression...

These two are pretty manly but could work for a girl too...

http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081005/14/48e907701dd76_m.jpg
http://modelmayhm-7.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/14/48e269aeafee9_m.jpg


But in the end it really is about what you consider manly.  The guy who is wet in the shower, the girls that saw that picture thought he was really hot and manly, when i look at the picture, it looks feminine to me but i dont mind that.

I like your shots, they are manly looking to me except may the shower scene. A few years ago I took a workshop, they talked about the poses between male and female in portrait sittings.  I was told that never have your male client do a forward lean pose.  Female tends to do better in forward lean pose but backward lean is OK too.

Oct 05 08 09:29 pm Link

Photographer

Ronald N. Tan

Posts: 2746

Los Angeles, California, US

Mens fashion and beauty is my specialty, perhaps you should drop by my folio to see how I shoot my male models.

Best in health,

ronald n. tan
www.ronaldntan.com

Oct 05 08 09:32 pm Link

Photographer

YAPHOTO

Posts: 2126

Paramus, New Jersey, US

Yeah the shower guy pic is a bit fem i totally agree, also the way his head is leaning on his shoulder, thats what i was trying to show him by posting those up.  How one simple thing a model does can turn the picture from one thing to another.  The other pics are manly, that one isnt.

Oct 05 08 09:37 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

-Jen- wrote:
OMFG, he is positively yummy.

Connor Photography wrote:
You treat a man like a sex object, and I don't big_smile    I stick with shooting the females forever and ever.  wink

I hope you know how that sounds. wink

Oct 05 08 09:40 pm Link

Photographer

RhapsodyPhotos

Posts: 330

Bernalillo, New Mexico, US

Connor Photography wrote:
We have fundamentally different needs.  The pose does nothing to me.  I guess I am an ordinary man who views another man differently than you.  You treat a man like a sex object, and I don't big_smile    I stick with shooting the females forever and ever.  wink

This is probably part of the problem then - you only see women as sexy because you are a straight man. This is fine, but a pose that looks feminine to you, probably looks really sexy to other women. With the exception of that weird Brad Pitt picture above (LOL) I haven't seen any truly feminine poses in this thread.

Oct 05 08 09:42 pm Link

Model

-Jen-

Posts: 46835

Howell, Michigan, US

Connor Photography wrote:

Victor Lotus wrote:
Connor Photography wrote:


http://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080105/05/477f56b9df6c8.jpg

What's wrong with that?  I think it's HOT!!!

We have fundamentally different needs.  The pose does nothing to me.  I guess I am an ordinary man who views another man differently than you.  You treat a man like a sex object, and I don't big_smile    I stick with shooting the females forever and ever.  wink

You treat women as sex objects then?  tongue

The male form is beautiful to me, as is the female form.

Oct 05 08 09:43 pm Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48035

Hollywood, Florida, US

-Jen- wrote:
You treat women as sex objects then?  tongue

That's basically what I told him.

Who really cares, though? Being "objectified" is fun. big_smile

Oct 05 08 09:50 pm Link

Photographer

Dimensions Photography

Posts: 124

Washington, Arkansas, US

One wonders why they don't rock with their cock out?

We photograph women nude. Why not men? I'm straight so I don't want to see a man's photo at all, clothed or not.

For whatever reason men are being photographed, one assumes the viewer wants the entire gentleman depicted, just as the women are depicted.

Just a thought, it seemed a unique thread.

Oct 05 08 10:22 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Victor Lotus

Posts: 46

Los Angeles, California, US

Talk about ROCK, the whole 70's and 80's rock scene is about men wearing long hair, women's pants, or even make-up.  And most of them are straight men.

Different strokes for different folks.  I personally don't like skinny men with long hair.  But I respect artistic expressions from all.  There is room for everybody when it comes to art.  No need to stereotype people and tell them how they should look, act, or pose in order to meet mainstream expectations.

http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/1/1257/images/23046_lg.jpg

In ancient Greece, men were on center stage.  Men only in fact, for even women roles on stage were played by men.  The naked male form was appreciated and celebrated for thousands of years.

Showing off the female body started much later, and is in fact illegal in certain cultures to this day.  So enjoy your artistic expressions, may it be with male or female models.

Oct 06 08 02:36 am Link

Photographer

Ray Holyer

Posts: 2000

Dimensions Photography wrote:
One wonders why they don't rock with their cock out?

We photograph women nude. Why not men? I'm straight so I don't want to see a man's photo at all, clothed or not.

For whatever reason men are being photographed, one assumes the viewer wants the entire gentleman depicted, just as the women are depicted.

Just a thought, it seemed a unique thread.

Do you never see any image of a man as artistic, does every image have to have sexual connotations for you?

Oct 06 08 02:43 am Link

Model

Jessie-Lynne

Posts: 1857

Chicago, Illinois, US

Shon D Photography wrote:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/GiftFromVirgo/moobitch.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oct 06 08 02:46 am Link

Model

Trica Padilla

Posts: 257

New York, New York, US

ohh wow turning into to the sexiest men on MM

Oct 06 08 02:50 am Link

Clothing Designer

nothing

Posts: 9229

Okinawa, Okinawa, Japan

Victor Lotus wrote:
Imagebuffet wrote:


Now this is different:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/113113.jpg

I think Brad Pitt looks better shirtless or in menswear.

who ever that photographer is get WINNAR for a month!

Oct 06 08 02:55 am Link

Clothing Designer

nothing

Posts: 9229

Okinawa, Okinawa, Japan

Connor Photography wrote:

We have fundamentally different needs.  The pose does nothing to me.  I guess I am an ordinary man who views another man differently than you.  You treat a man like a sex object, and I don't big_smile    I stick with shooting the females forever and ever.  wink

Women shop. Women buy for themselves, other women, men, kids, old people and babies. Most women would look at that picture and go buy piles and piles of RL underwear to gift or to make their men wear or in Jen's case to rub all over themselves while thinking naughty thoughts.

Your opinion counts for a total of zilch, nada, nothing, crap, doodoo, poop, squat, the stuff in between matter in space, the junk between your toes, underwear streaks, running out of analogies without a Thesaurus.....


get the point? consumer demand, if your opinion disagrees with it then no one cares.

Oct 06 08 03:00 am Link

Model

Blakwiz

Posts: 1

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Ronald N. Tan wrote:
Mens fashion and beauty is my specialty, perhaps you should drop by my folio to see how I shoot my male models.

Best in health,

ronald n. tan
www.ronaldntan.com

Yah, but I noticed a lot of your publications are in magazines for gay audiences.  Now I know it's the stereotype that the average gay man is far more into fashion than the straight counterpart.  But would your portfolio make one wonder if your models' poses are more feminine than masculine?

Nov 06 08 12:20 pm Link

Model

Daniel A Betts

Posts: 88

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Okay...my take on this thread is about male models mimicking female-model poses and expressions. Personally, I think this has a LOT to do with strength of personality in said-model (male). In MY humble opinion, I've learnt that the feelings and emotions conveyed in the shots are based on what the model brings to the shot. Let me show you exactly what I mean...

Glamour-shoots:
http://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100502/08/4bdd9cd41f91d_m.jpghttp://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100831/13/4c7d683b3fb4e_m.jpg

Fashion-shoots:
http://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100921/17/4c994879485a6_m.jpghttp://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100804/19/4c5a23044bd38_m.jpg

The first in both are obviously not meant to convey sensuality in any way, regardless of the nature of the shoots. The second in each conversely is intended to evoke arousal, and it has been reported to me by many of both gender that they have succeeded in doing just that. Whether the male model looks masculine or more effeminate/softer in the shots is really all a matter of the mood that he and the photographer were aiming for when taking the shot. Unless of course the male model is weak and lacks versatility. Male models DO have difficulty varying their expressions! There are MANY that we cannot do, as they simply look 'wrong' hmm

Oct 30 10 03:34 pm Link