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Photographer

Jeremy I

Posts: 2201

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

Mar 02 10 05:33 pm Link

Photographer

A M Johnson

Posts: 8024

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes.

Mar 02 10 05:35 pm Link

Photographer

MLRPhoto

Posts: 5754

Olivet, Michigan, US

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

If I notice at the time, probably delete, or leave and see if I can photoshop.

I have all sorts of pictures that are being held for later, or only used if cropped, or whatever.  I consider it a matter of professional honor to keep my word.

And, I have no intention of using accidental "nip slips."  Even if we've done nudes in the same session.

Mar 02 10 05:36 pm Link

Photographer

Jeremy I

Posts: 2201

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

A M Johnson wrote:
I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes.

As do I. Sometimes I will allow the model to sit and chimp with me to be sure no nipps are making their introduction.

Mar 02 10 05:36 pm Link

Photographer

7101

Posts: 1269

Columbia, South Carolina, US

A M Johnson wrote:
I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips.

+1

Mar 02 10 05:37 pm Link

Photographer

DaveDavis

Posts: 12161

Roseville, California, US

A M Johnson wrote:
I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes.

+1   Too many models are ready to pose nude to worry about a few slips - from those that don't pose nude... 

Dave
http://davedavisphotography.com/

Mar 02 10 05:38 pm Link

Photographer

Simon Gerzina

Posts: 2288

Brooklyn, New York, US

Nipple slips (and worse) are just par for the course with fashion.  If they're totally unintentional and inappropriate I flag them as rejects, so they don't show up in proofs that go to my team or the model's agency, and they eventually get deleted when the images get moved off my edit machine and into RAID storage.  I don't delete anything until that point.

Mar 02 10 05:38 pm Link

Photographer

S de Varax

Posts: 7313

Dubai, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

I delete them, either while reviewing during the shoot, or after if I find them during processing.
My assistant usually let me know if it's happening anyway so we'll stop and the model can adjust clothing.

Mar 02 10 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Steven Seehafer

Posts: 30

Davie, Florida, US

A M Johnson wrote:
I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips with the other mistakes.

+1

Mar 02 10 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

BTHPhoto

Posts: 6840

Fairbanks, Alaska, US

I generally archive all shots from every shoot, but if there is any accidental nudity beyond what the model agreed to then I point it out to the model, tell her if I think the image is a keeper or would just sit in a DVD in my safe, and ask what her preference is.  I've deleted a few fantastic shots because of that, but I've also had models who "don't do nudes" decide that I was trustworthy enough to do nude work with because of it.  Treating people with courtesy and respect almost always pays off better than hiding things from them.  Model photography is no exception.

Mar 02 10 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

Lumigraphics

Posts: 32751

Detroit, Michigan, US

I don't delete anything except flash misfires and closed eyes, but I don't use slips either. Whatever the agreement is with the model is what I abide by. if we did nudes and a nipple pops out, its not going to be a big deal either way.

This shot is actually a nip slip but we did full nudes so it didn't matter, and the model has it in her port.

http://www.lumigraphics.com/models/imag … eth_II.jpg 18+

Mar 02 10 06:14 pm Link

Photographer

Laura Ann Nudes

Posts: 3844

Peoria, Illinois, US

I delete them as soon as I spot them.  Whether that's in camera, or when I'm editing.

(unless the model does nudes, and is okay with the nip slip)

Mar 02 10 06:18 pm Link

Photographer

John Jebbia

Posts: 27852

Phoenix, Arizona, US

While I understand that there is a certain feeling of conquest to get models who don't shoot nude to shoot implied....

Book models who already do nudes when you want to shoot implieds and this suddenly becomes a non issue.

Mar 02 10 06:20 pm Link

Photographer

CLT

Posts: 12979

Winchester, Virginia, US

I delete 80% of all the pictures I take, based on strength of the photo. Nip slip may be a component of it, but not a deciding factor.

Mar 02 10 06:21 pm Link

Photographer

dave wright phx

Posts: 13509

Phoenix, Arizona, US

i wouldn't delete them from the back of the camera - what if the shot is great, and it just needs a bit of retouching so the nip doesn't show?

Mar 02 10 06:22 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Reese Photography

Posts: 21622

Brandon, Florida, US

dave wright sf wrote:
i wouldn't delete them from the back of the camera - what if the shot is great, and it just needs a bit of retouching so the nip doesn't show?

This....

Mar 02 10 06:23 pm Link

Photographer

AMCphotography2

Posts: 475

Los Angeles, California, US

MikeRobisonPhotos wrote:

If I notice at the time, probably delete, or leave and see if I can photoshop.

I have all sorts of pictures that are being held for later, or only used if cropped, or whatever.  I consider it a matter of professional honor to keep my word.

And, I have no intention of using accidental "nip slips."  Even if we've done nudes in the same session.

+1

Mar 02 10 06:24 pm Link

Photographer

Laura Ann Nudes

Posts: 3844

Peoria, Illinois, US

dave wright sf wrote:
i wouldn't delete them from the back of the camera - what if the shot is great, and it just needs a bit of retouching so the nip doesn't show?

If it's so blatant that I see it while chimping, the shot isn't usable for me.

Minor slips I can and will fix, but I won't notice that on the back of the camera.

Mar 02 10 06:24 pm Link

Photographer

MisterC

Posts: 15162

Portland, Oregon, US

Gosh, do I have to tell. I generally delete them.

Eventually. But not in-camera.

Mar 02 10 06:24 pm Link

Model

Abby Hawkins

Posts: 2004

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I remember doing a shoot in a corset once.  The corset was a little loose up top, so in certain poses, certain bits would show.  I saw the shots afterward and was devastated that the photographer used one of the nip slip ones for her port.  She removed it when I brought it to her attention, but it broke my heart a bit because I didn't sign up for anything resembling topless (furthermore, I'm a preschool teacher/nanny, so "topless" images like that can really have a negative impact on my career).

Mar 02 10 06:30 pm Link

Photographer

Greg Knapp

Posts: 260

Hollywood, Florida, US

If its a usable shot - I talk with the model, sit and show them the shot and do whatever the model wants (which is usually photoshop out the slip and use the shot)

if the shot is not usable ..  trash

Mar 02 10 06:33 pm Link

Photographer

Travis Sackett

Posts: 1613

Los Angeles, California, US

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Mar 02 10 06:39 pm Link

Photographer

Henry Westheim

Posts: 650

Taichung City, Taichung City, Taiwan

Usually, they get deleted.  However, if it's a great photo and post-production can cover up the slip then I'd consider keeping it.  Also, for slips, I often share them with the model before deleting (it the photo is a good one).  Fair is fair and if a model isn't comfortable then that can potentially bite me in the @ss in the future.

Mar 02 10 06:40 pm Link

Photographer

BlackArts - Jenna Black

Posts: 4100

Riverside, California, US

I save everything. I have images archived that are pure black because strobes didn't fire. I have no question that I'll never use or want these files, but I don't prune my raw files before I save them. If the image is otherwise super awesome, I rescue it with photoshop. If there's another equally good frame without a nip slip, I obviously opt for that one. Or if the pose/expression isn't *that* good I'll skip it.

Mar 02 10 06:46 pm Link

Photographer

JA Sanchez

Posts: 6830

Miami, Florida, US

John Jebbia wrote:
While I understand that there is a certain feeling of conquest to get models who don't shoot nude to shoot implied....

Book models who already do nudes when you want to shoot implieds and this suddenly becomes a non issue.

Agreed. I don't want to shoot anything revealing with someone that is paranoid about something 'slipping'.

Mar 02 10 06:49 pm Link

Photographer

Jim Chernesky

Posts: 25

Oxford, Connecticut, US

I usually share images with the model as we shoot always with the option of deleting anything she doesnt like, even if its just the way she smiles. I have been surprised at some images that I tough because of a slip would be deleted

Mar 02 10 06:51 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4624

Burbank, California, US

I don't always delete them because maybe I can fix the slip with some PS if the rest of the shot rocks. But one thing is for sure, I never post any alternate slip shots in my portfolio. I've seen cool shots in the model's portfolio.. I see the photographer's link on the photo and check out the photographer's page.. and they have version of the shot with a nip in it. I don't post anything the model and I didn't agree on before the shoot. If they seemed particularly concerned about it.. I may not even tell them if there was a slip because they might unnecessarily worry that the shot would get out. And if the slip ever did see the light of day, it could only be traced back to me. Integrity and honoring your agreement with the model is everything otherwise you wind up with someone bad mouthing you.. it's so not worth it.

Mar 02 10 06:57 pm Link

Photographer

Scott Sullivan Photo

Posts: 1175

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

I usually show it to the model, and let her decide.

Mar 02 10 07:31 pm Link

Photographer

Keith A Williams

Posts: 1740

Vanceboro, North Carolina, US

A M Johnson wrote:
"I play fair. If the model is not doing a shoot where bits are showing then I delete the slips."

Indeed.  A lot of the models I work with are new to concept, so why create trust issues?

KAW.

Mar 02 10 07:32 pm Link

Body Painter

Roustan

Posts: 1084

Redondo Beach, California, US

If I delete those pics, I'd have little to show. On the other hand, I probably wouldn't delete any clothing slips.

Mar 02 10 07:35 pm Link

Model

Beccalette Synthetic

Posts: 7224

Sault Ste Marie, Ontario, Canada

I have one in my port.... didn't mean for it to show, but oh well.

Mar 02 10 07:38 pm Link

Photographer

Luminos

Posts: 6057

Columbia, Maryland, US

John Jebbia wrote:
While I understand that there is a certain feeling of conquest to get models who don't shoot nude to shoot implied....

Book models who already do nudes when you want to shoot implieds and this suddenly becomes a non issue.

+1

If there is anything about the shoot that might get exposed, or leave a model who doesn't do nudes uncomfortable - then shoot it with a model who does nudes.   They won't show the problems about worrying about something showing.

I've never understood the conquest thing, myself.   But, then, I've never shared the motivations behind rape - either.   I like willing and eager participants.

Mar 02 10 07:39 pm Link

Photographer

American Glamour

Posts: 38255

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

Becca Synthetic wrote:
I have one in my port.... didn't mean for it to show, but oh well.

Except you do nudes.

Mar 02 10 07:49 pm Link

Photographer

JR in Texas

Posts: 317

Tulia, Texas, US

I promise the models that if it's not supposed to show no one will ever see it. Depending on the quality of the photo I'll either delete, retouch or (on some rare occasions) go back to the model and ask for permission to show it.

There is at least one in my current picture set that has been fixed.

Mar 02 10 07:50 pm Link

Photographer

Craig C Photography

Posts: 222

San Jose, California, US

Lumigraphics wrote:
I don't delete anything except flash misfires and closed eyes, but I don't use slips either. Whatever the agreement is with the model is what I abide by. if we did nudes and a nipple pops out, its not going to be a big deal either way.

This is what I do as well.

Mar 02 10 07:54 pm Link

Photographer

215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

I actually have one in my portfolio, here. Neither the model, nor I noticed it for almost a year after it was shot, and this was one of the first images I gave her from this shoot. When she pointed it out to me, she laughed and told me, "I can't believe my parents have a picture with one of my nipples in it hanging on their wall!"

I apologized, and told her I'd be happy to fix it in PS, and reprint it for her, but she wasn't concerned about it, at all. She said it was her "first nudie picture."

This is it:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/061222/18/458c6bae6a105_m.jpg

Mar 02 10 07:54 pm Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

John Jebbia wrote:
While I understand that there is a certain feeling of conquest to get models who don't shoot nude to shoot implied....

Book models who already do nudes when you want to shoot implieds and this suddenly becomes a non issue.

Simple answer - the rest is just talk.

Mar 02 10 07:55 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11939

Olivet, Michigan, US

John Jebbia wrote:
While I understand that there is a certain feeling of conquest to get models who don't shoot nude to shoot implied....

Book models who already do nudes when you want to shoot implieds and this suddenly becomes a non issue.

I have a certain feeling of pride when a model who has never done nudes is comfortable enough with me and my work to choose me for that step.  It has nothing to do with "conquest." 

And, I've had "nip slip's" happen in shoots where there was no nudity, full or implied" in the shoot. 

Finally, the fact that there was nudity in one part of the shoot doesn't mean that a "nip slip" is productive in another part of the shoot.

This shot would have been worse off with a nip slip, but I'm quite sure that SHE wouldn't have cared about it showing.
http://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091018/09/4adb403771c2f_m.jpg

Same model, same location, about 2 minutes later (18+)
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/16170099

It's about treating the model right first, and getting the shot as a close second.  I believe that treating the models right is going to get me a lot more great shots over time than anything I might "get away with."

Mar 02 10 11:27 pm Link

Photographer

Joey

Posts: 455

Orange, California, US

Post hidden on Mar 02, 2010 11:47 pm
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Mar 02 10 11:30 pm Link

Photographer

Carlos Occidental

Posts: 10558

Glendora, California, US

Jeremy I wrote:
You know you all have taken then or have had them taken, usually accidentally.

Do you delete them? Keep them archived with the rest?

Inquiring minds and all...

This seems an exceedingly strange question.  Any photographer who says he didn't see it in the viewfinder is a bold faced liar.  Period.

Mar 02 10 11:31 pm Link