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Model

Winnie L

Posts: 5867

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.

1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.

2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an unexpected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.

3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.

4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.

5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.

6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.

7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.

8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).

9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.

10)Thank you for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.

11)Thank you for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.

12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.

13) Thank you for for having to be the bad guy and reject us because our look don't fit your project, your concept, but deep inside your heart you can't find the heart to tell us that outrightly because we are so earnest when we respond to your casting or when we message you. You try to act like a jerk, but you feel uneasy about it. It's okay. we understand wink

I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. big_smile

Jul 10 10 12:04 am Link

Photographer

SB Glamour Photos

Posts: 712

Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia

I think i love you

Jul 10 10 12:07 am Link

Photographer

Stephanie M - Photo

Posts: 1258

Camden, Maine, US

edit: wrong account.

Jul 10 10 12:07 am Link

Photographer

Run of the Mill

Posts: 334

Seattle, Washington, US

You're welcome for #4. I say that because just tonight, less than 12 hours before the shoot, the model sprung on me, "Oh, by the way, I'm bringing an escort. If not, no shoot."

So now I have the whole day free tomorrow. No shoot.

I appreciate that YOU appreciate the frustration wink

Jul 10 10 12:07 am Link

Model

Miss SM

Posts: 1725

South Portland, Maine, US

Thank you photographers for forever immortalizing my youth, so that I will always be able to look back on how I am now.

Jul 10 10 12:08 am Link

Photographer

Ronnie Weber

Posts: 268

Palm Harbor, Florida, US

Thank you!

Jul 10 10 12:09 am Link

Photographer

Photos By Deej

Posts: 1508

Lawndale, California, US

Steve Broadbent wrote:
I think i love you

Ditto! Im gonna cry. That reaally means a lot

Jul 10 10 12:12 am Link

Photographer

mwaka photography

Posts: 179

Rapid City, South Dakota, US

wow that was a great post. sounds like alot of the stuff i have been doing and i do it all for free because im new to this smile

Jul 10 10 12:12 am Link

Photographer

Photos By Deej

Posts: 1508

Lawndale, California, US

Run of the Mill wrote:
You're welcome for #4. I say that because just tonight, less than 12 hours before the shoot, the model sprung on me, "Oh, by the way, I'm bringing an escort. If not, no shoot."

So now I have the whole day free tomorrow. No shoot.

I appreciate that YOU appreciate the frustration wink

Oh that happened tome recently except the model was on the way when he told me. What do do then?

Jul 10 10 12:13 am Link

Photographer

Rick OBanion Photo

Posts: 1351

Saint Catharines-Niagara, Ontario, Canada

As a brand new photographer who spends half his time here looking in awe at work that I will likely never compete with....thank you!!
It is incredibly intimidating being around so much talent and seeing how far I have to go yet.
Nice to read a post like this smile
I will be in the water shooting next  week praying like heck I don't drop anything or any of my flash stands tip...

Jul 10 10 12:19 am Link

Model

Winnie L

Posts: 5867

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

big_smile

Please do not turn this into an escort thread if you don't mind.

Jul 10 10 12:20 am Link

Photographer

Love the Arts

Posts: 749

Chicago, Illinois, US

Much Love to you my friend. This is sweet!

But, it’s truly a pleasure and worth the time and expense when collaborations go very right and you get to create some memorable work. Especially, when the work can transform someone’s life for the better.

Jul 10 10 12:20 am Link

Photographer

H B P

Posts: 3583

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Jul 10 10 12:22 am Link

Model

Winnie L

Posts: 5867

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

H B P wrote:

Jul 10 10 12:29 am Link

Photographer

MLRPhoto

Posts: 5753

Olivet, Michigan, US

Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.

1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.

2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an expected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.

3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.

4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.

5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.

6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.

7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.

8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).

9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.

10)Thanks for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.

11)Thanks for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.

12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.

I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. big_smile

Thank you.

I had the pleasure of reading a public message from a model I worked with saying nice things about me.  It really does mean a lot.

Jul 10 10 12:32 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Ward

Posts: 148

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

Your timing is perfect!

Jul 10 10 12:33 am Link

Photographer

Jeff Cohn

Posts: 3837

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Thank you as well smile

Jul 10 10 12:34 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 28013

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Thank you Winnie!!

Jul 10 10 12:34 am Link

Model

Winnie L

Posts: 5867

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

Stephanie M wrote:
Thank you photographers for forever immortalizing my youth, so that I will always be able to look back on how I am now.

Good one big_smile

Jul 10 10 12:35 am Link

Photographer

True Colours Photograph

Posts: 203

Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

Rick OBanion wrote:
As a brand new photographer who spends half his time here looking in awe at work that I will likely never compete with....than you!!
It is incredibly intimidating being around so much talent and seeing how far I have to go yet.
Nice to read a post like this smile

+1

And God bless all those beautiful souls who agree to work with photographers still on their 'L' plates.

Jul 10 10 12:39 am Link

Photographer

antapix

Posts: 4

Hayward, California, US

Thank you! Much appreciated!

Jul 10 10 12:39 am Link

Photographer

Pure Visions Photograph

Posts: 1507

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

That was fantastic to read Winnie, so thank YOU for appreciating us. After all, we wouldn't be able to do it without fantastic models to photograph either.

Jul 10 10 12:40 am Link

Photographer

alessandro2009

Posts: 7545

Florence, Toscana, Italy

Steve Broadbent wrote:
I think i love you

+1

Jul 10 10 12:54 am Link

Model

Winnie L

Posts: 5867

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

Rick OBanion wrote:
As a brand new photographer who spends half his time here looking in awe at work that I will likely never compete with....than you!!
It is incredibly intimidating being around so much talent and seeing how far I have to go yet.
Nice to read a post like this smile
I will be in the water shooting next  week praying like heck I don't drop anything or any of my flash stands tip...

You won't. You just need confidence smile

Jul 10 10 01:22 am Link

Photographer

AJP Photography

Posts: 1074

Chicago, Illinois, US

Winnie you are really making it hard for me not to go buy that plane ticket to Singapore!

Jul 10 10 01:32 am Link

Photographer

Sensor Photo Studios

Posts: 42

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

I'm on the 1st flight to Singapore to propose on bended knee LOL!

Jul 10 10 01:34 am Link

Photographer

Nicole Nygaard

Posts: 795

Sacramento, California, US

Everyone's gotta love Winnie

Jul 10 10 01:38 am Link

Photographer

David Friend Photograpy

Posts: 710

Everett, Washington, US

Steve Broadbent wrote:
I think i love you

+1 and also Thank you.

Jul 10 10 01:41 am Link

Photographer

Harold Rose

Posts: 2925

Calhoun, Georgia, US

Winnie L wrote:
There has been a really great thread going on about showing appreciation for models and what they go through, so I want to take this chance to do the same for photographers.

1)Thank you for taking the time to take up photography classes, start off as being lighting assistants and lugging other people's equipment to learn about lighting, directing and composition. Those who are self taught, more kudos to you to you for taking the extra effort and time to study online manuals, asking questions and getting new models to test with you.

2)Thank you for taking the time to learn this stupid and ridiculously difficult programme called Photoshop to help models look better, be it burn dodge heal, liquify, lighting, cloning and definitely helping us look better when we have an unexpected pimple or rash. Not to mention the amount of time you spend editing after each shoot. For models, we go home after a shoot and we can rest and wait for images, for you guys, the shoot is only half done.

3)Thank you for taking the patience to coach us and making little jokes to help us relax when we are nervous on set, and taking the effort to make models feel as comfortable and confident as they can.

4)Thank you for having to deal with flakes, escort problems, whine and still move on and not give up totally on models, and photography.

5)Thank you for climbing stairs and ladders and trees and squeezing into funny positions to capture the best angles of us ever, perspiring and tiring yourself out after the shoot and going home to a grumpy wife/girlfriend/boyfriend.

6)Thank you for spending about half of your hard earned cash you earn at your day job to puchase camera and lighting equipment, and using more of your money you could have bought yourself a new car or Rolex to maintain your equipment every now and then to be able to carry on with your profession, which in turns allow us to maintain our profession.

7)Thank you to the newer photographers for having the courage to approach models for TFP and having your ego slammed when they do not respond to you.

8)Thank you for not looking down on us. (Most of us anyway).

9)Thank you for taking the time to research on concepts, recce locations where you could be having your day off going fishing or spending time with your SO or getting hammered with your buddies.

10)Thanks for spending the extra money to engage and negotiate rates with stylists, muas and agency bookers so we can all have nice images to print for our book.

11)Thanks for taking the extra time aside from photography to spend time in the forums to give newbies advice.

12) For photographers who shoot film, thank you for spending the extra money to develop them when you can shoot digital and get a cheaper result, especially when film is so fucking ridiculously expensive.

I'll add on if I think of more. Other models, if you can think of anything you wish to add on, clarify and comment, please do so. big_smile

Gosh,  I have been at the business of photography professionally for 60 years,  and haven't learned but 5 percent of that... Go  with the newbie advice,  just be sure it is accurate.. not just your opinion..

Jul 10 10 01:44 am Link

Photographer

John_T

Posts: 66

London, England, United Kingdom

Just thought I would be first to say thanks from all us in the UK

Jul 10 10 01:48 am Link

Photographer

H B P

Posts: 3583

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sensor Photo Studios wrote:
I'm on the 1st flight to Singapore to propose on bended knee LOL!

She's my girl. We're going to elope and then get some ice cream. wink

Jul 10 10 01:50 am Link

Model

Sammy Jojo

Posts: 47

Braintree, England, United Kingdom

Thank you Winnie for such an excellent understanding of the photographer's point of view.

Even a little appreciation goes a long way with photographers.

Peter

p.s. you are a credit to the 3rd LIST, keep it up!

Jul 10 10 01:58 am Link

Photographer

Mui Tsun Photography

Posts: 2

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for making me see that I am doing so much for my passion. I didn't realise that before  smile

Jul 10 10 02:04 am Link

Model

--Ishtar--

Posts: 1254

Heerlen, Limburg, Netherlands

And thank you, to all photographers who genuinely care when we're freezing on a location shoot and will do their utmost to make us feel comfortable and appreciated.

Thank you for listening to our ideas (even if they don't work).

Thank you for bearing with our impatience to see the results of our shoots smile

In general, I can say most of the photogs I have worked with have been
trustworty, professional and apologetic if the photos took a little longer to get ready than expected.

Thumbs up!

And Winnie, as I said already, you are such a lovely girl. It's great to see you being caring and appreciative!

Jul 10 10 02:06 am Link

Photographer

MirrorImage Photography

Posts: 407

Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, US

Thanks Winnie, I think your on the way to being the number 1 favorite model on here!!!

Jul 10 10 02:23 am Link

Photographer

kstokesphoto

Posts: 122

Blanchard, Oklahoma, US

Thank you, Winnie... As someone said earlier; a little appreciation goes a long way with most of us photographers.
I know for my part, if a model is appreciative and strokes my ego in the right way, she'll get more from a TF shoot than we agreed on originally...
Thanks again, you're a sweety... you need to come to the states.

Jul 10 10 02:27 am Link

Photographer

Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4184

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

Winnie, you're ace !

Jul 10 10 02:30 am Link

Photographer

Raines Media

Posts: 1

Miami, Florida, US

On behalf of all photographers out there.. I believe I speak for all when I say

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME smile

Jul 10 10 02:34 am Link

Photographer

Blade_Runner

Posts: 30

Baltimore, Maryland, US

~~~ Of all the effort put forth in producing a final product, there is nothing finer then to see something created that was 'a moment in time' that will last for all time. Its a special feeling that you will never forget: model & photographer.

Jul 10 10 02:37 am Link

Photographer

erasm roterdam

Posts: 596

Millbury, Massachusetts, US

Winnie,
I think that you just became my favorite model.

Jul 10 10 02:44 am Link