Forums > Model Colloquy > Model Club Inc... Scam or not? help please..

Model

Haruvamp

Posts: 15

Cranston, Rhode Island, US

I would need help, maybe someone has some experience with model club Inc?
I went to an open casting, and they are interessted in me.
In their contract they say their usual agency book/ composotive order fee is 545.
They say it is for making my coomp cards and for the fee for their agency photagrapher. After the photagrapher agreed with a tfp with me, they agreed to change it to 250.
I would get 10 compcards in the beginning and if I'm out of it they restock me.
Every 2 years their needs to be an reshoot to keep the compcards up to date.
There is no end of contract, I can stay as long as I want, but every 2 years is the fee again.

Can I trust them?help please

Sep 16 10 11:33 pm Link

Model

Haruvamp

Posts: 15

Cranston, Rhode Island, US

Hey I just checked out on m.bbb.org and found out model club inc is not accredited...
Anybody help please...

Sep 17 10 01:35 am Link

Model

K_G

Posts: 2930

Detroit, Michigan, US

Haruvamp wrote:
I would need help, maybe someone has some experience with model club Inc?
I went to an open casting, and they are interessted in me.
In their contract they say their usual agency book/ composotive order fee is 545.
They say it is for making my coomp cards and for the fee for their agency photagrapher. After the photagrapher agreed with a tfp with me, they agreed to change it to 250.
I would get 10 compcards in the beginning and if I'm out of it they restock me.
Every 2 years their needs to be an reshoot to keep the compcards up to date.
There is no end of contract, I can stay as long as I want, but every 2 years is the fee again.

Can I trust them?help please

"fee for the agency photographer"....? "every 2 years there is a fee again"...?

That alone right there tells you that this place is a portfolio mill.

Also, when you order comp cards, you normally order more than 10. Standard minimum I order is between 50-100, and to give you an idea of what they cost, they run $100-150 for 100 color 2-sided comp cards, depending on the printer. 

Run away from this place as fast as you can.....

Sep 17 10 04:35 am Link

Photographer

MartinImages

Posts: 3869

Los Angeles, California, US

Just the fact that they approached YOU means they have a sales force, and are selling something.

...and probably not your best deal.  Sales forces are expensive.  wink

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Sep 17 10 11:50 am Link

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Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 21903

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Haruvamp wrote:
Can I trust them?help please

SCAMAROO ! ! !

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Sep 17 10 03:31 pm Link

Model

Michael Stiles

Posts: 120

Denver, Colorado, US

Haruvamp wrote:
I would need help, maybe someone has some experience with model club Inc?
I went to an open casting, and they are interessted in me.
In their contract they say their usual agency book/ composotive order fee is 545.
They say it is for making my coomp cards and for the fee for their agency photagrapher. After the photagrapher agreed with a tfp with me, they agreed to change it to 250.
I would get 10 compcards in the beginning and if I'm out of it they restock me.
Every 2 years their needs to be an reshoot to keep the compcards up to date.
There is no end of contract, I can stay as long as I want, but every 2 years is the fee again.

Can I trust them?help please

Slowly turn around, and book it! (RUN)

Sep 17 10 03:49 pm Link

Model

Gitte

Posts: 995

Newton, Massachusetts, US

I was signed with Model Club a while back.
I don't think the fee sounds outrageous,- some agencies do charge for comp cards, website etc... You say you would get 10 cards to start, but how many will they have / will be printed the first time? Redoing your pictures and comp cards every 2 years is not unusual either. So, in all, I think they are legitimate, and I have met models at casting calls who are with them.
Now, while I don't like to speak badly about anyone...I will say this... They did not send me on very many casting calls, and I felt they did not do their best to represent me, so I looked elsewhere and signed with another agency a short while later. (Even after I'd been signed with Model Club, had my photo shoot (with an independent photographer- at the time, they didn't have "their own"), and as I recall, even had my comps made, I still had not met the director, so I asked for an appointment to speak with him...and he was soooo unfriendly and rude)
Best wishes whatever you decide! (Maybe try other agencies too, before you decide)

Sep 17 10 04:30 pm Link

Model

Kitty LaRose

Posts: 12715

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Generally, as a rule of thumb: if you have to ask, it's a scam!

What makes me a little edgy about this situation, however, is their in-house photographer. While I know photographers will book with agencies, my experiences show that in-house photographers are a tell-tale sign of a scam hmm

[Sheesh, I butchered that explanation!]

Sep 17 10 05:16 pm Link

Photographer

ME_

Posts: 3146

Atlanta, Georgia, US

$250 for TEN comp cards?  Why do you think this sounds reasonable?

Sep 17 10 05:34 pm Link

Model

Gitte

Posts: 995

Newton, Massachusetts, US

maryelle stclare wrote:
$250 for TEN comp cards?  Why do you think this sounds reasonable?

10 cards is what SHE gets, to begin with, to give out at castings....
at least, that's how I read it.

Sep 17 10 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

ME_

Posts: 3146

Atlanta, Georgia, US

If she is paying for the comp cards, why do they get to dole them out?

Sep 17 10 05:58 pm Link

Model

Gitte

Posts: 995

Newton, Massachusetts, US

maryelle stclare wrote:
If she is paying for the comp cards, why do they get to dole them out?

Sounds unfair, but that's what agencies do (well, one agency did give me a ton of mine, I could wallpaper my room with them;-) ) When you run out, you contact them and they send you another eight to ten comps

Sep 17 10 06:05 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18211

Orlando, Florida, US

Agency in house photographer?

They don't have a list of agency approved photographers?

I've heard mixed reviews from that agency from a few models.

Sep 17 10 06:20 pm Link

Photographer

ME_

Posts: 3146

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Gitte wrote:
Sounds unfair, but that's what agencies do (well, one agency did give me a ton of mine, I could wallpaper my room with them;-) ) When you run out, you contact them and they send you another eight to ten comps

Ah, OK, well $250 still seems like quite a lot for comp cards.

Sep 17 10 06:31 pm Link

Model

Malin_

Posts: 3902

New York, New York, US

Haruvamp wrote:
I would need help, maybe someone has some experience with model club Inc?
I went to an open casting, and they are interessted in me.
In their contract they say their usual agency book/ composotive order fee is 545.
They say it is for making my coomp cards and for the fee for their agency photagrapher. After the photagrapher agreed with a tfp with me, they agreed to change it to 250.
I would get 10 compcards in the beginning and if I'm out of it they restock me.
Every 2 years their needs to be an reshoot to keep the compcards up to date.
There is no end of contract, I can stay as long as I want, but every 2 years is the fee again.

Can I trust them?help please

It's not unusual to pay upfront for an agency book, comp cards etc. But after 2 years, shouldn't they have booked you some jobs so you have tear sheets to update your book with...? Nothing wrong with paying for new shots if you need them, even if you've been modeling for a while, but that's a decision you will have to take when the time comes, nothing that should be decided by your agency 2 years in advance.

They sound like one of those agencies that are part agency, part portfolio mill. Stay away!

EDIT: oh wait, "in house" photographer... doesn't sound good at all! Again, stay away!

Sep 17 10 07:40 pm Link

Model

Haruvamp

Posts: 15

Cranston, Rhode Island, US

Angela Michelle Perez wrote:
Agency in house photographer?

They don't have a list of agency approved photographers?

I've heard mixed reviews from that agency from a few models.

Ok my english is bad. Let's try this again:
They just reccommend one photographer, the charging fee for the photographer is arround 200 dollar extra to the 250 agency fee. Is this then a independent photographer?

Sep 19 10 04:56 pm Link

Model

K_G

Posts: 2930

Detroit, Michigan, US

Haruvamp wrote:

Ok my english is bad. Let's try this again:
They just reccommend one photographer, the charging fee for the photographer is arround 200 dollar extra to the 250 agency fee. Is this then a independent photographer?

If they only recommend ONE photographer, then I would not do this.

Legit agencies have a list of photographers who are agency approved and you should be able to choose from that list. Some agencies will recommend certain photographers for you (depending on the types of photos you need).

If I were you, I would SKIP this agency. Find one that does not have just one photographer. wink

Sep 19 10 06:39 pm Link

Photographer

rp_photo

Posts: 42495

Houston, Texas, US

Smells like BS.

Sep 19 10 06:40 pm Link

Photographer

dklee studio photo

Posts: 2587

Richmond, Virginia, US

Modelogic in richmond does the same thing.  but it is $950
it comes with compcards, and 1 week class on how to model.

they are affiliated with Wilhelmina Models so people think they will get the WM on the cards, which they do.

out of the thousands that they say are modelogic Wilhelmina Models, only like 10% actually get jobs.  the rest, they just sucker into paying for more compcars year after year.

Sep 19 10 06:47 pm Link

Model

Glamour Jessica

Posts: 2142

Clifton, New Jersey, US

RUN it is a scam!

Sep 19 10 06:48 pm Link

Model

Jade T.

Posts: 16

Winthrop, Massachusetts, US

Wow, I just happened to see this online about The Model Club, and even though it's an older post, I would like to give my opinion, as I was signed with them!  Keep your purse closed, and find another agent! I paid $800.00 for awful photo's, and comp cards!  As soon as they got their money, never heard from them again!  Run!

May 27 11 03:02 pm Link