Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > how to get this skin colour?

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

A lot of people like this kind of skin colour in Spain (rebeca Saray picture copyright)http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168161_485766402869_301209542869_5637735_5409830_n.jpg

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Feb 18 11 08:30 am Link

Retoucher

Jeffrey Scott Fogarty

Posts: 176

Detroit, Michigan, US

Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn

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Select Color Range (sample the skin) >  fill with white

Feb 18 11 09:08 am Link

Retoucher

George Thomson

Posts: 698

Concord, California, US

Davidtoro wrote:
A lot of people like this kind of skin colour in Spain http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168161_485766402869_301209542869_5637735_5409830_n.jpg

  and I want to know how to get it for example with this picture
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/545 … ddcb_b.jpg Any advice?

a quick way of doing things... No D&B

added some "shimmer"
tanned the skin (to bronze)
desaturated

(ie, make skin bronze, there must be some tuts for it, and desaturate)

http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test_small.jpg




... or you can create a skin-gradient from the source image and use that directly

Feb 18 11 09:56 am Link

Retoucher

Bloom_reflection

Posts: 350

Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria

it's hard to say only with words what you must to do  look this version of colors I made some layers for you of course you  must to retouch the pic and add more highlights with d&b but I think the skin color is very close

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6407/5455861157.jpg

if you like these colors msg me I'll send you psd with my layers

Feb 18 11 10:06 am Link

Retoucher

The Photoshop Retoucher

Posts: 39

New York, New York, US

does this do anything for you?

Feb 18 11 10:19 am Link

Retoucher

Bloom_reflection

Posts: 350

Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria

The Photoshop Retoucher wrote:
does this do anything for you?

what is wrong with you. Do you see somewhere that the OP want this pics to be retouched and give permission to use this pic in your port. Do you know what is mean COPYRIGHT. Sorry don't have intension to spam but I'm indignant

Feb 18 11 10:30 am Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

There are several plug-ins that make it easy to do (though it isn't a one-click operation) ...

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/272/skinchange.jpg

Feb 18 11 10:30 am Link

Photographer

Don Garrett

Posts: 4984

Escondido, California, US

Note that the skin in the second image is very red, (compared to the first). I also notice that, in the second image, her chin area is very yellow. You might be able to get most of the job done just by going into selective color, and, in the yellows, (you might have to try a few things), but I would start by adding a VERY small amount of magenta, and subtracting an even smaller amount of cyan, until the color in that area looks like the rest of the face, (a little "redder"), and the VALUE is the same as it was before. Click OK, then open the selective color again, and in the reds, subtract magenta, and black, until it looks right. I usually ADD black, until the VALUE is the way it was before I have subtracted, but, in this case, you want a lighter value than you started with. You would have to play with the sliders until the color and value are the way you want them. The VALUE should be lighter after this process, but you still might have to do a small amount of dodging, maybe even a little burning, but probably not, (that is a LOT more work to get the same result, but can add a little emphasis to highlights/shadows). If you want the lips to be red again, you could "paint" them back with the history brush. That also works with the very good process described by Photon Mayhem, above a couple of posts, though I noticed some burned out highlights in that image above her brow, you might be able to "fix" those with a light application of the history brush in that area.
  If ANY small part of the skin is STILL not the color you want, you can lightly "paint" that area, with the paintbrush, set in the "color mode". I would usually select a color that is opposite on the color wheel. A very light touch, with the Wacom tablet set to pressure sensitivity for opacity is all that is needed.
  I'm assuming that you want to keep most, or all of the original skin texture, as it is very smooth, and nice as it is. Just a very small amount of clone tool in her cheek, where there are some very small blemishes, should do the trick. You have to clone FROM an area that is the color, value, and "directionality" that you are cloning TO. Use a very small, soft edged brush when you are cloning here.
  Though the description is long, this should be a much more efficient way to get this look than the first process described, but it takes a lot of understanding of how the tools work. Experiment ! Selective color can be a very powerful tool when you know how to control it.
  It depends on how much you want to change the image, and how much time you want to spend, you could go on forever. If you want the lips to be MORE red, and dark, you could select the greater area, make two layers via copy, (Ctrl J twice), put the top layer in the "multiply mode" then merge it down to the first 'lips layer". Then take the opacity of that layer down to your taste, and erase the edges, with a soft edged brush, until the edges look perfect.
Before you merge THAT layer down, you can add as much saturation as you like.
-Don

Feb 18 11 10:51 am Link

Photographer

Joan Morgades

Posts: 312

Reus, Catalonia, Spain

Jeff Fogarty Retoucher wrote:
Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn, Dodge, Burn

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Select Color Range (sample the skin) >  fill with white

I agree, I think this is the correct way wink, it looks like she uses portraiture for cleaning the skin, add white to desaturate the skin tones and then D&B.
http://rebecasarayfashion.blogspot.com/

Feb 18 11 10:56 am Link

Retoucher

Rafael Alexander

Posts: 395

Atlanta, Georgia, US

It looks like a low opacity desaturated layer set to screen.....with some serious dodging and burning...

Feb 18 11 02:18 pm Link

Retoucher

ManoDeGato by MaryTere

Posts: 283

Guadalupe, San José, Costa Rica

Quick edit using a b/W layer on soft light 100% and  a hue saturation layer on top of that using the always helpful Calvin Hollywood Skin Desaturation tutorial found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19RRvexHIxc

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f203/Mary-Tere/skin.jpg

Yep, I know there's some (a lot!) blotching left, but I'm just pointing out one way to go...
Proper color correction should be done before using Calvin's technique wink

Feb 18 11 02:42 pm Link

Digital Artist

Michael C Pearson

Posts: 1343

Agoura Hills, California, US

Using this technique less aggressively will work well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A75HTPz0xEw

Feb 18 11 02:46 pm Link

Photographer

Julian Marsalis

Posts: 1191

Austin, Texas, US

Photon Mayhem wrote:
added some "shimmer"
tanned the skin (to bronze)
desaturated

(ie, make skin bronze, there must be some tuts for it, and desaturate)


... or you can create a skin-gradient from the source image and use that directly

Hmmm. whats your method to do the bronze skin if you don't mind sharing?

Feb 18 11 02:49 pm Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Another (simple) approach ...

1. B&W adjustment layer, screen blend mode, 100% layer opacity, and these adjustments:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1931/bw1a.jpg

2. Duplicate the B&W layer, change blend mode to soft light, reduce layer opacity to 40% or so.

I painted out the effect a bit on the hair.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3218/skinchange2.jpg

Feb 18 11 02:57 pm Link

Retoucher

Rob Mac Studio

Posts: 1105

London, England, United Kingdom

On this I  used selected colour and filled with white. Then a bit of dodge and burn., but as you can see lots of ways of going about it.

Feb 18 11 03:02 pm Link

Photographer

Evocative Images

Posts: 508

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Iliana Valeva wrote:

what is wrong with you. Do you see somewhere that the OP want this pics to be retouched and give permission to use this pic in your port. Do you know what is mean COPYRIGHT. Sorry don't have intension to spam but I'm indignant

I wonder about this too. I don't see anything that says you can take the image, edit and use it in your port. The OP is asking for help, not to be ripped off. Credit isn't even extended.

Feb 18 11 03:08 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 23550

Salem, Oregon, US

+1

ManoDeGato by MaryTere wrote:
the always helpful Calvin Hollywood Skin Desaturation tutorial found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19RRvexHIxc

Feb 18 11 03:13 pm Link

Digital Artist

Michael C Pearson

Posts: 1343

Agoura Hills, California, US

I used Natalia's white skin method, about five minutes of very sloppy dodge and burn, topaz adjust (copied the layer, one to lighten, one to darken - setting opacity of each), and some other little localized tweaks here and there (selective color, hue/sat on the lips, curve on the bg...ect). I actually think darkening the background is an important step because of how values are so relative. If you want extremely light looking skin, shoot on a dark background.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1y7OlM3ySZY/TV8c5mpIrOI/AAAAAAAAASY/a--jpA68UXc/s1600/whiteskin.jpg

Feb 18 11 05:29 pm Link

Retoucher

Chaviit0

Posts: 2240

Wenatchee, Washington, US

I did a quick search in google and I found this
http://www.photoshop.tutorialsstock.com … s-139.html

It's not the same style but similar![[=

Good luck!

Feb 18 11 05:42 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Feb 18 11 09:12 pm Link

Retoucher

George Thomson

Posts: 698

Concord, California, US

Julian Marsalis wrote:
Hmmm. whats your method to do the bronze skin if you don't mind sharing?

just a custom gradient map


but... since the question was about the *color*... I wonder why there are a lot of answers involving *D&b*


anyway, here's a quick use of PhotonicTools to get it more to the general look and still no d-b..

(there's a tad more color in the shadows, which if you care should be also taken slightly down)

http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test_small2.jpg

Feb 18 11 11:50 pm Link

Retoucher

Bloom_reflection

Posts: 350

Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria

Photon Mayhem wrote:
but... since the question was about the *color*... I wonder why there are a lot of answers involving *D&b*

you know d&b isn't only for skin smoothening in the sample pics there is d&b for the highlights somebody called it carving.

Feb 19 11 12:00 am Link

Retoucher

George Thomson

Posts: 698

Concord, California, US

Iliana Valeva wrote:
you know d&b isn't only for skin smoothening in the sample pics there is d&b for the highlights somebody called it carving.

...you change the luminosity,
and albeit the usual slight color loss while doing it, the changes in the colors should be minimal

or are you talking about something else?

personally I prefer "paint with light" to the traditional d/b layers
(although I didn't use any here)

Feb 19 11 12:05 am Link

Retoucher

Chaviit0

Posts: 2240

Wenatchee, Washington, US

Photon Mayhem wrote:

just a custom gradient map


but... since the question was about the *color*... I wonder why there are a lot of answers involving *D&b*


anyway, here's a quick use of PhotonicTools to get it more to the general look and still no d-b..

(there's a tad more color in the shadows, which if you care should be also taken slightly down)

I still don't understand your method
But you did a Great job![[=

Feb 19 11 12:16 am Link

Digital Artist

Michael C Pearson

Posts: 1343

Agoura Hills, California, US

Photon Mayhem wrote:
but... since the question was about the *color*... I wonder why there are a lot of answers involving *D&b*

The definition of "color" includes value, not just hue and saturation. Why is this? It's because many colors are dependent on value to exist (pink requires a light value, burgundy requires a dark value). Check out the first definition of "color" at dictionary.com if you don't believe me - it says hue, saturation, and BRIGHTNESS.

I think it's safe to say David is interested in the overall look of the skin, which he refers to as "color." Guess we wont know until he posts again in the thread, but I'd be surprised if he only was interested in the hue/saturation without the shininess that comes from the d&b. Only time will tell...

Feb 19 11 12:16 am Link

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

MP Retouch wrote:
I think it's safe to say David is interested in the overall look of the skin, which he refers to as "color." Guess we wont know until he posts again in the thread, but I'd be surprised if he only was interested in the hue/saturation without the shininess that comes from the d&b. Only time will tell...

You have the reason

Feb 19 11 12:22 am Link

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Ruben Sanchez

Posts: 3570

San Antonio, Texas, US

Evocative Images wrote:

I wonder about this too. I don't see anything that says you can take the image, edit and use it in your port. The OP is asking for help, not to be ripped off. Credit isn't even extended.

Kind of difficult to show the photographer how to get the look he wants on his photo, unless you use his photo.  He even posted it, which implied, "Can someone show me how to get the look with this photo?"   

Those of you who've been here for several years, know that if you post your photo and ask for help, just about everyone is going to use your photo to help you.  If you're afraid that someone is going to use your photo to show you how to do it, then one should never post it, when they ask, "How do I do it?"

Feb 19 11 12:23 am Link

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

The Photoshop Retoucher

Do not use pictures in your portfolio without ask the photographer,model ect

Feb 19 11 12:24 am Link

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Ruben Sanchez wrote:

Kind of difficult to show the photographer how to get the look he wants on his photo, unless you use his photo.  He even posted it, which implied, "Can someone show me how to get the look with this photo?"   

Those of you who've been here for several years, know that if you post your photo and ask for help, just about everyone is going to use your photo to help you.  If you're afraid that someone is going to use your photo to show you how to do it, then one should never post it, when they ask, "How do I do it?"

Ruben I do not agree with you This si not the challenge forum moreover You can explain me without use my image on the explanation

Feb 19 11 12:25 am Link

Retoucher

Bloom_reflection

Posts: 350

Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria

Photon Mayhem wrote:
or are you talking about something else?

personally I prefer "paint with light" to the traditional d/b layers
(although I didn't use any here)

yeah I was talking for the same "paint with the light" using d&b

Feb 19 11 12:27 am Link

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Joan Morgades wrote:

I agree, I think this is the correct way wink, it looks like she uses portraiture for cleaning the skin, add white to desaturate the skin tones and then D&B.
http://rebecasarayfashion.blogspot.com/

Thanks

Feb 19 11 12:27 am Link

Photographer

Davidtoro

Posts: 231

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Evocative Images wrote:

I wonder about this too. I don't see anything that says you can take the image, edit and use it in your port. The OP is asking for help, not to be ripped off. Credit isn't even extended.

Thanks I already reported

Feb 19 11 12:28 am Link

Retoucher

Bloom_reflection

Posts: 350

Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria

Ruben Sanchez wrote:
Kind of difficult to show the photographer how to get the look he wants on his photo, unless you use his photo.  He even posted it, which implied, "Can someone show me how to get the look with this photo?"   

Those of you who've been here for several years, know that if you post your photo and ask for help, just about everyone is going to use your photo to help you.  If you're afraid that someone is going to use your photo to show you how to do it, then one should never post it, when they ask, "How do I do it?"

of course more of  use the pics to show how to do this look but this not mean that we obligate to use in our profiles and this retoucher just put this pic in his port without asking for permission. I think there is too many people here who doesn't respect the copyrights

Feb 19 11 12:30 am Link

Retoucher

George Thomson

Posts: 698

Concord, California, US

Chaviit0 wrote:
I still don't understand your method
But you did a Great job![[=

thanks...

here's the quick version

original
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-1.jpg

skinsmooth (a quick touch here and there)
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-2.jpg

"shimmer" (a quick action to push the highlights)
... or you can do whatever you like to get it more defined... d/b, plw... etc
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-3.jpg

tanned gradient map
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-4.jpg

desaturate
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-5.jpg


it takes a couple of min. and it is resolution independent (unless you do something manual like d-b) ...

besides the "shimmer" action all should be straight forward.
but as you see you can achieve the shimmer effect in many ways.
hope this clears things up smile

Feb 19 11 01:02 am Link

Retoucher

Chaviit0

Posts: 2240

Wenatchee, Washington, US

Photon Mayhem wrote:

thanks...

here's the quick version

original
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-1.jpg

skinsmooth (a quick touch here and there)
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-2.jpg

"shimmer" (a quick action to push the highlights)
... or you can do whatever you like to get it more defined... d/b, plw... etc
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-3.jpg

tanned gradient map
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-4.jpg

desaturate
http://mobilefiles.ca/SkinSmooth/skin_test-5.jpg


it takes a couple of min. and it is resolution independent (unless you do something manual like d-b) ...

besides the "shimmer" action all should be straight forward.
but as you see you can achieve the shimmer effect in many ways.
hope this clears things up smile

I couldnt understand what the shimmer thing was but now I did!
Thank you very much! big_smile
I love this style and I always wondered how to do it!

Feb 19 11 01:12 am Link

Photographer

Joan Morgades

Posts: 312

Reus, Catalonia, Spain

Davidtoro wrote:

Thanks

You´re welcome wink.
By the way, Rebeca is a MM member. You can ask her.
http://www.modelmayhem.com/256318

Feb 19 11 02:03 am Link

Retoucher

George Thomson

Posts: 698

Concord, California, US

Chaviit0 wrote:
I couldnt understand what the shimmer thing was but now I did!
Thank you very much! big_smile
I love this style and I always wondered how to do it!

cheers smile

Feb 19 11 04:42 am Link

Photographer

Evocative Images

Posts: 508

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Ruben Sanchez wrote:

Kind of difficult to show the photographer how to get the look he wants on his photo, unless you use his photo.  He even posted it, which implied, "Can someone show me how to get the look with this photo?"   

Those of you who've been here for several years, know that if you post your photo and ask for help, just about everyone is going to use your photo to help you.  If you're afraid that someone is going to use your photo to show you how to do it, then one should never post it, when they ask, "How do I do it?"

I didn't have an issue with his showing what he did and using the photo to do so, but I didn't think it was right that he added it to his portfolio without permission.

Feb 19 11 12:20 pm Link

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The Photoshop Retoucher

Posts: 39

New York, New York, US

The photographer's thread was asking people for ideas on how to make his image look more like the sample he posted. How else can we reply with a sample image without posting somewhere? It would either have to be placed on our MM account or some online service like photobucket?

Feb 19 11 03:38 pm Link

Retoucher

The Photoshop Retoucher

Posts: 39

New York, New York, US

Evocative Images wrote:
I didn't have an issue with his showing what he did and using the photo to do so, but I didn't think it was right that he added it to his portfolio without permission.

Davidtoro wrote:
Thanks I already reported

it has to be posted somewhere in order to have a link to it - no difference between MM server, photobucket, mobilfiles etc. there are still 28 uses of this guy's image on the above page besides mine (which I removed) - I hope you make the same takedown demand for the other 28 images.

Feb 19 11 03:40 pm Link