chitownmodel09 wrote:
that's what i was confused about I'm 5'8 and my hips are 38" I wear a 10 or bigger depending on the jeans

What you wear in the store is very different than the size you actually are.

I wear a size 6 in jeans. As a fit model, I fit a size 8 perfectly. I can even zip up a size 6 in fit.

My hips are 38.5".

Daniela Victoria wrote:

I find the International Editions to be much better than the American version. The women are more diverse, curvier and have a sultry look to them. Not to say there aren't beautiful women in the American version, but the type of women I like to see in Playboy frequently are in French, Italian, or something other than American Playboy.

French Playboy is one of my personal favs.

Marianne Michaela wrote:
I don't know why exactly but this makes me very happy

Brazilian plus size model Fluvia Lacerda in playboy Brazil!


good for her

has this happened before? a plus size model in playboy (and I don't mean some random fat chick, I mean really a plus size model)

I guess we've forgotten Marilynn Monroe? She was not only the cover girl but the centerfold for the very first issue of Playboy.

Isaiah Brink wrote:

I guess we've forgotten Marilynn Monroe? She was not only the cover girl but the centerfold for the very first issue of Playboy.

*sigh* Mr. Brink, please read this entire thread lol

Dan Hudson wrote:

Rebeca... Do not listen to bullying ... I would love to shoot with you (60's & 70's style Playboy and Pin-up) any day of the week!!!

OOOh sexy. like bridgett bardeau (sp?) style. very nice.

Rebecca B wrote:

*sigh* Mr. Brink, please read this entire thread lol

Uggghh get over it. Is the world a worse place because I posted that? If you say yes, you live in an excessively fragile world incapeable of life in any form. And speaking of life, ever find it interesting how some people don't seem to have one and inssist on going on a tyrant and arguing with people in the fourms here? I do

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Uggghh get over it. Is the world a worse place because I posted that? If you say yes, you live in an excessively fragile world incapeable of life in any form. And speaking of life, ever find it interesting how some people don't seem to have one and inssist on going on a tyrant and arguing with people in the fourms here? I do

whoa. calm down.i was just letting you know we talked about it already. If I came across as being irritated, I apologize b/c I was in no way at all. Have a good day.

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Uggghh get over it. Is the world a worse place because I posted that? If you say yes, you live in an excessively fragile world incapeable of life in any form. And speaking of life, ever find it interesting how some people don't seem to have one and inssist on going on a tyrant and arguing with people in the fourms here? I do

Nadirah B wrote:

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Uggghh get over it. Is the world a worse place because I posted that? If you say yes, you live in an excessively fragile world incapeable of life in any form. And speaking of life, ever find it interesting how some people don't seem to have one and inssist on going on a tyrant and arguing with people in the fourms here? I do

Stick, meet ass.

Nadirah B wrote:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st15106519

There will always be people to use as examples and comparisons... thems the breaks of having iconic celebrity figures.

Isaiah Brink wrote:

I guess we've forgotten Marilynn Monroe? She was not only the cover girl but the centerfold for the very first issue of Playboy.

okay, let's assume for a second that marilyn could be considered a plus size model at one point in her career (which is not the case, for various reasons). But I think we can all agree that she was definitely not plus size in that particular plus size issue, so it's really not an argument.

really, I love marilyn, but this thread is about fluvia making it into playboy

Marianne Michaela wrote:
I don't know why exactly but this makes me very happy

Brazilian plus size model Fluvia Lacerda in playboy Brazil!


good for her

has this happened before? a plus size model in playboy (and I don't mean some random fat chick, I mean really a plus size model)

The standards of Playboy in foreign editions are VASTLY different than their US counterpart.

Farenell Photography wrote:

The standards of Playboy in foreign editions are VASTLY different than their US counterpart.

oh that's definitely true. for instance, in belgium, we prefer a more natural look . different people like different things I guess... we haven't had a plus model here yet, but maybe things will change the next couple of years!

Marianne Michaela wrote:

oh that's definitely true. for instance, in belgium, we prefer a more natural look . different people like different things I guess... we haven't had a plus model here yet, but maybe things will change the next couple of years!

I prefer the standards of Playboy in other countries other than America.

I love Playboy USA, but plastic and rail thin gets boring sometime. I wish they would publish more of what we see in International Editions, but maybe that's not what Americans want....

Marianne Michaela wrote:

okay, let's assume for a second that marilyn could be considered a plus size model at one point in her career (which is not the case, for various reasons). But I think we can all agree that she was definitely not plus size in that particular plus size issue, so it's really not an argument.

really, I love marilyn, but this thread is about fluvia making it into playboy

Really????? Monroe is/was a plus sized model by the standards at the time and todays standards, that's just the tale of the tape measure.  Flauva is one too. I'm not sure what qualifies a plus sized model to you, but those are your standards not everybody else's. Did you know that after it was proved that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around, people still thought the sun revolved around the earth, an Rey were right in their own minds and like minded people, still wrong though. Take care and if the lady that appeared in playboy brazil was participating in this thread I'd congratulate her for doing so.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

I prefer the standards of Playboy in other countries other than America.

I love Playboy USA, but plastic and rail thin gets boring sometime. I wish they would publish more of what we see in International Editions, but maybe that's not what Americans want....

Wow that's one condnation from a former Playboy USA model. One thing thats been constant here in America is that we DON'T do things like the rest of the world, it's he other way around. Do you think the people on the mayflower came over here to be like Europeans? Nope, that's why they left Europe. Do you think the indigenous people here wanted to be like their ancestors? Nope, that's why hey migrated away from them to here.

Isaiah Brink wrote:
Really????? Monroe is/was a plus sized model by the standards at the time and todays standards, that's just the tale of the tape measure.  Flauva is one too. I'm not sure what qualifies a plus sized model to you, but those are your standards not everybody else's. Did you know that after it was proved that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around, people still thought the sun revolved around the earth, an Rey were right in their own minds and like minded people, still wrong though. Take care and if the lady that appeared in playboy brazil was participating in this thread I'd congratulate her for doing so.

even if you complete forget the size debate, then it would be her height that doesn't make her a plus size model by today's standards. she was a gorgeous and very curvacious woman. really, I don't know why this is such a big deal...

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Wow that's one condnation from a former Playboy USA model. One thing thats been constant here in America is that we DON'T do things like the rest of the world, it's he other way around. Do you think the people on the mayflower came over here to be like Europeans? Nope, that's why they left Europe. Do you think the indigenous people here wanted to be like their ancestors? Nope, that's why hey migrated away from them to here.

extremely weird comparisons... different people like different things, different cultures find different things attractive. playboy has to differentiate to fit the needs of the culture it is targetting. that's basic marketing, it has nothing to do the mayflower

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Really????? Monroe is/was a plus sized model by the standards at the time and todays standards, that's just the tale of the tape measure.  Flauva is one too. I'm not sure what qualifies a plus sized model to you, but those are your standards not everybody else's. Did you know that after it was proved that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around, people still thought the sun revolved around the earth, an Rey were right in their own minds and like minded people, still wrong though. Take care and if the lady that appeared in playboy brazil was participating in this thread I'd congratulate her for doing so.

Oh my Lord and Taylor.....

Isaiah Brink wrote:

Wow that's one condnation from a former Playboy USA model. One thing thats been constant here in America is that we DON'T do things like the rest of the world, it's he other way around. Do you think the people on the mayflower came over here to be like Europeans? Nope, that's why they left Europe. Do you think the indigenous people here wanted to be like their ancestors? Nope, that's why hey migrated away from them to here.

What's a "condnation"?

So, because I was in USA Playboy, I should like them more than the other ones?

Yes, we don't do things like the rest of the world...maybe we should once in awhile. Sorry but Playboy USA, in my opinion, while beautiful, does not compare to the women I've seen in International Editions. I'm sure part of the reason is because what American men find attractive is not the same as what other men in other countries find attractive.

You sound like an ass in this whole entire thread. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I think that ethnic women, and women from say...oh I don't know, Brazil, are much more beautiful than American women. I gravitate towards natural, curves, sultriness- and that is present more in the International Editions than the USA Playboy.

Let people have their own opinions.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

I find the International Editions to be much better than the American version. The women are more diverse, curvier and have a sultry look to them. Not to say there aren't beautiful women in the American version, but the type of women I like to see in Playboy frequently are in French, Italian, or something other than American Playboy.

YES! Totally agree with this DV!

Marianne Michaela wrote:

even if you complete forget the size debate, then it would be her height that doesn't make her a plus size model by today's standards. she was a gorgeous and very curvacious woman. really, I don't know why this is such a big deal...

It's a big deal because this guy is a stubborn tool. I feel bad for his significant other if he has one.

Marianne Michaela wrote:

extremely weird comparisons... different people like different things, different cultures find different things attractive. playboy has to differentiate to fit the needs of the culture it is targetting. that's basic marketing, it has nothing to do the mayflower

+1

Michael Bots wrote:

Fluvia Lacerda
Height: 5’8” / 172 cm
Size: European 48 (US 16?)
Measurements: 43-35-48” / 109-89-122 cm

Lots of photos at   
http://www.skinnyvscurvy.com/hot-models … cerda.html

and of course Google image search --

I thought this had somethin' ta do with "scurvy"  .  .  . 

SOS

sosdezign wrote:
Miss "K" is thinkin' of submitting to PB, I told her ta go ahead and send away  .  .  .  ya never know what they're lookin' for, or when  .  .  .

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/1 … 8f73_m.jpg  18+

.  .  .  she's in great shape, is curvy, and a hoot ta shoot with  .  .  . 

SOS

her body is perfect to me, gorgeous sexy woman!

Marianne Michaela wrote:

her body is perfect to me, gorgeous sexy woman!

Couldn't agree more, she also has a very supportive husband, so I guess it's her call at this point  .  .  . 

SOS

sosdezign wrote:

I thought this had somethin' ta do with "scurvy"  .  .  . 

SOS

Ugh why would some one pay money to buy a photo of a plump woman like this when the next magazine has some rare exquisite slender beauty?  I hate that this culture celebrates undisciplined  over eaters

Miss Anthrope 1007 wrote:

It's definitely easy to see why they used her in their mag ;-)

BOTERO

Mark wrote:

Ugh why would some one pay money to buy a photo of a plump woman like this when the next magazine has some rare exquisite slender beauty?  I hate that this culture celebrates undisciplined  over eaters

oh geez......Here we go again..

Cherilyn Fontaine wrote:

Marilyn wore an 8 at her smallest and darn near a 16 at her biggest and her dresses and measurements are on display as proof to her stats...or just use the internet
xoxo

It's called vanity sizing, love.

At her smallest she had a 23 inch waist, which many size 0 (US) girls have. Granted, her boobs and hips would have kept her from ever being a size 0, but she was NOT an 8 at her smallest.

Mark wrote:
Ugh why would some one pay money to buy a photo of a plump woman like this when the next magazine has some rare exquisite slender beauty?  I hate that this culture celebrates undisciplined  over eaters

look, you are entitled to your opinion, and it is obvious different men like different bodytypes. I'm not under the illusion that every man on the planet will think Fluvia is hot.

But the people at playboy are not idiots either, it's not like they said "you know what? let's put a plus size model in there, we'll see how it goes". if they thought it would affect their salesnumbers in a negative way, they would not have done it.

so okay, you don't like this bodytype, and you would not buy this playboy because of it. that's perfectly fine. But this is a thread to celebrate that this woman made it into playboy, and the way you voiced your opinion was rude.

why come across as an unintelligent ass, when you could have just as easily said nothing?

Marianne Michaela wrote:

look, you are entitled to your opinion, and it is obvious different men like different bodytypes. I'm not under the illusion that every man on the planet will think Fluvia is hot.

But the people at playboy are not idiots either, it's not like they said "you know what? let's put a plus size model in there, we'll see how it goes". if they thought it would affect their salesnumbers in a negative way, they would not have done it.

so okay, you don't like this bodytype, and you would not buy this playboy because of it. that's perfectly fine. But this is a thread to celebrate that this woman made it into playboy, and the way you voiced your opinion was rude.

why come across as an unintelligent ass, when you could have just as easily said nothing?

Because it's the easiest way for us to tell who we do and don't want to work with.

K I C K H A M wrote:

Because it's the easiest way for us to tell who we do and don't want to work with.

there are other threads for that . or put it up on your profile.
it would be like walking into one of the many threads about cats here on mayhem and saying "I hate cats. cats are stupid and disgusting. why buy a cat when you can get an awesome dog?". I mean, come on, it's a thread about cats, if you don't like cats that's fine, but there's no need in posting that. go post in one of the dog threads

Mark wrote:
Ugh why would some one pay money to buy a photo of a plump woman like this when the next magazine has some rare exquisite slender beauty?  I hate that this culture celebrates undisciplined  over eaters

Are you a troll?

I mean.. it sure sounds like it.

one can be curvy and plump without over eating.. And to answer your question... *I* would buy this edition of Playboy many more (as stated in this thread) would too.

ETA:
Did she get naked in Playboy?
I am sure people think that's a "dumb question" but it wouldn't be the first time Playboy used a model and negotiated "implieds only" (e.g. Heidi Pratt)

So I was wondering if she was another "exception to the rule".

Fiera Photography wrote:

Are you a troll?

I mean.. it sure sounds like it.

one can be curvy and plump without over eating.. And to answer your question... *I* would buy this edition of Playboy many more (as stated in this thread) would too.

ETA:
Did she get naked in Playboy?
I am sure people think that's a "dumb question" but it wouldn't be the first time Playboy used a model and negotiated "implieds only" (e.g. Heidi Pratt)

So I was wondering if she was another "exception to the rule".

I have no idea actually. i've been looking for other pictures, but maybe it's just the one. I have the model on my facebook, maybe I could ask her