Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > What happened to plastic model kits?

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-Koa-

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Castaner, Puerto Rico, US

I was participating in the current thread, "Has electronics died as a hobby?". The discussion, talking about putting electronics together made me think about plastic model kits.

What ever happened to them?

You could find model kits everywhere. Car kits, boats, army, sci-fi, you name it, they were at practically any store you visited.

I remember building the Batmobile and the Starship Enterprise. That one came with all the wiring so it lit up. I built superhero kit's, ships and cars. The last one's a put together were based on Robotech.

I want to introduce my 11 year old son to model kit building. I guess the only place to find them now is online, and even then!

Remember taking the parts off the frame they came on? Plastic cement, Testor paints, placing the decals in the water and crossing your fingers that they did not float off the paper and stick to itself? Filing and sanding the parts of excess plastic.

Yes, it was a chore. But once you had the finished product, wow! What an accomplishment!

Anybody still do that or has it become a lost art?

That was way more fun than video games of today.

I'm telling ya, the kids of today are missing soooo much! What a shame!

-Koa-

May 15 11 06:57 am Link

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SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Model kits sucked



You can find them online if you want them

May 15 11 06:59 am Link

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Cait Chan

Posts: 6272

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

There's a little place by me called Herb's Hobby Shop, and they have an entire freaking ROOM of plastic models. They have fantasy stuff ( dragons, castles), trains, planes, even gundam robots ( I wanna start getting into building those ^_^)

http://catalog.herbshobbiesandcrafts.co … p?cPath=25

You can buy stuff directly off their site

May 15 11 07:00 am Link

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-Koa-

Posts: 5250

Castaner, Puerto Rico, US

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Model kits sucked



You can find them online if you want them

Oh my God! You must have terrible patience with that kind of response! But I hear ya. Those things tested your patience to the max!

Funny answer!

-Koa-

May 15 11 07:01 am Link

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Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4185

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

No shortage of shops in the UK

May 15 11 07:05 am Link

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ArtisticPhotography

Posts: 7699

Buffalo, New York, US

Plus, you get all of that glue to sniff.

You'll be the hero of your local huffers!

May 15 11 07:18 am Link

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Steven Anthony

Posts: 19455

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

-Koa- wrote:
I was participating in the current thread, "Has electronics died as a hobby?". The discussion, talking about putting electronics together made me think about plastic model kits.

What ever happened to them?

You could find model kits everywhere. Car kits, boats, army, sci-fi, you name it, they were at practically any store you visited.

I remember building the Batmobile and the Starship Enterprise. That one came with all the wiring so it lit up. I built superhero kit's, ships and cars. The last one's a put together were based on Robotech.

I want to introduce my 11 year old son to model kit building. I guess the only place to find them now is online, and even then!

Remember taking the parts off the frame they came on? Plastic cement, Testor paints, placing the decals in the water and crossing your fingers that they did not float off the paper and stick to itself? Filing and sanding the parts of excess plastic.

Yes, it was a chore. But once you had the finished product, wow! What an accomplishment!

Anybody still do that or has it become a lost art?

That was way more fun than video games of today.

I'm telling ya, the kids of today are missing soooo much! What a shame!

-Koa-

Get them online or in a hobby store.

May 15 11 07:29 am Link

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FKVPhotography

Posts: 30064

Ocala, Florida, US

I see model kits all over the place...however for the real quality kits it's places like the Hobby Lobby that carry a nice line of kits. Plus you can find them on line in infinite number.

I used to love building car models back in H.S......I'd super detail them with plug wires, brake cables, opening doors, uphostelery the works.....took me weeks and weeks of building just one kit.

Kids today, if my grandkids are the example, don't have the patience. Electronic games give an immediate response. I find it sad becasue it taught me so many things.....like patience for one.

May 15 11 07:29 am Link

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ArtisticPhotography

Posts: 7699

Buffalo, New York, US

FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:
Kids today, if my grandkids are the example, don't have the patience. Electronic games give an immediate response. I find it sad becasue it taught me so many things.....like patience for one.

I think iPod has an AP for it.

May 15 11 07:49 am Link

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StromePhoto

Posts: 922

Kalamazoo, Michigan, US

I used to love to work on models of WW II era military vehicles and airplanes.  My favorite ones were from a Japanese company called Tamiya, and their line was pretty extensive and the models were nicely detailed.  As the OP said, it seemed that model kits were available in more places, but now it seems that they are relegated to specialty stores.   I was in Hobby Lobby recently and was shocked at how pricey the kits are these days.  I'm guessing that it has something to do with the fact that the plastic is a petroleum product, but I also realize that I when I was buying the kits it was over 30 years ago.

I just might indulge myself in a second childhood and built a Spitfire or P 51 Mustang kit one of these days.

May 15 11 08:10 am Link

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CBR Photography

Posts: 45

Seattle, Washington, US

Model kits have suffered from a confluence of issues. In the 1950s & 60s, kit manufacturers had incredible support from the companies that produced the full size subjects. So when a kit company wanted to make a model of a Ford Galaxy, Ford would provide all sorts of help. Now, there is no assistance from the manufacturers, and instead there's licensing fees. Even worse, race car models not only have to get licensing from the car manufacturer, but also from the race organization and all the sponsors that are emblazoned on the car.

One of the reasons for that early support from manufacturers was that model making helped teach a skill set that could be adapted to the workplace. All of those companies needed patternmakers, assembly workers, etc., and model building helped develop spatial reasoning and toolwork. As manufacturing became more automated and computer design overtook conventional patternmaking, the skill set brought about by model building was no longer one worth developing.

At that same time, modelers who embraced the hobby began pushing for greater variety and more realism in their model kits. Where a model from the 1960s might have 40 parts, model kits nowadays can easily have ten times that, if not more. The push for greater variety led to more companies creating model kits. In the 1960s, there were perhaps a dozen model kit companies. Now that number is in the hundreds. With that kind of competition, these companies are not able to produce the quantities they did in the past. A kit run in the 1960s could be several hundred thousand units; now those numbers are in the tens of thousands. Because there are fewer units produced, plus the increased complexity due to the rise in detail, the kit company has to increase the per-item cost to recoup their development and production costs. Even with production in China, model kits can exceed $200.

Because of the rise in prices and huge number of kit companies, general stores cannot afford to sell model kits any more. A father walking through a store with his child is not very likely to drop $200 on a whim, and ordering from 100+ companies is just too time consuming. Because model kits have moved away from easy-access points of sale, the hobby has taken another hit. Out of sight, out of mind.

May 15 11 08:27 am Link

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976 Photography

Posts: 4599

Shreveport, Louisiana, US

When I was a kid the ceiling of my room was full of model airplanes, mostly fighter jets but I had a P-51 in there also. I remember going to my local K&B store to pick some up. Wal-Mart used to carry a lot of them too. But they are harder to find now...

May 15 11 08:35 am Link

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AndrewG

Posts: 5850

Mesa, Arizona, US

You can find them at Toy's R Us, WalMart, Target and many other stores... They arent that hard to find..

May 15 11 08:45 am Link

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Lawrence Guy

Posts: 17716

San Diego Country Estates, California, US

You might also look at paper models.  You can't get the multi-curved surfaces that you do with plastic, but they can be pretty amazing.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8XCBlkISFzE/SC_QfLho8oI/AAAAAAAAAVg/D25-CfvseTs/s400/motorbike-paper-model.jpg

https://papermodels.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/model-04.jpg

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RllGtiC-KqY/TTdB9j1W6pI/AAAAAAAAASY/fqqAEWFrC0w/s1600/Amazing+Paper+Models.jpg

May 15 11 09:08 am Link

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John Edward

Posts: 2462

Dallas, Texas, US

As a kid, I spent countless hours in the basement, building all sorts of them, mainly cars.

The last one I tried to do was a very expensive large scale kit of a Lamborghini Countach that friend gave me for Christmas. It took me two weeks to finish the engine alone. Then I figured out that for the time it was taking to build it, I could build the real car in that amount of time. Since I was building real cars for a living back then, I quit the plastic one, and went back to the real car in the garage I was doing at the time, since that paid better.

I do have to say though, building those little plastic cars, taught me a lot of skills that I still use today building big plastic cars.

May 15 11 10:28 am Link

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Light Writer

Posts: 18391

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Some of my happiest memories of childhood are of building plastic model kits with my Dad. They are still around.

May 15 11 10:31 am Link

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Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22232

Stamford, Connecticut, US

I loved building models.  When I was a kid, my dream job would have been building scale models for movies - but that's not done so much anymore.  I did a lot of scratch building for a European model railway as well as plastic kits.

I have also gotten into building wooden ship models, you might want to explore that, it's a nice option.

May 15 11 10:37 am Link

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rmcapturing

Posts: 4859

San Francisco, California, US

We use photoshop to make them look plastic nowadays. Oh, wait, not that kind of plastic model.

May 15 11 10:50 am Link

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Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

ArtisticPhotography wrote:
Plus, you get all of that glue to sniff.

This is why i loved building battleships,the most parts and the most glue you had to use
big_smile

May 15 11 10:53 am Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Model kits sucked



You can find them online if you want them

Seriously????

They rocked. I did Air Force planes, cars from the 60's, but what I really loved were my Universal Studio monster kits. Drac, Frank, Wolfie, Mum, I had them all.

Wish I still had them......one of those things some folks let go earlier in life, and wish they still had them later in life.

May 15 11 11:11 am Link

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Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22232

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Cherrystone wrote:

Seriously????

They rocked. I did Air Force planes, cars from the 60's, but what I really loved were my Universal Studio monster kits. Drac, Frank, Wolfie, Mum, I had them all.

Wish I still had them......one of those things some folks let go earlier in life, and wish they still had them later in life.

I wish I had my trains.  Those things would be worth real money today.

May 15 11 11:12 am Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

I wish I had my trains.  Those things would be worth real money today.

Ahhhhh. smile While I did sell my very cheap tin Lionel set from the early 40's, I still have my others upstairs in the attic. big_smile

May 15 11 11:23 am Link

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Chris Vinnit

Posts: 1479

Tampa, Florida, US

They have a billion of them on Amazon. 

I used to do them when I was younger but they required too much patience.  Glueing itty bitty hinge joints on my '72 Corvette just wasn't my idea of relaxing.  Plus, I was quite clumsy and would always end up with parts glued to my fingers.

I did enjoy military men.  Errr...I mean, buying an army of those little GI or Revolutionary war soldier characters and then individualizing them into an army.  I even had a regiment of Zombie Confederates at one point.  Those were really cool...

May 15 11 11:26 am Link

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FKVPhotography

Posts: 30064

Ocala, Florida, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

I wish I had my trains.  Those things would be worth real money today.

One of my businesses was a model train shop. At one time there was some serious money involve with collections. Did you know that Frank Sinatra collected trains? His collection at one time was valued in excess of FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS!!!!.....he used to send out agents and bought out entire collections. I knew a person who had a very big collection of Lionels, the preferred mfg, and sold it to Sinatra for 1.4 million!

I still have my very first train...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179680_1686471374723_1625832244_1548467_1014695_n.jpg

This was my second...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168972_1686471814734_1625832244_1548471_5668076_n.jpg

Here is my version of getting a cover...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/164540_1686468254645_1625832244_1548442_5251710_n.jpg

I also have the first run of the Lionel book "modeling trains".....it's worth quite a bit.

May 15 11 11:29 am Link

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FKVPhotography

Posts: 30064

Ocala, Florida, US

Cherrystone wrote:

Ahhhhh. smile While I did sell my very cheap tin Lionel set from the early 40's, I still have my others upstairs in the attic. big_smile

Lionel "tintypes" are worth a lot of money if they are in good shape. I own a 1938 lionel tintype...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167096_1686469894686_1625832244_1548455_3549462_n.jpg
I have the four cars that came with the set. Brand new the whole set cost $9.98!!!!....I can easily get $200-300 per car!

May 15 11 11:32 am Link

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Poses

Posts: 8139

Kansas City, Missouri, US

If there's no hobby shop in your area, try a large "arts and crafts" type store.

I bought a RC car part at a hobby store to rig something to fall down on cue (don't ask)- upon entering the store, I quickly realized that the usual customer was neither young nor female.

May 15 11 11:33 am Link

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pai

Posts: 577

San Diego, California, US

I was selling them for a bud from work and he had thousands of model kits.
The majority that sold went to texas / new york and unite kingdom.
Mostly air craft and military model kits too.

however when the economy sank, sales did too... almost to nothing!

May 15 11 11:36 am Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:

Lionel "tintypes" are worth a lot of money if they are in good shape. I own a 1938 lionel tintype...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167096_1686469894686_1625832244_1548455_3549462_n.jpg
I have the four cars that came with the set. Brand new the whole set cost $9.98!!!!....I can easily get $200-300 per car!

My thing was the most made set by Lionel circa 1940, so there are gobs of them around. Grey colored locomotive, hooks & eye type chrome car couplers. I wanna think I had 5 cars total. Got a buck fifty for them on eBay in 1998.

May 15 11 11:41 am Link

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Red Sky Photography

Posts: 3893

Germantown, Maryland, US

I have about 300 kits in the basement waiting for my retirement. Unfortunately, my eyesight is getting worse so I may not be able to build them after all.

I liked cars and motorcycles the best, some tanks and military vehicles and just a few planes. i t taught you patience, that's for sure and a nice skill in painting with an airbrush.

May 15 11 11:49 am Link

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Jerry Franklin

Posts: 466

San Antonio, Texas, US

I loved building car and miltary models as a kid. They're still out there at local and online hobby shops. Prices are through the roof, depending what you want to build. Some plane kits gor for up to $100+, and that's not including all the aftermarket photoetch parts and accessories to be had.

Here's an example of some detailing. http://www.clubhyper.com/forums/plasticpixframe.htm

Here's another with a lot of scratchbuilding. http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/ … pic=230540

May 15 11 12:42 pm Link

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STL-After-Dark

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Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Welcome to old age ... now people say things like "what's an arcade" when you talk LMAO

May 15 11 12:49 pm Link

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r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US

-Koa- wrote:
What happened to plastic model kits?

a more enviro-friendly alternative ...

https://cdn.lenski.com/conflictzen/files/fold-origami-crane.gif

May 15 11 01:28 pm Link

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Black Lace Photo

Posts: 134

Issaquah, Washington, US

You do realize that plastic model kits are merely a gateway drug leading to...

BALSA WOOD KITS!!!

That's when you trade in that sissy glue for the real thing...DOPE!!! lol

May 15 11 01:38 pm Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

But once your model airplanes burn real jet-fuel you never go back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EA2a1-wxhU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCE0vffMm5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIRe0n2mh8
This is an F-22 Rapter that is turbine powered and uses thrust vectoring. Jet Legends in China is creating the kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsfjOK_LcNE

May 15 11 05:13 pm Link

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Lawrence Guy

Posts: 17716

San Diego Country Estates, California, US

Michael Bots wrote:
But once your model airplanes burn real jet-fuel you never go back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EA2a1-wxhU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCE0vffMm5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIRe0n2mh8
This is an F-22 Rapter that is turbine powered and uses thrust vectoring. Jet Legends in China is creating the kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsfjOK_LcNE

So... the US won't export F-22s, but China will lol

May 15 11 06:48 pm Link

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291

Posts: 11911

SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US

i built quite a few when i was young, 1/32 and 1/64 scale.  also put together many slot cars, painting them on the inside one color and it showed entirely different on the outside.

one of the things that lead to lowering the popularity was the glue.  glue sniffing became a rage in the late 60's early 70's by teens and parents wouldn't allow it in the house.  it never caught my fancy but i saw some fucked up kids after they squeezed it into a paper bag and and hyperventilated with it.  not sure, but i think hobby shops still restrict sales of the glue to minors.

building models was a great pastime growing up.  you couldn't be sloppy, it took meticulous work but when that '57 chevy was complete it was a work of art to be proud of for sure.

perhaps i'll put my guitar down that i can't seem to master and stop by a hobby shop to bring that back to life...

May 15 11 08:12 pm Link

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Nyxxiiee

Posts: 1519

Denton, Texas, US

i want to build the death star big_smile and a few other pieces i love model kits

May 15 11 08:15 pm Link

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Lawrence Guy

Posts: 17716

San Diego Country Estates, California, US

Toxic Iifa wrote:
i want to build the death star big_smile and a few other pieces i love model kits

Okay, but I'd suggest something in the 1/10000 scale range.

May 15 11 08:22 pm Link

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Accidental Plateau

Posts: 7715

Brooklyn, New York, US

People had more free time back in the day.

May 15 11 08:34 pm Link

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Fur Elise

Posts: 1814

Seattle, Washington, US

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Model kits sucked



You can find them online if you want them

pffft.

Model kits rock... I'm doing the deathstar with my family right now.



@ Koa~ You can pick them up at hobby shops

May 15 11 08:39 pm Link