Sabot Images wrote:

Oh good, I am not the only one. +1

lol, i'm not really a diva :\ but i dunno. i'd still say its worth a shot. maybe if i get on and act classy i'll have more respect rather than scaring off the photographers?

Jenah Doucette
After the show, Jenah moved to New York to pursue modeling. It wasn't for her, as she writes on her MySpace page:

    ANTM did little to prepare me for modeling. Real-life, naked in a room full of strangers, "come back when you lose 20 lbs" modeling. Maybe that makes me weak. I don't think it does…. Never do I want to live a life in which I'm concerned about being a size four. Ever.

Robert Jewett wrote:

well she could of done plus size lol. i mean its not for everyone. more people should do their research rather than thinking "well im pretty so here we go!"

i mean its a HUGE industry but there are certain things for everyone.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

i've thought of this but they see so many tapes! I want to be remembered as the girl who met them in person and wowed them away you know?

90% of the girls that make it on the show never attended a casting....but they did send in a tape.

It's not possible to wow them when you walk in...you're with hundreds of other girls. Unless you walk in and set something on fire, no one is going to remember you.

Sabot Images wrote:

Good point, also check your portfolio and make sure every image shown is of great quality, poses and more fashion looks.

They care about height- they don't give two shits about  portfolio.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

I've done fashion shows before. I sort of agree but at the same time I've never had a chance to have a "strong look." i was hired for most shows because of my natural look. a lot of the agents told me i look young but i'm not sure. I myself agree with you though

You're in Oklahoma. Not the fashion capital of any world.

Hell, you can get into "fashion" shows here in NYC at 5'7. None of them are any good and are basically shit done at clubs.

Let's just say there is a fashion show and then there is a "fashion" show. There are no fashion shows in OK. Just "fashion" shows.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

90% of the girls that make it on the show never attended a casting....but they did send in a tape.

It's not possible to wow them when you walk in...you're with hundreds of other girls. Unless you walk in and set something on fire, no one is going to remember you.

this is true, but this could also go the same with tape auditions. they sit there and watch millions of tapes but unless mine wows them it won't be remembered either i'm just saying i'm better at actual auditions than sending in a tape begging them along with 36473657657653684 other girls to be on the show. I'm good with presence more so than filming myself.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

this is true, but this could also go the same with tape auditions. they sit there and watch millions of tapes but unless mine wows them it won't be remembered either i'm just saying i'm better at actual auditions than sending in a tape begging them along with 36473657657653684 other girls to be on the show. I'm good with presence more so than filming myself.

90% of the girls that made it on sent in a tape

That is all the information you need.

I work extensively in reality television. I know exactly what the casting directors want. You will have zero chance to show them that you might have what they want if you go to a casting. Zero.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

You're in Oklahoma. Not the fashion capital of any world.

Hell, you can get into "fashion" shows here in NYC at 5'7. None of them are any good and are basically shit done at clubs.

Let's just say there is a fashion show and then there is a "fashion" show. There are no fashion shows in OK. Just "fashion" shows.

I've done some in LA as well. i go back in forth, or at least i did until mom got ill. i'm trying to start back up but i want to do more NY things now to be taken seriously. I started just by being in friends clothing line shows, didn't really take it seriously kind of just modeled to have something to do but now I've really looked into and want to venture more with it and see what i can do. I do agree with you on that though. and its a bit unfortunate for a lot of other young people who actually have what it takes because really the only agencies we have here are modeling "schools" if you know what i mean. then they get burned off money and think the entire industry is a scam. but yes i know what you mean.

Greg Kolack wrote:
However, in person you have a much better chance to act like a diva bitch from hell, which may be exactly what they are looking for...

Here's how their castings work (even when you're scouted)-

You are shuffled into a waiting room with the misfits of the world. You will either be brought into a room with 50 other girls where you will say your name, age, height and hometown in order to the camera. They instruct the girls not to give an attitude, and to just give their name, age, height and hometown. Girls that try to be cute or bitchy are removed immediately.

They narrow it down to up to 3 girls who will move to the next round.

In the next round (which sometimes when you're scouted you will go right to) you will be asked to wear a swimsuit, do a runway walk and tell the camera "why you are America's Next Top Model" and why you would be "good for a reality show".

Getting to the second round is extremely difficult.

Send in a tape and get picked? Flight to LA and immediate casting director meeting.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:
okay well since i am around 5'7, im between it and 5'6 but much closer to 5'7 do you think i should change my height?

If you make it to the second round, they will measure you.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

90% of the girls that made it on sent in a tape

That is all the information you need.

I work extensively in reality television. I know exactly what the casting directors want. You will have zero chance to show them that you might have what they want if you go to a casting. Zero.

i'd give you a big hug if i could lol. this has helped me a lot. i'll try and see. basically really though i just want to know if i get on there will still be taken seriously. i know a lot of things on your model record can hold you back, is this show one of them?

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

i'd give you a big hug if i could lol. this has helped me a lot. i'll try and see. basically really though i just want to know if i get on there will still be taken seriously. i know a lot of things on your model record can hold you back, is this show one of them?

Don't worry about bridges you are not in the vicinity of.

But since you asked....every single reality show is what you make of it. I'm very good friends with someone over at ANTM, and he and I have had this conversation before. Basically, if you know how to use it, it can be positive.

Reality is a whole different world. So many people think they can do it....no one has any idea what it's really about until they work in it. It will blow your mind.

Daniela Victoria wrote:

Here's how their castings work (even when you're scouted)-

You are shuffled into a waiting room with the misfits of the world. You will either be brought into a room with 50 other girls where you will say your name, age, height and hometown in order to the camera. They instruct the girls not to give an attitude, and to just give their name, age, height and hometown. Girls that try to be cute or bitchy are removed immediately.

They narrow it down to up to 3 girls who will move to the next round.

In the next round (which sometimes when you're scouted you will go right to) you will be asked to wear a swimsuit, do a runway walk and tell the camera "why you are America's Next Top Model" and why you would be "good for a reality show".

Getting to the second round is extremely difficult.

Send in a tape and get picked? Flight to LA and immediate casting director meeting.

just now saw this one. WOW, i'm starting to reconsider. but i'm not bad on turn downs. i'll probably do both if thats not against the rules. you have helped me so much! i'm starting to think though that i'd have better chances, luck, and gigs if i just submitted to an agency myself rather than this

Daniela Victoria wrote:

Don't worry about bridges you are not in the vicinity of.

But since you asked....every single reality show is what you make of it. I'm very good friends with someone over at ANTM, and he and I have had this conversation before. Basically, if you know how to use it, it can be positive.

Reality is a whole different world. So many people think they can do it....no one has any idea what it's really about until they work in it. It will blow your mind.

thats EXACTLY what i was thinking myself! it's one thing to get on there and act classy, i think that could work in someone favor. but it's going to be hard for you to do ANYTHING if your the psycho diva going nuts. right?

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

just now saw this one. WOW, i'm starting to reconsider. but i'm not bad on turn downs. i'll probably do both if thats not against the rules. you have helped me so much! i'm starting to think though that i'd have better chances, luck, and gigs if i just submitted to an agency myself rather than this

It depends what you want to do.

If you want to work with an agency and be a legit model, don't bother with ANTM.

If you want reality show fame, and you're willing to put in the work it requires, then give every single show a shot.

I will say this- you should read www.newmodels.com and get as much info. as you can from there. Never try to market yourself as the exception to the rule. Frankly, there are tons of 5'9, rail thin girls in NYC that will get the jobs first. The fashion industry doesn't need an exception.

There is a genre of modeling for everyone. You have to be realistic though.

Daniela Victoria wrote:
It depends what you want to do.

If you want to work with an agency and be a legit model, don't bother with ANTM.

If you want reality show fame, and you're willing to put in the work it requires, then give every single show a shot.

I will say this- you should read www.newmodels.com and get as much info. as you can from there. Never try to market yourself as the exception to the rule. Frankly, there are tons of 5'9, rail thin girls in NYC that will get the jobs first. The fashion industry doesn't need an exception.

There is a genre of modeling for everyone. You have to be realistic though.

that helped me A LOT! I am so glad you've told me this. i'm going to try everything honestly. like i said im not bad at turn downs and i know i'm not the tallest girl either. i'm going to work with what i have, i have high hopes for me as a model, not a type model you know? i know i'll never do runway but i want to do print anyways. i'm just glad i found all this out before i blew it on america's next top model. that was my main concert honestly because i don't want to mess up my chances of modeling in general with some crack tv show :p

Robert Jewett wrote:

This is a great page to see if anything came out of appearing on the show. http://antm411.wordpress.com/

Daniela Victoria wrote:

They care about height- they don't give two shits about  portfolio.

Think what you want but

Reality TV World: How were you cast on America's Next Top Model and was it your first time applying for the show?

Monique Weingart: It was my first time applying for the show. I was on a website called Model Mayhem and my friend Amy -- well I call them my friends now because I love them -- but Amy and Tee had found me on there and invited me to the private audition in Chicago.

I was like, 'Hell yeah!' I always told myself that if I ever have an opportunity to try out for the show, I knew I would take it, but I would look for the auditions online, and I could never find anything. So when they contacted me, I was like, 'Oh my God! Yeah, I'll go!' I just did really well in every interview and I made it!

George Ruge wrote:
Didn't a dude make it like 1/2 way through a season once??
I have watched some of the photo sessions, they are amazing sometimes, under water, fantastic makeup themes...
At least it's not as bad as idol with people who should have looked in a MIRROR before going downtown and making a FOOL of themselves!!!;-))))

i think there was a guy in next top model Italy. if not it i do know for sure there was one in another country. oh my gosh, idol is the worst!! at least they all look good once they've won!/lost! they've got to go through the machine :p

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

Thats what i was thinking. I honestly haven't really seen many of the girls from that show in ads. do you think they would of done better by just going to the angencies themselves?

Adrianne Curry is on MM..

you could ask her..

Nikki Magnusson wrote:

Adrianne Curry is on MM..

you could ask her..

She is the Loudest of the people AGAINST the show , she is the one who will just repeat was has been said Several times before!

Escalante wrote:
She is the Loudest of the people AGAINST the show , she is the one who will just repeat was has been said Several times before!

yup..and she was a winner on the show..

Escalante wrote:

She is the Loudest of the people AGAINST the show , she is the one who will just repeat was has been said Several times before!

yeah i saw her on the E! True Hollywood Story about ANTM and she pretty much ripped them a new one. I've actually been thinking about that. she said yeah that she won but she had to do everything herself and that the contract was a bs one and the show didn't do shit for her :\

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

yeah i saw her on the E! True Hollywood Story about ANTM and she pretty much ripped them a new one. I've actually been thinking about that. she said yeah that she won but she had to do everything herself and that the contract was a bs one and the show didn't do shit for her :\

yup..

Sabot Images wrote:

Think what you want but

Think what I want?

Nope- I know what I know.

It's best to leave the advice to people in the know...not the people guessing...

George Ruge wrote:
At least it's not as bad as idol with people who should have looked in a MIRROR before going downtown and making a FOOL of themselves!!!;-))))

Many of the auditioners for Idol are planted.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

yeah i saw her on the E! True Hollywood Story about ANTM and she pretty much ripped them a new one. I've actually been thinking about that. she said yeah that she won but she had to do everything herself and that the contract was a bs one and the show didn't do shit for her :\

Doing everything for yourself is typical with every single reality show.

Once you're done with the show, your 15 minutes can be over very quickly. You have to know what to do with it and how to handle it. You have to be smart as hell.

Lindsay Ryan wrote:
sooo a friend and I were thinking of auditioning for America's Next Top Model next month when they come to our city. I want to know, is it a joke to you or do they really go on to do better things? Is this show bad or good for an upcoming model?

If you made it on the show...the Exposure would not hurt you and only be a benefit. In the U.S. almost any form of fame can lead to big a paycheck if you know how to milk it. Look at the people on reality shows that have careers manifest out of nowhere and make quite a bit of money.

So it does not matter if it's a joke or not, if you have any fame or recognition you will get more work than if you had not. It might not be the same high fashion work, but getting paid $10K for a night to host a party at a night club does not suck all that bad.

Just have fun do what you want and never listen to haters that want to slam everything. If you have a shot take it!

Lindsay Ryan wrote:

thats what i was thinking too but if it's a joke than it could end up really badly. I just want to know if models from that show are taken seriously or if that show kind of sets them back :\ I want to do it, but only if it doesn't affect my modeling career

There's different areas in modelling and everyone seems to just notice the high fashion ads, commercial work gets the most money!! if you look at vogue Italia they have had quite a few models from antm
toccara mostly does presenting which I've notice
eva acting and beauty work
while the others I've noticed have done work for boutique brands that are big in other countries!!
take a chance and go for it....

Lindsay Ryan wrote:
yeah i saw her on the E! True Hollywood Story about ANTM and she pretty much ripped them a new one. I've actually been thinking about that. she said yeah that she won but she had to do everything herself and that the contract was a bs one and the show didn't do shit for her :\

An yet somehow you're still thinking it is a good idea?

Seriously, don't waste your time or attention pursuing it, unless your real goal is to be on a "reality" tv show, because it will not help you get a career in modeling.

Sabot Images wrote:
If you are afraid of trying something new then you are wasting your youth. If you do not try out then you will always wonder "what if"? What is the worst that could happen, they say no. If they say yes then you have a chance to get some really good photos, free trip, experience, have some fun and maybe win.

I would love to hear from people who actually have experience working in the fashion and modeling industry in New York, LA, Paris, or Milan.

just my 2 cents but I think you should go for it!

For this situation, this really isn't good advice.  ANTM is not a good opportunity, even if you do somehow get on the show.  It's a waste of your time.  It's good to take chances and try out opportunities, but not when you know that the consequences are not going to benefit you and may possibly be detrimental.

The castings are a joke and a waste of time.  I've heard from past girls on the show that there are cameras everywhere- even in the bathroom.  Also they edit the footage to make the girls look as crazy and bitchy as possible.