Photographer
Robert Sawin
Posts: 6740
Carlsbad, California, US
Dario Western wrote:
A creepy photographer IMHO is one who:
*touches a model other than on the shoulder or shaking her hand
*tells inappropriate jokes during a shoot
*makes lascivious comments about a model's breasts, backside and/or genital area
*looks at models funny
*has bad hygeine and doesn't dress nicely
*generally makes a model feel uncomfortable during a shoot
*asks intrusive questions about a model's personal life *touches a model other than on the shoulder or shaking her hand
I have to do this some times. did it yesterday on a shoot. Some times I have to get her positioned or help her to get what ever. like I needed to brush her hair that sorta thing
*tells inappropriate jokes during a shoot
Jokes make the day go faster. If a joke works it works
*has bad hygeine and doesn't dress nicely
well excuse me mr neet. I can't tell you how many productions I was all scruffy on cause I did not have the chance to take care of my self because of the production.
*asks intrusive questions about a model's personal life
Do this all the time. getting to know your subjects is paramount and I consider this a part of the photography process. Plus this is the business of people we are not robots or real dolls for that matter. lol
Model
Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
No, I've shot with probably hundreds of different photographers. I've encountered a grand total of maybe 4 creeps.
These two were definitely creepy:
One of them was creepy because he pulled his penis out of his pants, and asked me to have sex with him.
Another was creepy because he tried to touch my crotch.
These two were least creepy, arguably so:
Another was creepy because he lived in a disgusting apartment, with overflowing trash cans, and rotting chicken bones everywhere in kitchen, and pans of stinking, unemptied grease. The toilet in the bathroom would not flush. I had to shoot there for 4 hours.
The only other one that was creepy to me hired me for art nudes, then kept asking me to touch myself for photos. He never actually tried to touch me, and was not crude. He just wanted softcore porn without having to actually shell out for an adult content model.
I've been modeling since 2005, and have only actually encountered four, real creepers. Everyone else has been fine. Some were eccentric, some had poor social skills, but that did not make them creepy. I even had a guy, in 2008, ask if he could take his clothing off, because he was a Naturist and preferred to be naked when outdoors. Honestly, that didn't even creep me out, because he was pretty respectful about it, and was apparently very involved in nudist culture. I didn't really care.
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
Some were eccentric, some had poor social skills, but that did not make them creepy. YEP!! Most artists are a bit eccentric, that doesn't make them creepy - unless the photographer keeps repeating "it must put the lotion on it's skin..."
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
to me a glamour shoot with a model is so not a traditional workplace. lol. on our last shoot we were joking about how we were all going to burn in hell and then we went back to creating images that would definitely get us an invitation. and some of the models are a lot raunchier than me! now with paying boudoir customers it's a different story and usually very professional. Rae Johnston wrote:
*Inappropriate comments that would have you sued in a traditional workplace.
Photographer
Robert Sawin
Posts: 6740
Carlsbad, California, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
Some were eccentric, some had poor social skills, but that did not make them creepy. I wish more models thought like you did. 
Model
Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
YEP!! Most artists are a bit eccentric, that doesn't make them creepy - unless the photographer keeps repeating "it must put the lotion on it's skin..." There's a point where an eccentric behavior does become creepy, but that's pretty far over the edge, at least for most things.
There is a New England photographer (not on MM) I've met a few times, whom I suspect has an autism spectrum diagnosis. His social skills aren't great, and he often makes comments that are not nice, or inappropriate (not in a sexual way, but in a P.C. kind of way). He isn't creepy, just challenging to interact with.
Model
Mel Wolfe
Posts: 158
Old Field, New York, US
Chris Adval wrote:
BE HONEST?
Give your definition of a creep, or/and what are your turn off's.
Would you judge a photographer being a creep because...
- they're not physically attractive?
- they have bad taste in fashion?
- bad (not "cool" expensive) car/vehicle?
- too much information on the photo-shoot?
- make you read a lot?
- too serious into photography?
- talks too much?
- has a home studio?
- too well organized? More like when they tell you too much about their personal life with their wife who they are divorcing, then ask you out on a date once their divorce is pending, especially with a 17 year age gap.
Model
Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Melissa Wolferd wrote:
.... then ask you out on a date once their divorce is pending, especially with a 17 year age gap. If you're over 18, then asking you out would be unprofessional, but I disagree with it being creepy. The individual being older than you, and the amount of age difference, has NOTHING to do with it, since many people do date outside their age bracket commonly.
Unprofessional, yes. Creepy? Not necessarily.
Model
Renee Mae Lynn
Posts: 148
Orlando, Florida, US
The OP didn't contain anything I would find too creepy. I have had a slightly "creepy" experience with an unnamed photog who wanted to rub oil on my skin himself. I'm kinda serious about my personal space (give me 3 feet please!) and was put off a bit. But he also had some social issues including harping on miniscule imperfections he could not wait to fix in photoshop. PLEASE photographers, I NEVER want to see myself x100!! Gross! Now I'm scarred for life.... 
Model
Mel Wolfe
Posts: 158
Old Field, New York, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
If you're over 18, then asking you out would be unprofessional, but I disagree with it being creepy. The individual being older than you, and the amount of age difference, has NOTHING to do with it, since many people do date outside their age bracket commonly.
Unprofessional, yes. Creepy? Not necessarily. Personally to me...its creepy. To each their own but this is my opinion of the situation I was in.
Im well over 18, what he did was unprofessional but from my own morals, considering I don't date anyone with such an age difference, is creepy. So yes, to me the individual being older then me and the age difference does have something to do with it. Thats how I feel.
If someone wants to date someone older then them, I give them all the respect in the world, but its not for me. I find it creepy. But like I said, thats my opinion, I respect yours but I don't agree with it.
Model
liindsay ann
Posts: 1861
Cleveland, Ohio, US
I kinda feel bad for older men who plan on getting into photography.. bc they are assumed to be GWCs instantly.. some of them actually have intentions of doing well..
But -- There was one older man who hired me monthly for shoots. To me it seemed like he thought pictures were better with minimal clothing even though my face and the lighting was totally off.. He would get some unflattering angles but you got to see more, and then he asked me to move in, and offered to pay me whatever for nudes and that he won't put them up. -- then I stopped shooting with him lol
Model
Er00
Posts: 282
Royal Leamington Spa, England, United Kingdom
Melissa Wolferd wrote:
Personally to me...its creepy. To each their own but this is my opinion of the situation I was in.
Im well over 18, what he did was unprofessional but from my own morals, considering I don't date anyone with such an age difference, is creepy. So yes, to me the individual being older then me and the age difference does have something to do with it. Thats how I feel.
If someone wants to date someone older then them, I give them all the respect in the world, but its not for me. I find it creepy. But like I said, thats my opinion, I respect yours but I don't agree with it. But...did the photographer necessarily *know* that you felt this way about it? I don't think ignorance is creepy, unless you told him and he persisted.
I mostly have a fairly high "creepiness" threshold, and it's never been crossed by anyone I met while modeling. I have certain social issues, and I sometimes feel a little awkward in that respect, but never because the other person is *making* me feel that way!
Model
Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Er00 wrote:
But...did the photographer necessarily *know* that you felt this way about it? I don't think ignorance is creepy, unless you told him and he persisted. This is basically what I was trying to say.
It's unprofessional, definitely, but "creepiness" often seems to carry implication of someone being physically threatening.
Photographer
joephotonyc
Posts: 790
Phoenix, Arizona, US
I had a model ask me permission to touch me as we were discussing the torso eand she wanted to point something out on my torso.
So professionalism cuts both ways.
I guess if we photographers didn't have to deal with hair that does not a fall correctly when doing a shot of the back .
Or tuck in the dam labels on most every style of clothing, we would have no reason to have physical contact.
I had a model ask me clip the top clip on a bra . Mind you, I was as nervous as a politician in front of a lie detector LOL
I think its all about trust and respect.
Photographer
RGKBoston
Posts: 3765
Salem, Massachusetts, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
One of them was creepy because he pulled his penis out of his pants, and asked me to have sex with him. I hope you started laughing and pointing at it while saying, "No....not with THAT thing...."
Model
Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
RGKBoston wrote:
I hope you started laughing and pointing at it while saying, "No....not with THAT thing...." I didn't really know what to do. I pretended it wasn't happening, and refused to look down.
Model
RandiiKae
Posts: 2
Saint Cloud, Minnesota, US
What I find creepy is when they use strange terms for normal things. I was shooting implied with a photographer and he goes dont worry if your mommy parts are showing. I was like MOMMY PARTS?! Call them what they are boobs.
Model
Mel Wolfe
Posts: 158
Old Field, New York, US
ShivaKitty wrote:
This is basically what I was trying to say.
It's unprofessional, definitely, but "creepiness" often seems to carry implication of someone being physically threatening. Unfortunately...the photographer did know I felt like this. I can understand we all joke around, we flirt. Human Nature. BUT the photographer did know the first time he mentioned about me being his "wing woman" because he was "newly single, need to get back into the mix" That I was seeing someone, and underage (20) So I polietly said "I don't think my boyfriend would appreciate it, although its flattering but Im under 21, grab a guy friend and hit the bars! Have fun!"
And then once his divorce was pending I was messaged with "You wouldnt be interested in dating an old guy like me, divorced with two kids would ya? " And I stated that my feelings hadn't changed since the same topic was adressed. he let it die down. When a model friend of mine messaged me saying how he asked her to a "romantic dinner" at his apartment for his birthday (my friend is 19 and has a boyfriend, which he knew all this) She called me right away. Thats when I cut ties.
THATS why I became creeped out. Other then that...I can handle alot lol
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Melissa Wolferd wrote:
Personally to me...its creepy. To each their own but this is my opinion of the situation I was in.
Im well over 18, what he did was unprofessional but from my own morals, considering I don't date anyone with such an age difference, is creepy. So yes, to me the individual being older then me and the age difference does have something to do with it. Thats how I feel.
If someone wants to date someone older then them, I give them all the respect in the world, but its not for me. I find it creepy. But like I said, thats my opinion, I respect yours but I don't agree with it. My younger daughter is your age, so yea, I would find it creepy to even date a 21 year old. If a model is into older photographers, she will let let them know.
Model
Rachel Jay
Posts: 20441
Nashville, Tennessee, US
I'm going to kinda go backwards here... Chris Adval wrote:
Would you judge a photographer being a creep because... - they're not physically attractive? Doesn't matter to me. I'm happily married.
- they have bad taste in fashion? I don't care. Besides, what one shoots in and what one wears when not shooting is likely different.
Now, if we're talking about the photographer putting together an outfit for a shoot that sucks, that's a little different. I might try it on and see if it works and/or see if we can make adjustments to make it work. In other cases, I might just turn it down (politely) altogether. It largely would depend on the situation and the outfit presented.
But putting together a shitty outfit for a shoot doesn't make someone a creep.
- bad (not "cool" expensive) car/vehicle? As long as the vehicle is reliable, I don't care what it is.
- too much information on the photo-shoot? This is kinda vague. TMI about one's personal life, sexual fantasies, or health issues is a bit odd.
- make you read a lot? Huh? I'm assuming you mean that their messages are long and wordy. But really, I don't care, generally. As long as the important stuff is easy to find and not buried in a bunch of BS, then it doesn't matter.
- too serious into photography? Don't care.
- talks too much? As long as they shoot while they talk, I don't care. If they don't shoot while they talk, I might say "hey, let's do what we're here to do" and encourage them to shoot. But I don't think this is creepy.
- has a home studio? No. Not creepy. I blogged about this... link below.
- too well organized? If this were creepy, when it comes to shoots, I'd be a major creep.
Chris Adval wrote:
Give your definition of a creep, or/and what are your turn off's. "Creepy" is so vague and subjective. Sometimes, it's the only way to describe something, but it's still... not the right way to describe it (I know, that doesn't make any sense). I can't really give a proper definition, because it would be something like "someone or something that gives me the creeps". But what are "the creeps"? Yea...  Anyway...
Some of my turn offs are:
- Rants about models in profile
- Insulting people I’ve worked with and/or images in my portfolio
- Insisting we shoot something I’ve no desire to shoot, even after I turn it down
- Telling me I have to shoot X with them because I shot it with someone else
- Insisting I bring an escort & lecturing me when I opt not to bring one
- Changing shoot details at the last minute (i.e. “oh by the way, there are going to be 3 other photographers there, cool?”)
- Complaining about the wardrobe I brought, after providing no guidance as to what to bring
- Insisting that now that we’re “comfortable together” we can shoot something I’ve no interest in shooting/am not comfortable shooting
My full list of deal-breakers is here: http://racheljay.wordpress.com/2010/06/ … -breakers/
My home studio blog: http://racheljay.wordpress.com/2008/10/ … me-studio/
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Emily Maddison wrote:
I dont care about any of the things OP mentioned, heck I've had a bikie with a crap car and digital camera pick me up, as long as they are respectful, I'm happy.
For me, its touching without permission, acting very nervous, talking way too much about complete crap. Sexual comments towards me, asking to do things I'm not comfortable with.
facebook.com/TheOfficialEmilyMaddison Ah, hell. I talk all the time, and some would probably consider the topics "complete crap." And if I thought everything I said was being judged, I'd probably be nervous.
Photographer
Louie Neira
Posts: 520
Austin, Texas, US
I've been called creepy by people who don't even know me, based on my portfolio/glamour/nude work. Suffice to say, the nature of what I do makes people with small-town minds instantly suspicious.
It's curious because while the only ones who think I'm creepy have never worked with me, the models who have posed for me - nude, semi-nude or clothed - have all praised me for my professionalism and quality of my work.
While I do have sexual thoughts while I'm shooting (I'm only human), I keep them to myself. In the past, erections were indeed an issue, but that was due more to my inability to control my reactions. In took quite some time, but when I would feel one coming on, I concentrated on my photography (settings, poses, etc.) even more until I learned how to control them.
However, the good thing about all these natural reactions to seeing a beautiful nude girl/woman in front of me was that able to transpose those feelings and pose my subjects in ways that were sexually attractive, but not too provocative. It was during this time I learned how to truly respect my model. I learned how to appreciate their physical beauty and sexuality while not becoming a part of it.
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15973
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom
Never confuse eccentric for creep.
Photographer
Shaun Gour
Posts: 13
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
DoubleDare Studios wrote:
Hmm...I never popped wood on a shoot. However, I'm new to model shooting and the images you see in my port are of my wife...that probably has something to do with it. lol
um...she can't read this, right!? Sorry, had to comment! You made me laugh really hard (again no pun intended) here.
Model
Raquel Rayne
Posts: 1186
New York, New York, US
Plain and simple for me: awkward and unnecessary comments regarding body parts, sex, or their past/current relationship problems.
"Don't take this the wrong way, but you've got a GREAT butt."
"Can I take you out to dinner after the shoot?"
etc.
These are things that I could do without, and even if they didn't necessarily entail a bad shoot, it will make me think twice about working with a particular photographer in the future.
Photographer
si-mo
Posts: 32
Lausanne, Vaud, Switzerland
DoubleDare Studios wrote:
Hmm...I never popped wood on a shoot. However, I'm new to model shooting and the images you see in my port are of my wife...that probably has something to do with it. lol
um...she can't read this, right!? :-) lol !
Photographer
Yani S
Posts: 1101
Los Angeles, California, US
Melissa Wolferd wrote:
More like when they tell you too much about their personal life with their wife who they are divorcing, then ask you out on a date once their divorce is pending, especially with a 17 year age gap. WoW Melissa you just called my parents creepy! Talk about ageism!
My MoM and Dad have a 25 year gap and they been haply married for over 40 yrs! True love to the core! Age has nothing to do with anything save looks! As proven by the wonderfully made Twilight Saga of dead 100 year olds monsters date high schoolers! But since they don't look like old people and are hot its ok!
Photographer
Micyl Sweeney
Posts: 7442
Madison, Alabama, US
Chris Adval wrote:
BE HONEST?
Give your definition of a creep, or/and what are your turn off's.
Would you judge a photographer being a creep because...
- they're not physically attractive?
- they have bad taste in fashion?
- bad (not "cool" expensive) car/vehicle?
- too much information on the photo-shoot?
- make you read a lot?
- too serious into photography?
- talks too much?
- has a home studio?
- too well organized? What is creepy is model who feels the need to judge photographers. Why would any photographer want to work with a model who has a list of things she/he considers "creepy' or a turn off when it comes to photography.
We are suppose to be professionals in this industry so as long as the photographer is not walking around naked, making sexual remarks, grabbing your boobs, crotch or ass than who gives a fuck if that photograher is attractive, well orgnaized, serious about his/her work, talks too much, has a home studio, drives a beater car, etc.
What matters is the results and there is no way I'd work with a model who judges a photographer over petty bullshit cause the shoot will be nothing but a hassle and the results will not be worth the hassle.
Photographer
Yani S
Posts: 1101
Los Angeles, California, US
I think people that use the word creepy are creepy...Dam! lol Where did it all change? The In Words use to be: Cool, Hot, Awesome, Epic, A Gas, Gnarly, Hip, Out of Sight, Solid, Bangin, Cool Beans, Peace, Tubular, Tough, Word, Bomb, Phat, Wicked,Sweet, Word. Now all people say and write is Creepy and Stalker. Kinda sad if you think about it, if this reflect our world and state of minds now.
Model
Alice Cat
Posts: 136
Haverfordwest, Wales, United Kingdom
Chris Adval wrote:
BE HONEST?
Give your definition of a creep, or/and what are your turn off's.
Would you judge a photographer being a creep because...
- they're not physically attractive?
- they have bad taste in fashion?
- bad (not "cool" expensive) car/vehicle?
- too much information on the photo-shoot?
- make you read a lot?
- too serious into photography?
- talks too much?
- has a home studio?
- too well organized? - Don't care at all about their looks
- Doesn't phase me how they dress
- Not a problem if they have a shit car
- Nope, usually a good thing to know exactly what they have in mind
- Annoying if the majority of it is unnecessary info, but not creepy
- Again can be annoying if they have an overall serious disposition, but not creepy, and usually results in great pics
- Little annoying but depends on the chemistry, if they're funny and it's meant to be a fun shoot then talk away!
- Nope, I can understand the need for home studios entirely
- Not creepy at all, but may result in me feeling uninspired - I like spur of the moment creativity and being able to bounce ideas off one another, as opposed to having a set list of poses and locations and outfits. Boring!
Creepiness to me is any behaviour that's not socially acceptable when alone with a young girl you barely know who's generally in her undergarments.. Some examples of creepy things which I've had happen from two separate photographers are sitting and watching me intently while I put on make-up, wiping lipstick off my teeth (no shit, it happened) and generally being too close for comfort, and calling me his "wife". Ew.
Being a nerd, having bad fashion sense, a crappy car and being a chipper chappie really do not bother me in the slightest. In fact, usually these are the nicest ones to work with!
Photographer
Archived
Posts: 13509
Phoenix, Arizona, US
A Raquel wrote:
Plain and simple for me: awkward and unnecessary comments regarding body parts, sex, or their past/current relationship problems.
"Don't take this the wrong way, but you've got a GREAT butt."
"Can I take you out to dinner after the shoot?"
etc.
These are things that I could do without, and even if they didn't necessarily entail a bad shoot, it will make me think twice about working with a particular photographer in the future. I don't see how that's inappropriate - it's directly applicable to modeling. Why would that be different than having the photographer compliment you on your face or hair?
Photographer
Micyl Sweeney
Posts: 7442
Madison, Alabama, US
Alice Cat wrote:
- Don't care at all about their looks
- Doesn't phase me how they dress
- Not a problem if they have a shit car
- Nope, usually a good thing to know exactly what they have in mind
- Annoying if the majority of it is unnecessary info, but not creepy
- Again can be annoying if they have an overall serious disposition, but not creepy, and usually results in great pics
- Little annoying but depends on the chemistry, if they're funny and it's meant to be a fun shoot then talk away!
- Nope, I can understand the need for home studios entirely
- Not creepy at all, but may result in me feeling uninspired - I like spur of the moment creativity and being able to bounce ideas off one another, as opposed to having a set list of poses and locations and outfits. Boring!
Creepiness to me is any behaviour that's not socially acceptable when alone with a young girl you barely know who's generally in her undergarments.. Some examples of creepy things which I've had happen from two separate photographers are sitting and watching me intently while I put on make-up, wiping lipstick off my teeth (no shit, it happened) and generally being too close for comfort, and calling me his "wife". Ew.
Being a nerd, having bad fashion sense, a crappy car and being a chipper chappie really do not bother me in the slightest. In fact, usually these are the nicest ones to work with! ^^^^^^^^^^
This is the attitude all models should have.
Just imagine if photographers judged models because the model talked too much, didn't own a car, didn't like the way that they dressed on their own time, was too organized, etc.
I have shot all kinds of models, from those who didn't own a car to those who wore sweats and a T shirt on their own time yet ask me if I care cause they were the best ones that I have worked with.
I'd rather work with a down to earth model such as yourself than one who has some "creep/turn off" list.
I understand models have to be careful however judging a photographer on the car that they drive, their looks, how they dress, how much they talk or do not talk, etc is simply insane.
True story, I have a home studio and I had a model refuse to work with me because of my home studio. She decided to work with a photographer here in town that had a studio in a strip mall and it was the worst experience she ever had. He was making sexual remarks, trying to grab her boobs, trying to get her drunk, etc.
The thing is, the model assumed because I had a home studio I was a creep. She never bothered to come see my home studio which is a 300 sq ft pro studio built on to my home.
Photographer
Chris Adval
Posts: 59
Hazleton, Pennsylvania, US
Dario Western wrote:
*tells inappropriate jokes during a shoot
*has bad hygeine and doesn't dress nicely isn't these subjective to certain people, some may or may not think something is an inappropriate joke, and as for hygiene what if the photographer has something on (scent) and the model hates the smell but the guy is wearing Axe Body spray, thats easily subjective correct?
Especially choice of clothing, a model may hate the photographers taste in fashion that they wear? isn't this as well subjective?
I'm not sure if you guys realize that this does exist in our business, especially from new models and models that are not seriously into modeling. As for professionals, of course it would be dumb to have the stuff I've listed in my original post, but it does happen from unprofessional models.
Photographer
Ascension Imaging
Posts: 267
Sarasota, Florida, US
I have been fortunate in that in of the models I have photographed nude, I have had a nice rapport with all of them. The reason I can't quite identify with the thread is that although I like to maintain a laid-back and friendly demeanor as I shoot, I'm typically completely engrossed in the process of shooting - lighting, makeup, props, camera settings, backdrop, wardrobe, etc. My mind is typically too engaged in these other things for me to notice that I happen to be alone in a room or on an outdoor set with a stunningly attractive nude girl. Sometimes I'll download the shoot and look at the edits and realize just how lovely she was after-the-fact. That said, regardless of whether the model is clothed or stark-naked, I can't imagine making physical contact (adjusting pose, wardrobe, hair, etc.) without first requesting permission.
Photographer
Micyl Sweeney
Posts: 7442
Madison, Alabama, US
Dario Western wrote:
A creepy photographer IMHO is one who:
*touches a model other than on the shoulder or shaking her hand I touch models all the time. Somtimes one has to in order to get the right pose for the shot. Of course I always ask and make sure we are in agreement.
You'd be shocked at what I have done as far as touching models however it was nothing sexual, always beneficial to the shot and always with the models permission.
Dario Western wrote:
*tells inappropriate jokes during a shoot Some of the models I've worked with tell some funny sexual in nature jokes. It is just joking. Of course I refrain from telling sexual jokes or any kind of jokes cause I am not a very good joke teller even though I have a great sense of humour. Just never could tell jokes very well. I am more of a prankster and a cut up.
Dario Western wrote:
*makes lascivious comments about a model's breasts, backside and/or genital area I have been known to comment on a models body however not in a sexual way. One model I was shooting had her nipples pierced and we talked about that. I asked her if it hurt, etc cause it was interesting to me cause I had never shot a model with pierced nipples. She was standing there topless and we were talking about her nipples and she actually let me get a good look at the pierced nipples. No big deal cause it was not anything sexual.
Dario Western wrote:
*looks at models funny I made all kinds of odd faces when shooting that have nothing to do with the model, it has to do with what I view in the camera.
Dario Western wrote:
*has bad hygeine and doesn't dress nicely Who cares how a photographer dresses as long as he doesn't have a t-shirt on that says something sexual or is naked.
As for bad hygeine I wouldn't say that is creepy, more disgusting than creepy. I could see a model having an issue with bad hygeine cause who would want to be around some smelly person for 2 hours or so.
Dario Western wrote:
*generally makes a model feel uncomfortable during a shoot Comfort level is up to each individual. I have shot models that no mattter what I do to ease their tension they are still tense cause they are trying to hard to get the perfect shot, new to modeling, etc.
Usually though before the shoot is over they are alot more comfortable.
I try to establish a friendship before we start the shoot, discuss ideas before the shoot, etc. Make them feel at home with me. Makes the actual shoot go alot smoother.
Most of the time when I do shoots it is a group of models for a day that way I can get in alot of group fashion shots and individual shots all in one day therefore I have food, take breaks, have drinks, etc and we sit around after the shoot and during the breals having a good time talking to one another about all kind of things.
I try my best to make models feel comfortable and since I am older (in my forties) most think of me as their cool uncle or big brother.
I've gained alot of friendships with the models I have shot cause I am that way. They talk to me and my wife about all kind of things. My wife and I are like family to them.
Comfort level is up to the photographer.
Dario Western wrote:
*asks intrusive questions about a model's personal life Usually it is the models who rant on about their personal life. Nothing wrong with talking about all kinds of things while shooting as long as they are not too sexual and too personal.
Usually though I have music playing, that really helps a model pose, get comfortable, feel at ease, etc and let them play their music of choice. I always tell them to bring some CD's just in case they cannot find something they like in my huge wide choice of music collection.
A shoot should be fun not a list of "creepy or turn off" things. I have no use for pettiness at a photo shoot.
Photographer
K E S L E R
Posts: 11574
Los Angeles, California, US
Or you can just be an asshole, tell them they are fat, what they are doing wrong, what needs to be fixed, and the whole creep thing just flies out the door
Photographer
Ascension Imaging
Posts: 267
Sarasota, Florida, US
Had another thought - the only time I thought I could have been accused of creepiness was on my very first nude shoot. It was a near-disaster from the get go. It was a studio shoot at a rented studio and for some reason I couldn't get my strobe-trigger to work, so the 1st hour of a 2 hour shoot was me screwing around with my camera and ultimately borrowing one from the studio owner because his trigger was synched. Luckily, my model was very patient and completely at ease with her body. I kept telling her she could cover up but she said it was hot and she just sat there on a bar stool on the set in her birthday suit.
God's honest truth, I was trying to test the camera and see if I could get the strobes to work and I wasn't even paying attention to what she was doing - she was sitting there daydreaming, sitting with knees unselfconsciously apart, and tweaking her nipples, lol. Not in a sexual way; I think it was more that she was bored. Anyway, the first time the strobes went off that was the image I captured. There was an uncomfortable moment after that because I think she suspected I had taken the pic intentionally, but it wasn't long before she was comfortable and we ended up with a great but abbreviated session.
Model
Mel Wolfe
Posts: 158
Old Field, New York, US
Yani S wrote:
WoW Melissa you just called my parents creepy! Talk about ageism!
My MoM and Dad have a 25 year gap and they been haply married for over 40 yrs! True love to the core! Age has nothing to do with anything save looks! As proven by the wonderfully made Twilight Saga of dead 100 year olds monsters date high schoolers! But since they don't look like old people and are hot its ok! Im sorry if I offended you, but sometimes an age gap works for some people. Unfortunately I have no interest in dating or being with someone with such a large age gap, it depends on who you ask. But me...its not something I perfer.
Yes LOVE has alot to do with marriage regardless of age, but to me, with certain things such as dating, age has an effect on who I choose the be with.
I wouldn't step foot in my house with someone who was 18 years older then me, My parents wouldnt approve and at the same time I feel as though Im on a completely different level then someone who is that much older then myself.
But like I said, to each their own, but thats how I feel
Photographer
Eye of the World
Posts: 1396
Corvallis, Oregon, US
hartcons wrote:
to me a glamour shoot with a model is so not a traditional workplace. lol. on our last shoot we were joking about how we were all going to burn in hell and then we went back to creating images that would definitely get us an invitation. and some of the models are a lot raunchier than me! Of course Bruce, your Mom would say that for any of your shoots. LOL
We would have to see them for ourselves to decide where you are headed though.
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