Forums > Model Colloquy > "Heineken advertisement" - scam?

Model

Erin Escott

Posts: 6

Leipzig, Saxony, Germany

Hi,
I recently got this here on MM and I guess it's scam... what do you think?
Don't even know the modelling company...

"Hi
I represent L & T modelling company and we have selected your portfolio for a Heineken Beer billboard advertisement at Quai charles De Gaulle Lyon. All we need is your approval to enable us process your payment. You just get payed for your pictures right away.

Email your replies with subject "Billboard" to: msctt@dr.com"

Aug 20 11 07:12 am Link

Photographer

Designit - Edward Olson

Posts: 1637

Eureka, California, US

Yeah, sorry, scam.  No one gets cast without applying and no one gets paid like that.

Notify MM by clicking on "info" in the upper right corner and select "Contact a moderator"

Aug 20 11 07:24 am Link

Model

Erin Escott

Posts: 6

Leipzig, Saxony, Germany

I already thought so. I was just a little irritated because he/she had pictures uploaded on his account (and no spelling mistakes... woooow). Thanks anyway, just reported it!

Aug 20 11 07:29 am Link

Photographer

RSM-images

Posts: 4226

Jacksonville, Florida, US

.

Don't let your greed overpower your common sense...!

neutral

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Aug 20 11 08:28 am Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10556

Gatineau, Quebec, Canada

now I have a craving for a Heineken and I only have Grolsch and Stella in the fridge sad

Aug 20 11 08:34 am Link

Photographer

Michael Bots

Posts: 5969

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Beer company ads are strictly an agency affair.

Think about it - If you were in charge of a million dollar/euro ad campaign (including placement costs) which is going to be billed to the client anyway, would you try to save less than 1/10th of 1% of that budget by pinning it on an unknown model with a limited track record that you have not worked with before, that you saw on the internet?
It is not unusual for a "prime" location billboard to cost $1,000. per day or more.
Watch the commercials below.  There is too much at stake ($$) to take any production risks on something like this.


Here is one of their current commercials - full version - not the chopped down TV version.
Heineken Commercial 2011 - The Asteroids Galaxy Tour   (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6SylHffPQk

or this one -- known famous star power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDW3evA_DU

Aug 20 11 10:51 am Link

Model

pamela mars

Posts: 1719

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

scam

Aug 20 11 10:56 am Link

Photographer

Top Level Studio

Posts: 3253

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Here's one of my favourite Heineken ads.  The song is Cosmonaut Petrov, by Igor and Red Elvises.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHWRBhD4O8

Aug 20 11 12:47 pm Link

Photographer

Kaouthia

Posts: 3152

Lancaster, England, United Kingdom

Vera N wrote:
and no spelling mistakes... woooow

Except that he said you'd be "payed" and not "paid". smile

Aug 20 11 04:10 pm Link

Model

Nichole Bre

Posts: 1

Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany

I got the same mail today..thought it was a Scam smile

Aug 21 11 06:11 am Link

Photographer

Keys88 Photo

Posts: 17646

New York, New York, US

Michael Bots wrote:
Beer company ads are strictly an agency affair.

Not true.

Photographers often do their own castings and while many working commercial photographers DO use agencies, many do not.

That said, OP, YES, this is a scam.

As you have indicated that you received this through MM, you should save a Screen Capture of the message and send it to the Moderators via C.A.M. (Contact a Moderator) so that the scammer can be removed from the site.

Aug 21 11 06:16 am Link

Model

Erin Escott

Posts: 6

Leipzig, Saxony, Germany

Sent it to the CAM already, thanks for your answers, anyway!

Aug 21 11 08:18 am Link

Model

Rachel_Elizabeth_22

Posts: 388

Birmingham, England, United Kingdom

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
now I have a craving for a Heineken and I only have Grolsch and Stella in the fridge sad

LMAO :-)

Aug 21 11 08:38 am Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11598

Wilmington, Delaware, US

IF this offer came from a Model Mayhem member it is very important that those who received it contact a moderator and report it at once. Very important.

Aug 21 11 08:52 am Link

Photographer

J Welborn

Posts: 2552

Clarksville, Tennessee, US

I can't think of any reason any agency or co would try to find commercial models on MM .

Not to say there are not some here but not many -----

Aug 21 11 09:06 am Link

Photographer

Michael Bots

Posts: 5969

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

J  Welborn wrote:
I can't think of any reason any agency or co would try to find commercial models on MM .

Not to say there are not some here but not many -----

They may scout talent here but any commercial booking like that would be through an agency.  A case of - Who's your agent?

Aug 22 11 04:57 am Link

Model

Ruby Feathers

Posts: 2

Paris, Île-de-France, France

May 15 12 10:13 am Link

Photographer

DVP Photography

Posts: 2862

Broomfield, Colorado, US

This is the classic "Advance Fee" scam also called the "Nigerian" scam.  Google these and learn how they work.

And start to learn the modeling business.  Read the information available to you on MM as a new model.  No one works like this.

May 15 12 10:19 am Link

Model

Ruby Feathers

Posts: 2

Paris, Île-de-France, France

May 15 12 10:21 am Link

Photographer

SME

Posts: 21034

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Moderator Note!
If this message was sent to you via MM, please let the moderators know: http://www.ripoffreport.com

Please also go to your My Stuff area, and click the red graphic on the right that says "Avoid Scams!"  The readings there will help you identify scams when they come your way.  Anytime you receive them from an MM member, please let the moderators know.

Thank you.

May 15 12 10:33 am Link

Model

Your_Muse

Posts: 1

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

I GOT THE SAME THING!

Hello,
Thanks for the reply. ,I'm Judith, An Advert Manager of Heineken
Beer bottle company the official sponsorer of UEFA CHAMPION'S LEAGUE.
When ever an advert is meant to done by Heineken,we go around in
search of photos, where ever we can find, basically through Agency and
Modeling site, So its from there pictures and photos are been screened
and selected and it happened that yours was chosen with some other
qualified candidates.Beauty isn't really the watch word for the
criteria we are looking for so don't be amazed.We are going to issue out a
payment of  $600 for the costume  to you to buy clothes
for the shooting such as, Beach and Glamor Wears to be use for the shooting. And the payment for your costume and the payment for the
photographer crew, hair stylist and wardrobe, would be issue with
yours to you, because we don't want to issue payment twice before the
shooting.And you will be paid again,  after the shooting. And the first shooting would take place in your local area location with the rest models in your location,and that would be 26th of next month. So if you still interested in the offer,you should get back to us with the information required below.


FULL NAME:
AGE:
DATE OF BIRTH:
WEIGHT:
HEIGHT:
HOME ADDRESS:
CITY
POST CODE
STATE:
COUNTRY
PRESENT OCCUPATION
MOBILE NUMBER:
EMAIL:

............MALE ................
CHEST:
SHOE SIZE
HAIR:
BUILD
..........LADY ....................
BUST:
WAIST:
HIPS:
DRESS SIZE:
SHOE SIZE:
EYES:
HAIR:


*Please note that none of the information you share with us is going
to be shared with any third party, they are strictly for purpose of
analysis only.
After your information has been reviewed and confirmed, a makeup
artist and photographer would be assigned to you to take you on the
photo shoots. Also the initial $600 due to you and payment for the
artist and photographer will be issue to you. All the required
information should be sent as soon as possible as we respond on a
first come first served basis.
N*B
We are still awaiting to receive two or more picture of you.The photos
required is basically for documentations and preview..Let us know.

Judith

May 24 12 08:03 am Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5214

Pomona, California, US

Michael Bots wrote:
Beer company ads are strictly an agency affair.

Think about it - If you were in charge of a million dollar/euro ad campaign (including placement costs) which is going to be billed to the client anyway, would you try to save less than 1/10th of 1% of that budget by pinning it on an unknown model with a limited track record that you have not worked with before, that you saw on the internet?
It is not unusual for a "prime" location billboard to cost $1,000. per day or more.
Watch the commercials below.  There is too much at stake ($$) to take any production risks on something like this.


Here is one of their current commercials - full version - not the chopped down TV version.
Heineken Commercial 2011 - The Asteroids Galaxy Tour   (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6SylHffPQk

or this one -- known famous star power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDW3evA_DU

+1

May 24 12 08:07 am Link

Photographer

Daniel Ecoff

Posts: 416

SHERMAN OAKS, California, US

I got the same email, so I just replied "send me a 12pack and call it a day"

May 24 12 06:07 pm Link

Photographer

Rebecca Christine

Posts: 7068

Chester, England, United Kingdom

Moderator Note!
Anyone who has legitimately received this message please follow the above instructions and contact us

May 24 12 06:15 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 8452

Los Angeles, California, US

Well in the United States...To be hired to do Beer and Wine..and Cancer Stick Ads...You must be 25 years of age.

AND Any Major Corp. Will not come in here and hire you. IT always goes through an Agency.

May 24 12 06:28 pm Link

Model

Joseph Perry1

Posts: 1

Los Angeles, California, US

My question is how does Model Mayhem allow scammers to advertise ??? do they not do thoro background checks on these so-called agency's???? ,I'm Gee, An Advert Manager of Heineken
Beer bottle company the official sponsorer of UEFA CHAMPION'S LEAGUE. Claimed i will be receiving a check in the mail....smdh  Ashame

Aug 16 12 06:23 am Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15543

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Michael Bots wrote:
Beer company ads are strictly an agency affair.

Agree, I worked on a Heineken ad. many years ago as an assistant and it was all agency models.
We got very drunk after,, hic hic.

Aug 16 12 09:29 am Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Heineken is represented by a large ad agency who would be responsible for all that - Publicis Groupe's Starcom MediaVest.

It's also a bad sign that the company name is not Heineken Beer Bottle Company. You would think these scammers could have a little pride in their work. If you're going to be scum, at least be the best scum you can be.

Aug 16 12 09:43 am Link

Model

Jordan Bunniie

Posts: 1693

Los Angeles, California, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
now I have a craving for a Heineken and I only have Grolsch and Stella in the fridge sad

lol

Aug 16 12 10:51 am Link

Model

DJ Mew

Posts: 52

Chicago, Illinois, US

Yes it is a scam. I was sent the same thing.

Aug 19 12 07:38 pm Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15543

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Is it my imagination or has there been an increase in scam mail on MM as the forums seem to be full of people receiving  scam mail.

Aug 20 12 03:43 pm Link

Model

dani25

Posts: 1

Cork, Cork, Ireland

hi,I was got same message,

Hello,
Thanks for the reply. ,I'm George, An Advert Manager of Heineken
Beer bottle company the official sponsorer of UEFA CHAMPION'S LEAGUE.
When ever an advert is meant to done by Heineken,we go around in
search of photos, where ever we can find, basically through Agency and
Modeling site, So its from there pictures and photos are been screened
and selected and it happened that yours was chosen with some other
qualified candidates.Beauty isn't really the watch word for the
criteria we are looking for so don't be amazed.We are going to issue out a
payment of  600Euro  to you to get the wears
for the shooting such as, Beach and Glamor Wears to be use for the shooting, and also Additional
Payment for the crew who are coming over to your area location for the shooting.
Which means the payment for your costume and the payment for the
photographer crew, hair stylist and wardrobe, would be issue all together with yours,
because we don't want to issue payment twice before the
shooting.And you will be paid again,  after the shooting. And the first shooting would
take place in your local area location with the rest models in your location,and that would be
20th  of next month. So if you still interested in the offer,you should get back to us with the information
required below and your real  address, no po box..


FULL NAME:
AGE:
DATE OF BIRTH:
WEIGHT:
HEIGHT:
HOME ADDRESS:
CITY
POST CODE
STATE:
COUNTRY
PRESENT OCCUPATION
MOBILE NUMBER:
EMAIL:

............MALE ................
CHEST:
SHOE SIZE
HAIR:
BUILD
..........LADY ....................
BUST:
WAIST:
HIPS:
DRESS SIZE:
SHOE SIZE:
EYES:
HAIR:


*Please note that none of the information you share with us is going
to be shared with any third party, they are strictly for purpose of
analysis only.
After your information has been reviewed and confirmed, a makeup
artist and photographer would be assigned to you to take you on the
photo shoots. Also the initial 600 Euro due to you and payment for the
artist and photographer will be issue to you. All the required
information should be sent as soon as possible as we respond on a
first come first served basis.
N*B
We are still awaiting to receive two or more picture of you.The photos
required is basically for documentations and preview..Let us know.

George

Aug 28 12 03:53 am Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11598

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I wonder if this is possible. When a new member joins us. Be it model, photographer, retoucher...etc. Whatever, can a sentence be added to their auto welcome email or PM they get that reads something like.

We want to point out to you that as a new member of the most popular modeling site online you are going to be a target of people wanting to scam you. The first thing you should do is to read the scam tips in the "My Stuff" section of your profile.

"But also know this. NO company or agency anywhere on Earth EVER EVER hires a new, untested talent, sight unseen from any website. ANY offer is a scam and should be avoided at all costs or you will lose massive amounts of money. Always and without exception." Here is an example of the scam letter to avoid...."

And then show them the scam letter and then they are educated. Could we do that or am I just being overly protective?

Aug 28 12 07:27 am Link

Model

Sweet Candi Apple

Posts: 1

Canmore, Alberta, Canada

Looks like this scam has been going for a while now...I just recieved this one (when I went to look at his profile...I couldnt even open it...mmm wonder why)



Subject: Shooting

rushbratt
09/24/12 11:59 PM


Hello ...I'm  James,a member of the official Sponsorer of Uefa
Champion's League Heineken Beer.Right now we are now working on a job for Heineken in USA,CANADA,IRELAND. I wonder if you are interested in modeling for your photos will be posted on billboards,
magazines and all major international airports in the U.k,US and go
around Europe.We select photos and pictures that match the standard
required, we set, from various Agency.Your Pictures are perfect on
Model Mayhem, and I think they fit our criteria perfectly.Please let
me know if you are interested in this position. For starters, you get
a 600$ for shooting costume and you will also be paid after the
shooting, after which you can negotiate your salary contract. It is
also perhaps a chance to achieve significant fame.Return to me, if you are
interested, kindly get back to me at (benji0202@hotmail.com)  for more details. As i won't be checking my inbox MM for screening.


James

Sep 25 12 07:31 am Link

Photographer

Photography by Riddell

Posts: 654

Hemel Hempstead, England, United Kingdom

There is lots of variations on this scam. I get them regularly.

Paul.
www.photographybyriddell.co.uk

Sep 25 12 08:03 am Link

Model

maryham

Posts: 1

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I got the same scam sad fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I hate those people

Sep 27 12 10:02 am Link

Photographer

Fotojeroen

Posts: 72

Waalwijk, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands

The most easy way to see if it is scam or not is very simple:


I represent L & T modelling company

And the email is: msctt@dr.com

First, just type www.dr.com and you'll know that it's not the L&T Modelling company.
Do I need to say more?

Sep 27 12 01:38 pm Link

Model

caroljin2

Posts: 1

Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada

benji0202@hotmail.com

this guy is saying he wants to put me on heniken billboards, ya guys hes a scammer, i hate people that do this kind of shit to people. wow hey,

anyways thanks ladies for sticking together so we are always watching eachothers back!!!

xxxo jin

Sep 27 12 03:34 pm Link

Photographer

ColourFool

Posts: 1649

Breda, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
now I have a craving for a Heineken and I only have Grolsch and Stella in the fridge sad

I'd pick a Grolsch over Heineken any day of the week smile

Sep 27 12 03:53 pm Link

Model

Ashley Nicole McNeal

Posts: 1

Redding, California, US

I recently had the same thing happened to me from supposed "heineken" they followed up with emails thouraly and then sent me a fake
$2,750.00 check asking to send money back to them for photographer, ect. Beware!!! Laurie ridgeway is the supposed # of the main person in charge, now texting me asking about the payment!

Oct 18 12 12:36 am Link