Forums > Photography Talk > About the black space around a fisheye shot

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

I wanted to do something different, so I broke out an old fisheye adapter yesterday. I like the look, but I'm bothered about the black space around the image.

Any creative suggestions on what to do with the black space?

http://jiminchico.com/images/2240sm2.jpg

Jan 22 12 03:50 pm Link

Photographer

Alluring Exposures

Posts: 11360

Mesa, Arizona, US

Dream-foto wrote:
I wanted to do something different, so I broke out an old fisheye adapter yesterday. I like the look, but I'm bothered about the black space around the image.

Any creative suggestions on what to do with the black space?


http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120122/15/4f1c9ca02eef4_m.jpg

Zoom out and crop it out?

Jan 22 12 04:00 pm Link

Photographer

Jeffs Photography

Posts: 3608

Dakota, Minnesota, US

Dream-foto wrote:
Any creative suggestions on what to do with the black space?

Add in a hand/claw like it's holding a "sphere"?

Jan 22 12 04:03 pm Link

Photographer

Mnemosyne - Projects

Posts: 894

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Alluring Exposures wrote:

Zoom out and crop it out?

Wouldn't zooming out make a larger black space?

Jan 22 12 04:04 pm Link

Photographer

Capture1

Posts: 58

Huntsville, Alabama, US

Kinda defeats the purpose. The black space is synonymous with a fisheye lens. It's nothing more than barrel distortion.

Jan 22 12 04:09 pm Link

Photographer

New Dawn Photography

Posts: 3015

San Ramon, California, US

Take a head shot of yourself and edit the sphere into one of your eyes.

Jan 22 12 04:13 pm Link

Photographer

James Rosenberg

Posts: 80

Santa Barbara, California, US

Enrapture Photography wrote:

Add in a hand/claw like it's holding a "sphere"?

sorry haha im a terrible person
http://i43.tinypic.com/zvzvpi.jpg

Jan 22 12 04:18 pm Link

Photographer

BareLight

Posts: 510

Kansas City, Kansas, US

Turn the black into white so it looks like a round photo (at least on web-sites with white backgrounds)

Jan 22 12 04:46 pm Link

Photographer

RedwoodForest

Posts: 307

Portland, Oregon, US

I chucked my adapter in the trash recently. It was an Opteka I bought about a year ago and used for just a couple of days.

Ended up getting a Tokina fisheye lens. Got mine new, but used they are around $400 give or take.

Sold mine for a Tokina UWA, but hope to replace it this year or next.

One of the best collections I've seen is on Flickr.com

Search for a user possessed2fisheye

Jan 22 12 06:18 pm Link

Photographer

Z_Photo

Posts: 6990

Huntsville, Alabama, US

James Rosenberg wrote:

sorry haha im a terrible person
http://i43.tinypic.com/zvzvpi.jpg

wow, look at all the infringement

Jan 22 12 06:48 pm Link

Photographer

Josh Yu Photography

Posts: 206

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Z_Photo wrote:

wow, look at all the infringement

It's parody, it's fair use (probably)!

Jan 22 12 06:51 pm Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10606

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Josh Yu Photography wrote:
It's parody, it's fair use (probably)!

using the OP's image AND someone else's copryright material without permission? I'd suggest it get taken down before someone contacts a MOD. (even tho it was cute)

Jan 22 12 07:20 pm Link

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Robert Lynch

Posts: 2485

Bowie, Maryland, US

Josh Yu Photography wrote:
It's parody, it's fair use (probably)!

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
using the OP's image AND someone else's copryright material without permission?

Parody doesn't require permission.  Whether the example in question qualifies as parody is a separate discussion.

Jan 22 12 07:51 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

James Rosenberg wrote:
sorry haha im a terrible person
http://i43.tinypic.com/zvzvpi.jpg

Thanks James, I love it!!!

This is the adapter I was using. I've had it for about 30 years, it's time I had some fun with it. For a cheap adapter, I'm amazed how good the quality is.

http://www.jiminchico.com/fisheye.jpg

You can pick up similar ones on ebay for around $35.

RedwoodForest wrote:
I chucked my adapter in the trash recently. It was an Opteka I bought about a year ago and used for just a couple of days.

Ended up getting a Tokina fisheye lens. Got mine new, but used they are around $400 give or take.

Sold mine for a Tokina UWA, but hope to replace it this year or next.

One of the best collections I've seen is on Flickr.com

Search for a user possessed2fisheye

I never throw anything away, you can never tell when some accessory might come in handy.

I also have a Tokina fisheye, however with my APS-C sensor, I don't get the full round effect with that lens.

Jan 22 12 10:32 pm Link

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James Rosenberg

Posts: 80

Santa Barbara, California, US

oh of course a copyright debate starts over what is obviously a parody! haha
But im glad you liked it. Thats pretty cool, but what do you put it on?

Jan 22 12 10:41 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

James Rosenberg wrote:
oh of course a copyright debate starts over what is obviously a parody! haha
But im glad you liked it. Thats pretty cool, but what do you put it on?

Oh, I consider it totally fair use, you gave me a great idea. I don't mind it at all.

edit: I'm going to get a shot of that models hands holding her image.

Jan 22 12 10:44 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

James Rosenberg wrote:
.... Thats pretty cool, but what do you put it on?

I put it on a Canon G6, I love that camera, and with the 52mm filter adapter, it works great with stuff like this adapter and slide copy holders.

http://www.foto-tip.pl/sklep/1/CanonG6+tulejka2.jpg

Jan 22 12 10:47 pm Link

Photographer

James Rosenberg

Posts: 80

Santa Barbara, California, US

Dream-foto wrote:

I put it on a Canon G6, I love that camera, and with the 53mm filter adapter, it works great with stuff like this adapter and slide copy holders.

Oh, i see. I would defiantly have to get a bigger adapter to try that however. the only camera i own and shoot on is a 7D. The canon fisheyes are quite expensive.

Jan 22 12 10:50 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

James Rosenberg wrote:
Oh, i see. I would defiantly have to get a bigger adapter to try that however. the only camera i own and shoot on is a 7D. The canon fisheyes are quite expensive.

Pick up a G6, you'll be amazed at the quality that old camera can deliver. And it has the flip out lcd display which is really handy when shooting above your head, or down near the ground.

edit: I also have a cheap Bower ring flash made for macro work. It also fits perfectly on the G6. The ring flash makes a great fill light. Check out the girl with the ice cream cone in my port. That shot was done with the G6 and the cheap ring flash. And it works in TTL mode with that camera.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080701/01/4869c45a901e4_m.jpg

http://focuscamera.com/pics/Bower/sfd14c.jpg

Jan 22 12 10:53 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

James Rosenberg wrote:
Oh, i see. I would defiantly have to get a bigger adapter to try that however. the only camera i own and shoot on is a 7D. The canon fisheyes are quite expensive.

What you did kind of reminds me of the famous     M. C. Escher drawing. MM photographer Billy Monday had done a similar self-portrait.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Hand_with_Reflecting_Sphere.jpg/300px-Hand_with_Reflecting_Sphere.jpg

Billy Monday:
http://www.ablemuse.com/v9/images/features/billy-monday.jpg

Jan 22 12 11:16 pm Link

Photographer

Mnemosyne - Projects

Posts: 894

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

using the OP's image AND someone else's copryright material without permission? I'd suggest it get taken down before someone contacts a MOD. (even tho it was cute)

Parody is allowed under copyright law. It's how SNL gets away with, pretty much everything it does.

Jan 23 12 12:49 am Link

Photographer

Alluring Exposures

Posts: 11360

Mesa, Arizona, US

Mnemosyne - Projects wrote:

Wouldn't zooming out make a larger black space?

No, zooming out makes the subject smaller which would then allow you to crop the image with no black corners.

Jan 23 12 04:22 pm Link

Model

Taboo Tyger

Posts: 1

Chico, California, US

thats awesome!!! lol.

Jan 23 12 05:03 pm Link

Photographer

Andrew Iverson Media

Posts: 569

River Falls, Wisconsin, US

James Rosenberg wrote:

Oh, i see. I would defiantly have to get a bigger adapter to try that however. the only camera i own and shoot on is a 7D. The canon fisheyes are quite expensive.

I have one of the Canon fisheyes, and have to say that after using it i'd never use one of those adapters that gives the circle in the middle. That is unless that is what i was going for. Just my 2cents.

Jan 23 12 05:09 pm Link

Photographer

Dream-foto

Posts: 4387

Chico, California, US

I did another shoot with that girl, and used James Rosenberg's idea, this was the result:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120129/11/4f259acc975c0_m.jpg

Jan 29 12 01:55 pm Link