Retoucher

Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Hi, please tell what you think about this retouch: http://aleksandrolkhovskiy.com/beforeaftersje.html
Especially about skin tones - is it bad? (I can't understand, feels bad but can't make it right) and ear - is it ok?

Apr 07 12 04:08 am Link

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Koray

Posts: 6688

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

skin color is ok but the forehead and the rest of her face is different. you may want to try to match one another.

what really bugs me are her hands. they lost the natural form after whatever you have done to them.

Apr 07 12 04:28 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Koray wrote:
what really bugs me are her hands. they lost the natural form after whatever you have done to them.

Thank you, now I see it, wierd how untill you said that it felt ok

Apr 07 12 04:30 am Link

Photographer

Odin Photo

Posts: 1459

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

I like it in general, but add the texture back to the sides of her hands. They look a bit off with no texture.

Edit: Haha, that's what I get for posting without refreshing the page first. Looks like you've already resolved it.

Apr 07 12 04:31 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Odin Photo wrote:
I like it in general, but add the texture back to the sides of her hands. They look a bit off with no texture.

Edit: Haha, that's what I get for posting without refreshing the page first. Looks like you've already resolved it.

hmm nope), texture wasn't removed to start with, wierd.
Thanks.

Apr 07 12 04:35 am Link

Photographer

Photographe

Posts: 2350

Bristol, England, United Kingdom

Is it me or the ear looks wet? Not sure.

Also, I'm viewing the pic so enlarged, I'm not sure, but is it lazy left eye?

Otherwise everything seems ok to me. Nice work.

Apr 07 12 04:47 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Rollo David Snook wrote:
Is it me or the ear looks wet? Not sure.

Also, I'm viewing the pic so enlarged, I'm not sure, but is it lazy left eye?

Otherwise everything seems ok to me. Nice work.

Thank you, yes ear looks a bit wet inside, but do you find it much distracting?

Apr 07 12 05:04 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Koray wrote:
skin color is ok but the forehead and the rest of her face is different. you may want to try to match one another.

what really bugs me are her hands. they lost the natural form after whatever you have done to them.

updated, what you think, now its bearable?

Apr 07 12 05:04 am Link

Photographer

Photographe

Posts: 2350

Bristol, England, United Kingdom

Aleksandr Olkhovskiy wrote:
Thank you, yes ear looks a bit wet inside, but do you find it much distracting?

When viewing at that magnification, perhaps, not sure.

Sometimes powder is heavy on the face and other body parts aren't consistent. I've never really noticed it with ears though.

I'm not an expert on retouching though at all.

Apr 07 12 05:10 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Rollo David Snook wrote:
When viewing at that magnification, perhaps, not sure.

Sometimes powder is heavy on the face and other body parts aren't consistent. I've never really noticed it with ears though.

I'm not an expert on retouching though at all.

I guess it wasn't intention to shoot glossy ear as well, so probably will be better without it, fixed it, thanks

Apr 07 12 05:47 am Link

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SterlingHein

Posts: 165

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I think it looks pretty decent; however, a lot of the shadows have become too desaturated.  Particularly on her camera-right shoulder and on the side of her face, where the shadows appear grey.

Apr 07 12 10:58 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

SterlingHein wrote:
I think it looks pretty decent; however, a lot of the shadows have become too desaturated.  Particularly on her camera-right shoulder and on the side of her face, where the shadows appear grey.

Thanks, I added a bit of saturation, but very little.

Apr 08 12 05:57 am Link

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Natalia_Taffarel

Posts: 7665

Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Lazy eye kills the image.

There's banding in the BG (It's there in the original but it shouldn't be there in the final)

Very natural work on the skin and hair

Nails should be done, they make no sense with the rest of the image.

Also, bone structure has no definition - lighting is bland... you should do some carving to shape her

Upper teeth re blue smile

Apr 08 12 06:18 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
Lazy eye kills the image.

There's banding in the BG (It's there in the original but it shouldn't be there in the final)

Very natural work on the skin and hair

Nails should be done, they make no sense with the rest of the image.

Also, bone structure has no definition - lighting is bland... you should do some carving to shape her

Upper teeth re blue smile

Thank you!
I will try to fix all above, can't find banding though, I wonder how you see it? You mean dots in the background? I tried to find it and decreased brightness then those spots become visible but I just can't find banding, is it my screen or maybe it takes years to train eyes? I also seen in old thread you noticed banding in skin in some image, I also failed to see it there, so something definately wrong.
Also please tell what you mean need to be done with nails?
fixed eye and teeth.

Apr 08 12 07:23 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

updated with bit of "carving", probably not even noticeable, can't do better at this point.

Apr 09 12 05:35 am Link

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Robert LC

Posts: 944

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Aleksandr Olkhovskiy wrote:
updated with bit of "carving", probably not even noticeable, can't do better at this point.

Did a good job seeing some of the issues from the before, but there's still some left.
There's yellow on her upper lip and lower teeth and still some too desaturated shadows (imo).
Compare her neck with her shoulders..similar luminosity but the shoulders are a lot less saturated (thumb as well).

Maybe smooth her neck contour out a bit (screen left)?

Apr 11 12 02:55 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Robert LC wrote:

Did a good job seeing some of the issues from the before, but there's still some left.
There's yellow on her upper lip and lower teeth and still some too desaturated shadows (imo).
Compare her neck with her shoulders..similar luminosity but the shoulders are a lot less saturated (thumb as well).

Maybe smooth her neck contour out a bit (screen left)?

Thank you!, will try to improve what you said, can't find yellow in lip

Apr 11 12 03:45 am Link

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Robert LC

Posts: 944

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Aleksandr Olkhovskiy wrote:
[..]can't find yellow in lip

There's some yellow above her lip (not on her lip smile ) in/around her philtrum area.

Apr 11 12 03:58 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Robert LC wrote:
There's some yellow above her lip (not on her lip smile ) in/around her philtrum area.

thanks!
updated image

Apr 11 12 04:12 am Link

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Andreea Cernestean

Posts: 495

Baia Mare, Maramureş, Romania

Looks great to me smile

Apr 12 12 01:02 am Link

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Aleksandr Olkhovskiy

Posts: 166

Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia

Andreea Cernestean wrote:
Looks great to me smile

Thank you smile

Apr 12 12 01:03 am Link

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bobbydolan

Posts: 168

Boston, Massachusetts, US

nice work specifically on the hands and eyes, did you flip one eye to the other to open it up/

May 09 12 05:35 am Link

Retoucher

nebulaoperator

Posts: 340

London, England, United Kingdom

Lovely retouching  very natural my cup of tea. You've done a lot of correction already but one thing that bothers me is nose bridge lighting you done is too aggressive/flat. I would follow the natural path of light and accent it. nose tip and bit up that has a highlight. Somehow my eyes are still restful though I would like to settle them down.Over all I really like it.

May 11 12 03:55 am Link

Photographer

Matt Schmidt

Posts: 3681

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

A few minor things but overall it looks wonderful.

May 11 12 04:13 am Link