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OTTO poste1

Posts: 191

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

some photos have this particular grain, texture to them. How do you think this is achieved ?

like these : http://imagesgonerogue.com/images/2012/4/4/simone7.jpg

May 02 12 09:19 am Link

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Jacob Davis

Posts: 858

Boulder, Colorado, US

A simple approach that usually works for me is add an Overlay layer filled 50% gray, add monochrome noise around 10%, and possibly apply a very minor Gaussian blur to soften the grain. Set opacity to taste.

May 02 12 09:47 am Link

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William Kious

Posts: 8841

Delphos, Ohio, US

Shoot film?

There are any number of ways to introduce grain. I use much of what Jacob posted, but I tend to kill some of the grain in the highlights.

May 02 12 09:54 am Link

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RAY JOHN PILA

Posts: 138

West Hollywood, California, US

You can can shoot with a high ISO and get more grain, or use plug ins , niks software and add the grain, and mess with the color...

May 02 12 11:25 am Link

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pellepiano

Posts: 2282

Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden

... or use the Grain Filter in Photoshop. ( Texture>Grain )

May 02 12 11:53 am Link

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Neil Snape

Posts: 9473

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Or add grain on a copy in LR.

May 02 12 12:01 pm Link

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Stecyk

Posts: 305

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Alien Skin Exposure 4 has excellent grain adding capabilities as well. There are several parameters within the grain section to customize your look.

http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/

May 02 12 12:30 pm Link

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Gulag

Posts: 1250

Duluth, Georgia, US

Jacob Davis wrote:
A simple approach that usually works for me is add an Overlay layer filled 50% gray, add monochrome noise around 10%, and possibly apply a very minor Gaussian blur to soften the grain. Set opacity to taste.

+1

You can use the same method to create a pattern so that you can reuse the grain effects on the fly in the future.

May 02 12 01:53 pm Link

Retoucher

OTTO poste1

Posts: 191

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Thanks a lot guys!

May 02 12 03:13 pm Link

Photographer

Studio V

Posts: 136

Del Mar, California, US

photoshop's diffused glow and you can adjust the grain there

May 02 12 03:18 pm Link

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OTTO poste1

Posts: 191

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

William Kious wrote:
Shoot film?

There are any number of ways to introduce grain. I use much of what Jacob posted, but I tend to kill some of the grain in the highlights.

Shoot film? When are you from? wink

May 02 12 05:56 pm Link

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AgX

Posts: 1273

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

ottoretouch wrote:

Shoot film? When are you from? wink

Last week.  That's when.  wink

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/28170580

May 02 12 06:08 pm Link

Retoucher

Sofia Zasheva

Posts: 154

Sofia, Sofija grad, Bulgaria

pellepiano wrote:
... or use the Grain Filter in Photoshop. ( Texture>Grain )

This ...
The best grain from a plugin I've seen is in Silver Efex.

May 03 12 01:33 am Link

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Blue Rose Photos

Posts: 263

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

DXO filmpack

May 08 12 08:20 pm Link

Retoucher

JohnHolder

Posts: 76

Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada

Get a high res dusty grain blank image and blend.

May 08 12 08:28 pm Link

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FLEXmanta

Posts: 1001

Madrid, Madrid, Spain

ottoretouch wrote:

Shoot film? When are you from? wink

Most of our artsy fashion work is shot on film. Then negatives are scanned and retouched in photoshop.

http://digitalartstudio.es/en/proyectos.asp

http://www.jesusalonsostudio.com/galeria.html

May 10 12 04:02 am Link

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sbourson

Posts: 559

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Natural light shoot, noise on camera perhap's OTTo

May 10 12 06:49 am Link

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A M Johnson

Posts: 8024

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Grain and noise are two different things. Please don't confuse the two, the character is entirely different. Grain (really film grain) has a pleasing texture if done in moderate amounts but digital noise is just that- noise. Noise is nothing more than defect in the picture.


My .02 anyway. smile

May 10 12 07:00 am Link

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Robert LC

Posts: 944

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

A M Johnson wrote:
Grain and noise are two different things. Please don't confuse the two, the character is entirely different. Grain (really film grain) has a pleasing texture if done in moderate amounts but digital noise is just that- noise. Noise is nothing more than defect in the picture.


My .02 anyway. smile

True (though grain is a form of noise, noise is not equal to grain).

And digital sharpening is not sharpening (and can't replace good focusing in camera), yet you can use these techniques and when done appropriately you'll get percieved sharpening and perceived grain.
Even in the 'old days' in the dark rooms, these pseudo techniques were used.

So from a photographer's perspective, true, why fake it when you can make it smile
From a retoucher's perspective (it's the DAR forum after all) it's interesting to experiment with these things.

NothingIsRealButTheGirl has a video on using noise and hardmix to create halftone patterns, but you could use it to simulate grain as well, possibly in combination with a luminosity mask to lower it in the highlights(though this technique will partially do that for you already):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpoUes8o_4

May 10 12 08:22 am Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 33561

Los Angeles, California, US

Robert LC wrote:
NothingIsRealButTheGirl has a video on using noise and hardmix to create halftone patterns, but you could use it to simulate grain as well, possibly in combination with a luminosity mask to lower it in the highlights(though this technique will partially do that for you already):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpoUes8o_4

I started to try and develop that idea more, just to experiment, but didn't take it that much farther -

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/ … _film.html

May 10 12 08:35 am Link

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Marcus Turner Photo

Posts: 201

Chicago, Illinois, US

if we are talking about the "digital world" grain and noise aren't two different things.

May 10 12 09:02 am Link

Retoucher

Robert LC

Posts: 944

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
I started to try and develop that idea more, just to experiment, but didn't take it that much farther -

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/ … _film.html

Yeah like that reticulation version smile Only thing is size..did you already use a small amount of noise in the first step?

May 10 12 09:29 am Link

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Santiago Belizon

Posts: 59

London, England, United Kingdom

Jacob Davis wrote:
A simple approach that usually works for me is add an Overlay layer filled 50% gray, add monochrome noise around 10%, and possibly apply a very minor Gaussian blur to soften the grain. Set opacity to taste.

+1

May 11 12 02:15 am Link