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Retoucher

Kopera Retouching

Posts: 74

Savannah, Georgia, US

Hey everyone... So I've been away for awhile and started back in recently.. here's some new work. Client asked me to do some avant garde makeup and pretty much let me run with it... Love to hear your thoughts. I know I'm still not entirely where I'd like to be, but I'm thinking my style is a little more... uh, animated looking than high end retouching (of course) I'm still a beginner and would like to know what you would have done instead, or if I'm headed in the right direction?

Thanks much,

Kymlee

One:

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/1mm.jpg
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/1-4.jpg

Two:

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/2mm.jpg
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/2-3.jpg

Three:

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/3mm.jpg
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/kymleemurphy/3-3.jpg

Jul 22 12 01:49 pm Link

Digital Artist

Koray

Posts: 6688

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

You are doing everything wrong and going the opposite direction of where everybody else including the beginners are going.

If you are serious about learning photoshop you should first get a book and move on from there...and come back in about a year or so.

Jul 22 12 01:58 pm Link

Retoucher

Kopera Retouching

Posts: 74

Savannah, Georgia, US

Koray wrote:
You are doing everything wrong and going the opposite direction of where everybody else including the beginners are going.

If you are serious about learning photoshop you should first get a book and move on from there...and come back in about a year or so.

well seeing as I don't know what I'm doing, what am I doing wrong so I can fix it? That would be better help I think, than just straight up criticism. I'm not trying to do high end retouching right now, because mainly I don't have the equipment for it. My computer can't even handle raw images, only large jpegs. hmm

Jul 22 12 02:01 pm Link

Digital Artist

Koray

Posts: 6688

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

Kopera Retouching wrote:

well seeing as I don't know what I'm doing, what am I doing wrong so I can fix it? That would be better help I think, than just straight up criticism. I'm not trying to do high end retouching right now, because mainly I don't have the equipment for it. My computer can't even handle raw images, only large jpegs. hmm

You are doing everything wrong and it has nothing to do with your computer or high end retouching. all your approaches, adjustments and techniques are wrong. your eye is apparently not trained which lets you post horrible images like above.

Dont be upset. watch videos like these for techniques:
http://www.youtube.com/user/jonaswtuts/videos

and also get a book and learn the basics and keep it around for reference when needed.

Jul 22 12 02:08 pm Link

Retoucher

Kopera Retouching

Posts: 74

Savannah, Georgia, US

I'm not upset per se, just trying to understand why they're horrible. I've seen much worse with not so harsh feedback but, eh... anyways, thanks for the link, I just subscribed and I'll check out the videos.

Jul 22 12 02:13 pm Link

Digital Artist

Koray

Posts: 6688

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

dont be upset. its hard to bend a grown up tree but you are just starting and I've seen alot people here who were as bad and got better than me and became working full time pros. you just need to work hard thats all smile

and here is a website of a great retoucher with some rollover before and afters so you can train your eyes:
http://www.redlanternstudio.com/closer_look/1.html

Jul 22 12 02:22 pm Link

Photographer

Brick Wilson

Posts: 370

Carol Stream, Illinois, US

The first issue is that you started with bad photos and didn't try to fix them: low res files, bad lighting, wrinkly background sheets with seams.

On the bottom it looks like you ran a posterizing filter which is rarely if ever a good look.  On all of them you're losing details with too much contrast. The hair and eyes just fade into a black mess. The bright colors of the makeup you painted on don't match the values of the rest of the image.

Just take your time and study & practice.

Jul 24 12 11:53 am Link

Retoucher

Pari Retouch

Posts: 693

Nāshik, Maharashtra, India

Brick Wilson wrote:
The first issue is that you started with bad photos and didn't try to fix them: low res files, bad lighting, wrinkly background sheets with seams.

+1
Don't practice to blur, learn the real techniques and start practicing. If you practice what you did to the these pictures then you will reach no where.

Jul 25 12 02:50 am Link

Retoucher

ChelleyCredible Retouch

Posts: 461

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Don't give up. Just practice practice practice!
This doesn't happen instantly for all people.

I like the makeup idea in the 1st image. Makes a significant POP. That was creative. You have darkened too many items in these pictures which has caused a loss of detail. For example the hair, eyebrows, shirt, leggings, lashes...Skin is way too smooth. Skin tone is not the same thru out the image. The makeup in general seemed a bit too much. Looks as if she had just gotten into a physical altercation. Not crisp images. You need to retain the details! Not into the posterization look. Theres also no shadows and highlights carving her body/face.

Sep 04 12 11:11 am Link

Retoucher

BeauTouch

Posts: 48

London, England, United Kingdom

Hi Kymlee,

What I suggest you do is to first start practising on good images - retouching, and I meant beauty and fashion which I assume you're aspiring to, is about enhancing what's already there not fixing. With images you've chosen there's just too many wrong things happening like bad lighting, background - you will never get great results if you use amateur images. You need to think ahead - the images you retouch say a lot about you and the kind of services you provide and if you touch up low res amateur images this is the sort of images you will only be asked to work on. Download files from:

www.editablephotos.com
www.digitalphotoshopretouching.com
http://www.modelmayhem.com/t.php?forum_id=76

Learn the dodging&burning techniques, frequency separation, inverted high pass, healing and cloning - there are loads of free tutorials on Youtube. Then practise, practise, practise.

Good luck and happy retouching!

Sep 09 12 04:19 am Link