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Retoucher

dweekley

Posts: 36

White Plains, New York, US

hi all, if you have a few moments I would appreciate it if you would review my high res retouch file and give me feedback on where to improve. ALSO, concerning the neck in a pose like this, what is more preferred, just lighten the creases or remove one or more? I've not done either yet.

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High res file here:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?x1x109s2c7nkd7t
I don't have the low res uploaded anywhere. I can if that is preferred.
Thanks
Doreen

Sep 11 12 02:47 pm Link

Retoucher

dweekley

Posts: 36

White Plains, New York, US

Gee I've never known this group to be without opinions LOL. ok well i'll leave the link for a couple weeks if anyone has time to do a review... else i'll take it down.

Sep 12 12 05:01 pm Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

I would remove the smaller creases from above and below the second major crease in the neck and give some attention to the flyaway's.

Sep 13 12 02:23 pm Link

Retoucher

dweekley

Posts: 36

White Plains, New York, US

Thanks Mike

Sep 13 12 04:31 pm Link

Retoucher

ChelleyCredible Retouch

Posts: 461

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Yes, everything he said ^ this image is beautiful, just saying! smile

Sep 15 12 02:46 pm Link

Retoucher

dweekley

Posts: 36

White Plains, New York, US

Thanks for the input Chelley. I don't like how my neck edit turned out so will try again. :-)

Sep 16 12 05:23 pm Link

Photographer

bmiSTUDIO

Posts: 1734

Essex Junction, Vermont, US

Creases are normal and natural. I would not remove them totally. It would make the model look strange. I usually just lighten/soften them a bit so they aren't as defined. It's the same technique I use when I retouch a portrait and need to soften wrinkles in older subjects. Removing wrinkles altogether would be idiotic. Let the model look human.

Sep 16 12 05:30 pm Link

Retoucher

dweekley

Posts: 36

White Plains, New York, US

bmiSTUDIO wrote:
Creases are normal and natural. I would not remove them totally. It would make the model look strange. I usually just lighten/soften them a bit so they aren't as defined. It's the same technique I use when I retouch a portrait and need to soften wrinkles in older subjects. Removing wrinkles altogether would be idiotic. Let the model look human.

This is the main reason that I ask the question. I see both approaches but don't really know which is more common, leaving them, removing them, lightening them, maybe it just depends and is usually a mix. I was looking for thoughts from the community. Thanks for yours.

Sep 17 12 03:34 am Link

Retoucher

AKMac

Posts: 330

London, England, United Kingdom

Normally I find that creases in the neck, when the head is rotated, the armpits etc are best made less definite, but not completely removed. They are not natural focal points in an image, and when backed off are usually not noticed at all by most viewers.

IHP (inverted high pass) is a very effective and quick way of achieving this result if you are in a hurry, or want to spend your quality retouching time on the face rather than someone's armpit. Basically what it does, if you get the right setting, is to reduce the strength of the areas of light and shadow along either side of each individual crease while still leaving the actual crease intact. You need to play with the setting to get the optimum effect. I tend to be wary of using IHP, but this is a scenario in which it can save a great amount of valuable time, without making the retouch look artificial.

Alastair

www.akmacretouch.com

Sep 18 12 12:18 pm Link