Forums > Model Colloquy > why models are 102 yrs old

Photographer

Diane Diederich

Posts: 84

Stafford Springs, Connecticut, US

It sucks when you are actually LOOKING for older models:)

Sep 25 12 06:03 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Daemon

Posts: 345

West Hazleton, Pennsylvania, US

Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:

You seem to be asking for a more complete statement of the answer, I'll try.

Because they do not wish to be searched for, selected, compared, or judged based on the criteria of age.

Then is modeling the right career choice? I have never heard of a model being hired or selected without the criteria of age, or at least an "age range" that the model fits.

Sep 25 12 06:08 am Link

Photographer

NC Art Photos

Posts: 567

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

Jordan Bunniie wrote:

They dont want to be found in search.

Follow-up question - why have a profile on Model Mayhem to begin with if you don't want to be found in a search based on age, gender, race, stats, height and weight? 

What is this supposed to be - Facebook for models and photographers?

All are criteria I am asked to use to sort for selecting models to interview and hire for paying assignments.

Sep 25 12 06:13 am Link

Model

V Laroche

Posts: 2746

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

NC Art Photos wrote:

Follow-up question - why have a profile on Model Mayhem to begin with if you don't want to be found in a search based on age, gender, race, stats, height and weight? 

What is this supposed to be - Facebook for models and photographers?

Uh, yeah

Sep 25 12 09:51 am Link

Photographer

PTPhotoUT

Posts: 1961

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

V Laroche wrote:

Uh, yeah

You know, V, I don't think I ever looked at your age on your profile until today. Yet somehow I found you. Maybe you wish I hadn't, but it wasn't that hard. But once I saw how old you are, I'm impressed. Can I get an AARP discount?

All kidding aside the age means nothing to me and I support your right to post what ever you please. Even if it does make me giggle when I see it.

Sep 25 12 10:03 am Link

Model

Stormee

Posts: 2463

San Antonio, Texas, US

Sep 26 12 10:22 am Link

Photographer

STUDIO A B

Posts: 413

New York, New York, US

THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY THERE OVER 20 YEARS  OLDER WOMEN ARE VERY SEXY!!

michel

Sep 26 12 10:34 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8388

Olney, Maryland, US

Diane Diederich  wrote:
It sucks when you are actually LOOKING for older models:)

+1

Sep 26 12 10:42 am Link

Photographer

rp_photo

Posts: 42495

Houston, Texas, US

sdgillis wrote:
Searching based on model stats is generally useless. Better off searching by "last time on" and limit it to..... Logged in within: 7 days in your area.  otherwise you are just investing in no answer/flakes regardless of stats.

Very true.

Sep 26 12 12:26 pm Link

Photographer

Gentlemarine

Posts: 249

Waldorf, Maryland, US

To be honest, if someone 102 asked to model for me I would totally be there for them.

1. Craggy old faces look cool in black and white.
2. My boy scout instinct says to help the old lady cross the street.
3. Its unusual.
4. The nudes would be good gag gifts. 


Sorry for my randomness lol.

Sep 26 12 07:55 pm Link

Model

K I C K H A M

Posts: 14636

Los Angeles, California, US

Dan OMell wrote:
> Hahahahahahahahaha. No, no. Vogue doesn't search MM.

not sure about Vogue, but the modern scouting agents find the new models (including 5-15 yo kids) in abandoned lands, in Siberian taiga and remote deserts...

you never know how they get a tip-off, plus the MM info data is collected by google, after all and pics are processed by image recognition software automatically

PhotoVogue Italy Online in their efforts to seek the new talented photogs, accepts the submissions from everybody (for free, and not like many "competitions" where you're supposed to pay sometimes outrageous entry fees), and the best pics go to their printed version.

And, like I said before, if a girl IS 26, and she SAYS she is 26, Vogue will not be interested upon finding her.

Please, read.

Girls shouldn't be worried about not being found on a site that no one high up takes seriously anyway, they have to worry more about their day to day lives.

Sep 27 12 12:56 am Link

Model

Rachell Kraze

Posts: 10

NEPTUNE, New Jersey, US

I met a fulltime freelance alternative/fetish model once who told me that she had to lie about her location because she has "stalkers", which doesn't surprise me for a beautiful alternative/fetish model so I guess that and the age thing is just a way of throwing off the creepers tongue

Sep 30 12 09:08 pm Link

Photographer

Camerosity

Posts: 5317

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

V Laroche wrote:
Why the fuck would Vogue be looking for models on MM? Christ.

For their next "Girls of MM" issue, of course. lol

Sep 30 12 09:18 pm Link

Photographer

john_ellis

Posts: 4375

Spokane, Washington, US

K I C K H A M wrote:
Girls shouldn't be worried about not being found on a site that no one high up takes seriously anyway, they have to worry more about their day to day lives.

It's possible that many don't want to be found via the "search" function by photographers, and would instead prefer to wait for casting calls that they can choose to reply to.

That's my guess anyway.




Either that, or they're hoping that casting agents for Depends search MM for models.

Sep 30 12 09:19 pm Link

Photographer

William Kious

Posts: 8841

Delphos, Ohio, US

Models setting their age to 100+ does NOT eliminate them from the search function. That little "bug" was fixed some time ago. Do a browse... 3643 female models are currently members here who are centenarians.

Setting an age to 100+ is only going to eliminate those who search based on a narrowed age range. Period.

It's just one thing that severely limits the usefulness of this website at times. I wonder how much membership would drop if a simple script was written to eliminate members who haven't logged in within the last, say, two years. I'm guessing it would lead to a drop of at least 20% (if not much more.) I guess having 707,314 "active" members is a more impressive number to lure potential advertisers. wink

Sep 30 12 09:41 pm Link

Photographer

Wysiwyg Photography

Posts: 6326

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

William Kious wrote:
Models setting their age to 100+ does NOT eliminate them from the search function. That little "bug" was fixed some time ago. Do a browse... 3643 female models are currently members here who are centenarians.

Setting an age to 100+ is only going to eliminate those who search based on a narrowed age range. Period.

It's just one thing that severely limits the usefulness of this website at times. I wonder how much membership would drop if a simple script was written to eliminate members who haven't logged in within the last, say, two years. I'm guessing it would lead to a drop of at least 20% (if not much more.) I guess having 707,314 "active" members is a more impressive number to lure potential advertisers. wink

I will agree to a point, though for me.. that would be a bonus. and a REASON to be a member.

If someone could filter out when the last time someone logged in.. I would totally implement and use that filter.
As it stands, when I have a gig coming up, I only use two filters "Model" and "Nudes: Yes".
so, even the "102" year olds come up.. and like I said earlier.. I actually have eyes to look at the photos to see if this "102" year old fits the look I am going for.

Diane Diederich  wrote:
It sucks when you are actually LOOKING for older models:)

I feel the age filter is just a guide to give you a starting point.

If you are looking for an "older model" and lets say you happened across a model that her real age was around 26 or so but lets say life wasn't to kind to her and she actually LOOKED like she was in her 40s (met one not too long ago, but didn't say anything about it of course.)... then using her for a "older model" would work no?

Oct 01 12 12:53 am Link

Model

Ladyartist

Posts: 9

Nuneaton, England, United Kingdom

What are you supposed to look like when you are in your 40's ? I'm 40+

Oct 01 12 02:04 am Link

Photographer

William Kious

Posts: 8841

Delphos, Ohio, US

Wysiwyg Photography wrote:
If someone could filter out when the last time someone logged in.. I would totally implement and use that filter.

You sorta can by using the "Logged in within..." filter. I usually set that to within the past 10 days. Beyond that, chances are you're getting a bunch of semi-active members.

Oct 03 12 03:37 am Link

Model

margavandervet

Posts: 190

Emmen, Drenthe, Netherlands

I am proud of my age !  And if I miss some jobs because of the search-options, than so be it....

Oct 03 12 03:51 am Link

Photographer

BT Imagery

Posts: 1017

Cedar Falls, Iowa, US

rp_photo wrote:
Because for some reason, MM refuses to consider "n/a" as an age option.

Sure wish my age would be 'non applicable'! lol.

Oct 03 12 12:16 pm Link

Photographer

Black Sunshine

Posts: 811

Austin, Texas, US

1. Why not just have a "don't include me in searches" option?
2. MM is a dirty word in the professional magazine scene as is TF

Oct 03 12 12:20 pm Link

Photographer

john_ellis

Posts: 4375

Spokane, Washington, US

Black Sunshine wrote:
1. Why not just have a "don't include me in searches" option?

Pfft.  How come you hafta be all "making sense" and shit here, huh???

Really great suggestion, but it seems like this site is more about "keeping things the same" more than they are about changing with or towards the industry.

Oct 03 12 12:27 pm Link

Photographer

Lee Nutter

Posts: 160

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Usually, aside from geographical constraints, my only search parameter is that the model is older than 18yo. I'll take a look at their pictures and decide if they fit my concept. Dress and cup size says almost nothing about a person. So, even 102yo models will come up in my searches smile

Oct 08 12 09:01 pm Link

Model

Miroslava Svoboda

Posts: 555

Seattle, Washington, US

Wysiwyg Photography wrote:
so, even the "102" year olds come up.. and like I said earlier.. I actually have eyes to look at the photos to see if this "102" year old fits the look I am going for.

I feel the age filter is just a guide to give you a starting point.

If you are looking for an "older model" and lets say you happened across a model that her real age was around 26 or so but lets say life wasn't to kind to her and she actually LOOKED like she was in her 40s (met one not too long ago, but didn't say anything about it of course.)... then using her for a "older model" would work no?

Exactly why I wouldn't put my age on there. If a photographer can't discern my age then probably that age filter is useless anyways.

Oct 08 12 09:11 pm Link

Photographer

SugarSharai photography

Posts: 387

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

K I C K H A M wrote:

Hahahahahahahahaha. No, no. Vogue doesn't search MM.

Also, if they are putting 102, they are likely either not wanting to be searched (and a lot of people looking for young models put a max age, like 24, and it leaves them out), or they are above the age range that would be ideal anyway (16-22ish). Vogue doesn't go searching for 27 year-old models.

So, if they're 27 and look 21, why do they not put 21 or 22, something believable? Outside the not being searchable, they may not want to be misleading. If someone says they are 21 and they are 25, if you find out, you might get mad because you BELIEVED they were 21. If someone says they are 102, either you don't believe it, or you're entirely too gullible.

Obviously, this ^.    They just dont want their age known period... End of story.    You cant "lie" about it, because thats misleading... You can choose to hold back information however.    Sometimes age shouldnt matter, an perhaps any photographer who is looking for a specific age range is not looking for what other photographers are?    Example: grade 12 girl looks old enough to be a 19th century mother in a fashion shoot she did.. (How old is this... Do we know?   Nope... Could be 15...   However she was very well dressed, and looked about 30.)


Either way, its about the "look" not how long they have HAD it for, or how long it has left to be  there for...

Oct 08 12 09:25 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 28008

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Ladyartist wrote:
What are you supposed to look like when you are in your 40's ? I'm 40+

Some 40+ models look fantastic.  Some don't.  I have photographed 4 great looking 40+ models.  One just sent me a PM tonight about a shoot.

Oct 08 12 09:29 pm Link

Model

Princess Dasha

Posts: 57

Malmö, Skåne, Sweden

I am a 100 years old. I would ask of you to respect that i did not fake my age for the sake of MM! I was born a while back and have been drinking pineapple juice ever since just to keep myself from developing elephant skin! big_smile

Kidding aside... I'd say like many other scouting website/business networking websites MM should definitely have a virtual age setting and an actual age setting because if someone is serious about hiring a model they would care about what they deliver visually in the age range the client is looking for, not how old they really are on their birth certificate.

Oct 09 12 03:50 am Link

Model

Retiredmodel

Posts: 7884

Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom

PashaPhoto wrote:

i think it's been fixed, but at some point setting your age to over 100 basically made sure that search wouldn't find you at all... and i mean at all...

keep in mind, some people don't want to be found by everyone smile

This is true. People forget for models this is a portfolio hosting site and it is quite possible to use it for purely that purpose. I have spoken to two agency models here under pseudonyms who don't want to be found in searches but want to use the port hosting to canvas for work themselves - and not necessarily among MM members.

Oct 09 12 05:14 am Link

Model

Aaliyah Love

Posts: 113

Los Angeles, California, US

JoJo wrote:

for the same reason a 22 year old photographer can 'boast' 10 years of professional experience but want to TF with models to expand their port past 5 images of their girlfriend.

lol:)

Oct 15 12 02:14 am Link

Photographer

SPierce Photography

Posts: 19791

Amherst, Massachusetts, US

Has it ever occurred that people do that SO they don't turn up in searches?

Oct 15 12 04:11 am Link

Photographer

Bob Freund

Posts: 884

Prescott, Arizona, US

Because there are a lot of 122 year old photographers out there.

Oct 15 12 04:17 am Link

Model

Lea Eden

Posts: 32

Glastonbury, England, United Kingdom

How refreshing, my partner is a photographer, he and I agree 100%, well said that Man smile


Wysiwyg Photography wrote:
Every single time I see a thread that 'addresses' this concern... it makes me think "Why do you even care?"

Does your camera magically photograph a number associated with the would-be llama and there for MUST have a llama of a given age?

Models that put 100  as their age don't WANT to be searched.
Some actually get discriminated against if they put their true age instead of the age they LOOK LIKE!

Look at a fuckin' photo and if they have the look you need, it shouldn't matter if they are 18 or 50... the look fits your needs.

Also... please post a reputable agency where the llama's age is attached to their portfolio.

Oct 15 12 01:26 pm Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 21684

Portland, Oregon, US

Y'see -- I always assumed that if you don't specify your birth year, MM automatically says you are 100 years old.  See, I assume that the model is not choosing to say she's 100 years old; it's just a bug feature of MM's implementation.  Then, on the anniversary of your joining, MM adds 1 to your age.

But I don't know -- I just assume.

Oct 15 12 01:34 pm Link

Model

The Red Menace

Posts: 26

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Gary Melton wrote:
A few models have found a workaround...I've noticed several models whose profiles display no age at all...

Oh, I would love to know how- I'd like to not include my age.

Oct 17 12 05:02 am Link