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Annamarie Chase

Posts: 51

Dobbs Ferry, New York, US

Im 5 feet 3 and shoot atleast 4 paid shoots a week. It all depends what you want to do and what else your willing to do. Ive done some tv commercials also which have lead to more modeling as well. Like anything half of it is who you know and than of course you.

Sep 30 12 04:39 pm Link

Model

Raquel Rayne

Posts: 1186

New York, New York, US

I'm 5'2", and have a blast modeling as a hobby. I shoot mainly nudes, though.

Sep 30 12 04:46 pm Link

Body Painter

Extreme Body Art

Posts: 4932

West Jordan, Utah, US

B R E N N A N wrote:
Huh? Have you looked at a fashion magazine? Ever?

If OP has any hopes of making it as a full time model, she will have to do nudes.

hmm

Well.. though I agree with your statement to some degree... there are a lot of models that "make it" and don't do nudes.

It's about law of averages and you are, of course, spot on about it being easier to make it IF they do nudes.

But no one HAS TO do nudes to make it...  (depending on what the definition of "making it" actually is).

Kelly Anne-Marie wrote:
I was told by some members on this site that short people can't do fashion.

The chances of a short model doing fashion is very slim... it's the exception to the rule if they break into the fashion industry and likely they are famous and already have a name for themselves.

There are plenty of freelance fashion models out there that claim to do fashion and a few I'm sure get hired.. but chances that they get represented by a MODEL agency is pretty slim and more likely to get represented by a TALENT agency.

Sep 30 12 04:58 pm Link

Model

B R E N N A N

Posts: 4148

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Annamarie Chase wrote:
Im 5 feet 3 and shoot atleast 4 paid shoots a week. It all depends what you want to do and what else your willing to do. Ive done some tv commercials also which have lead to more modeling as well. Like anything half of it is who you know and than of course you.

You only have 9 credits/photographers listed on your bio???

Sep 30 12 08:06 pm Link

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B R E N N A N

Posts: 4148

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Extreme Body Art wrote:

hmm

Well.. though I agree with your statement to some degree... there are a lot of models that "make it" and don't do nudes......

It's about law of averages and you are, of course, spot on about it being easier to make it IF they do nudes.

But no one HAS TO do nudes to make it...  (depending on what the definition of "making it" actually is).


The chances of a short model doing fashion is very slim... it's the exception to the rule if they break into the fashion industry and likely they are famous and already have a name for themselves.

There are plenty of freelance fashion models out there that claim to do fashion and a few I'm sure get hired.. but chances that they get represented by a MODEL agency is pretty slim and more likely to get represented by a TALENT agency.

MY definition of making it: shooting a major campaign/making your living doing this.

Name me other models that have "made it" at 5'2" and don't shoot nudes.

Sep 30 12 08:08 pm Link

Photographer

Wysiwyg Photography

Posts: 6326

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

B R E N N A N wrote:

MY definition of making it: shooting a major campaign/making your living doing this.

Name me other models that have "made it" at 5'2" and don't shoot nudes.

Under your definition.
I cannot.

I was just saying, Freelance would be the way to go if she wanted to try as there wouldn't be any model agency out there representing her anytime soon. And April Berry isn't really agency standard, but I hear she does alright.. But she is freelance.
even under our favorite quoted website newmodels.com, equates being a fashion model at 5'2" equal to being struck by lightning.
SO I was agreeing with you..
But it's just a matter of... Does she want to play the lotto?
Chances are she will lose so you DID give her the realistic answer.. but some models just have to learn for themselves.

Oct 01 12 01:07 am Link

Model

B R E N N A N

Posts: 4148

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Wysiwyg Photography wrote:

Under your definition.
I cannot.

I was just saying, Freelance would be the way to go if she wanted to try as there wouldn't be any model agency out there representing her anytime soon. And April Berry isn't really agency standard, but I hear she does alright.. But she is freelance.
even under our favorite quoted website newmodels.com, equates being a fashion model at 5'2" equal to being struck by lightning.
SO I was agreeing with you..
But it's just a matter of... Does she want to play the lotto?
Chances are she will lose so you DID give her the realistic answer.. but some models just have to learn for themselves.

April Berry is also 5'6"......

Oct 01 12 04:51 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11909

Olivet, Michigan, US

Annamarie Chase wrote:
Im 5 feet 3 and shoot atleast 4 paid shoots a week. It all depends what you want to do and what else your willing to do. Ive done some tv commercials also which have lead to more modeling as well. Like anything half of it is who you know and than of course you.

B R E N N A N wrote:
You only have 9 credits/photographers listed on your bio???

It's great to have clients who book you repeatedly.  smile

Oct 01 12 05:36 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11909

Olivet, Michigan, US

Wysiwyg Photography wrote:
Under your definition.
I cannot.

I was just saying, Freelance would be the way to go if she wanted to try as there wouldn't be any model agency out there representing her anytime soon. And April Berry isn't really agency standard, but I hear she does alright.. But she is freelance.
even under our favorite quoted website newmodels.com, equates being a fashion model at 5'2" equal to being struck by lightning.
SO I was agreeing with you..
But it's just a matter of... Does she want to play the lotto?
Chances are she will lose so you DID give her the realistic answer.. but some models just have to learn for themselves.

B R E N N A N wrote:
April Berry is also 5'6"......

And April Berry has the look of a fashion model, and she does "nearly nude."  She's also very hard working and really nice, which helps with referrals and rebookings.

Oct 01 12 05:38 am Link

Photographer

Sungoddess Studios

Posts: 5169

Atlantic Highlands, New Jersey, US

Most promotional models are short.

Oct 01 12 05:42 am Link

Photographer

Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 1580

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

First of all you are gorgeous and proportioned nicely... It is n apparent that you are 5'2"

You could try parts modeling and btw nothing wrong with nude art modeling. That is a niche that might pay well when your ready to try it

Oct 03 12 08:54 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13233

Nashville, Tennessee, US

To quote the OP's bio.

"* i dont do nudes, so dont ask
** impiled yes, but not for trade, only paid"

Fashion isn't your avenue regardless of where you are. You boxed yourself in with your preferences, do it for fun is my advice.

Oct 03 12 09:03 pm Link

Model

Hillary K Frazier

Posts: 31

Savannah, Georgia, US

I think if you work hard enough you can do anything you set your mind to! just keep
trucking as we say in georgia lol smile GOOD LUCK!

Oct 06 12 03:34 pm Link

Model

K_G

Posts: 2930

Detroit, Michigan, US

Leia kiana wrote:
Please someone help. I'm 19 and short. 5'2 to be exact and I live in a state in whih most anything as far as modeling can be achieved. Virginia isn't the state at the top for fashion. I have been working my ass of for over a year trying to be represented by an agency and nothing. I haven't and won't give up. I understand I will never be runway but I have a sense for fashion and the whole fashion shooting is what I dream.

What advice can you give me?
Thanks

How about going into working as a Stylist or going to school to learn Fashion Design? I know a gal around here who started as a fashion model, but our area isn't big for fashion. She eventually started styling shoots for a magazine about style in our metro area and is doing a great job! I know it doesn't pay much, but it is something she really enjoys and she continues to make lots of contacts in the industry through this! I did a quick search through my linkedin account just to see what was out there. Linkedin isn't everything, but it was an interesting glimpse into the business side of fashion and what kinds of jobs are needed in that industry: http://www.linkedin.com/jobs/ir-Apparel … a/19-us-70

The fashion modeling isn't everything there is in the industry. wink

Oct 07 12 06:47 pm Link

Photographer

denis071

Posts: 102

Sarajevo, Federacija Bosna i Hercegovina, Bosnia and Herzegovina

i wouldn't count on the runway but for the magazines where you are alone on the picture (regardless is it nude or not) you should be fine. a good photographer will know how to make a picture without holding a ruler next to your body - or anything that can present your real size. outfit can be a problem but nothing that good tailor can't fix it. it is just an issue of additional effort for you and crew arround you.

just don't stop trying becouse others told you that there is no hope.

best of luck.

Oct 09 12 05:45 am Link

Photographer

ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

I don't believe you "have to do nudes", although I'm sure you would be in great demand if you did. smile But, I sure don't believe it's a "MUST DO" for you to find success.

You could stay plenty busy right here on Mayhem just shooting simple non-nude/implied Glamour-type shots.

However, I think you may have more luck if you put together a "Lifestyle" type of look in your portfolio. Perhaps try a sports/swimsuit and/or outdoor athletic type of emphasis.
Something like this...
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/2213204/viewall

You have a GREAT natural look, take advantage of it...
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120711/18/4ffe2325a8c37_m.jpg

Oct 09 12 08:39 am Link

Model

K_G

Posts: 2930

Detroit, Michigan, US

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
You have a GREAT natural look, take advantage of it...
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120711/18/4ffe2325a8c37_m.jpg

It appears the original poster has left, but I am going to say I really like ArtisticGlamour's comment above and I have to see I agree. I would like to ask if the original poster ever tried acting or even considered it? Reason why I ask is regarding the photo above. It's a wonderful photo which shows true emotion, something that is hard to do for a lot of models! I don't know if acting is something she would ever want to do, but if so, take a few classes, try it, and if you don't like it, you don't have to pursue it. But it will get you in front of the camera taking on all kinds of different roles. I have heard some of my acting friends tell me that they love what they do because they feel like when they were a kid, playing a character in their backyard! You can be anyone you want and "try on" different roles. Just a possibility, especially if she doesn't want to do nudes. Nudes are not for everyone and no one should ever feel pressured into doing them.

Oct 11 12 06:33 pm Link

Photographer

HerTattoos

Posts: 23

San Diego, California, US

If you are 5 feet into inches you are clearly a glamour model don't get your yourself towards something that is not your particular roll

Oct 12 12 11:19 pm Link

Photographer

DMesser Photography

Posts: 1288

Oceanside, California, US

Anna Adrielle wrote:
you are close to Shon D. I am officially jealous, he's amazing smile

if you are serious about making this into somewhat of a career, chances are you'll have to venture into nudes at some point.

if you're just in it for the fun and have nice pictures, then just do whatever you want to do smile

good luck!

+1, Well said and that tells her what she needs to know as either professional (nudes) or hobby (anything she wants for pictures)

Oct 12 12 11:46 pm Link

Photographer

DG at studio47

Posts: 2365

East Ridge, Tennessee, US

catalog, parts modeling, ads, glamor, alternative, spokes model,.........best wishes.

Oct 13 12 12:04 am Link

Photographer

BodyIndustry

Posts: 269

Washington, District of Columbia, US

B R E N N A N wrote:

Huh? Have you looked at a fashion magazine? Ever?

If OP has any hopes of making it as a full time model, she will have to do nudes.

+1

Oct 13 12 12:52 am Link

Photographer

Mark

Posts: 2908

New York, New York, US

throw in the towel

Oct 15 12 10:30 pm Link