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AMPhotgraphy

Posts: 443

Great Falls, Virginia, US

Hey all.  I'm wondering what you guys use for a proofing site?  For awhile I've used flickr but I don't like it anymore.  Models can easily download images off there and display the shitty low res ones on facebook and stuff, even though I tell them not too.  "oops, I misunderstood, sorry!"  yeah right, whatever.

What do you guys use?  I usually have a lot of proofs so I need something that can handle a LOT of images.

Oct 07 12 08:12 pm Link

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-JAY-

Posts: 6710

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Oct 07 12 08:35 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32234

Woodinville, Washington, US

I use PhotoReflect.

The user interface is good, except getting into it can get a little bogged down with announcements.  And it's made more for selling prints than showing proofs. You can show proofs, but you still need to attach a dummy purchase schedule for the online shopping cart no proofs viewer should need. Right-click download is disabled.

Paying clients like it and models referencing proofs seem to, too. The only complaints I've gotten were from one science fair parent.

Uploading proofs into a password-protected online album is pretty easy. Backup and recovery options are pretty much nonexistent.

PhotoReflect takes a percentage of sales, but doesn't charge for non-sale use (such as proofs albums).

Oct 07 12 09:22 pm Link

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Jon Tiffin

Posts: 1041

San Antonio, Texas, US

Dropbox with watermarked images, keeps it private.
Or do a smugmug account and code for no right-click save feature.

Oct 07 12 09:30 pm Link

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Jon Tiffin

Posts: 1041

San Antonio, Texas, US

Dropbox with watermarked images, keeps it private.
Or do a smugmug account and code for no right-click save feature.



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Oct 07 12 09:30 pm Link

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R80

Posts: 2602

Marceline, Missouri, US

I do a lot of work around the country so have to proof online regularly.  I use Instaproofs.  Been there for years and have always had good luck with them.  I pay them a 15 or 16% commission but it's worth it because folks can order with a cc and they pay the company their fee, not our studio.

Oct 07 12 09:37 pm Link

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imcFOTO

Posts: 579

Bothell, Washington, US

All my images (clients proofs and final images as well as my main content) go on my website hosted by zenfolio. (www.imcfoto.com). For $100 a year, I not only get the website and tools but I get unlimited upload capacity. I currently have over 12,000 client proofs and finals. Plus it has all the tools for allowing client selection and emailing of favorites lists back to me.

All my proofs are unedited downsized jpgs. Right-click save is disabled as are downloads from zenfolio. But they could do screen capture I guess. I never watermark proofs since its hard enough to work out which are good shots anyway since they are small jpgs. It's not perfect but it seems to work out.

Oct 07 12 09:59 pm Link

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photoimager

Posts: 4906

Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom

Anything you post online can be copied so if you do not want this possibility you need to be looking for another medium.

Personally - I upload a page to my webspace and if I have any doubt about the other person/peoples ability to understand that they are not for re-posting then I make sure that they are covered with text that says this.

From a charity photoshoot on top of Yr Wyddfa ( Snowdon to the Luddites )
http://www.willsphotoimaging.co.uk/Images/GHD/GDH-Wales-230912-091.jpg

Oct 07 12 10:45 pm Link

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Mike Collins

Posts: 1927

Orlando, Florida, US

Showing them to the model either right afterwards or in the near future works very well.  If they had time to shoot with me they have time to come back and go over the images.  Or we do it right after the shoot.  No charges to anyone online.  We get each others opinions.  And I don't have to wait for them to make up their minds which ones they like.  Going over the shots doesn't really take that long.

I also do that with my portrait work.  I usually go over the "originals" right after the sitting.

Oct 08 12 06:13 am Link

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Supermodel Photographer

Posts: 3309

Oyster Bay, New York, US

-JAY- wrote:

+0

Oct 08 12 06:24 am Link

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Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9224

Pelham, New York, US

photoimager wrote:
Anything you post online can be copied so if you do not want this possibility you need to be looking for another medium.

Personally - I upload a page to my webspace and if I have any doubt about the other person/peoples ability to understand that they are not for re-posting then I make sure that they are covered with text that says this.

From a charity photoshoot on top of Yr Wyddfa ( Snowdon to the Luddites )
http://www.willsphotoimaging.co.uk/Images/GHD/GDH-Wales-230912-091.jpg

Sometimes I have seen pics in model ports with a huge PROOF watermark, never stopped them LOL

Oct 08 12 08:24 am Link

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Adoria Photography

Posts: 26

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

I have a custom built wordpress gallery based on the nextgen gallery plugin. It displays about 30 images per page. When the previews are moused over a preview zoom window appears to show detail for part of the image.  Buttons are provided to order prints/images in various sizes, post-processing requirements (desired re-rcropping etc) are captured when images are being added to the shopping cart.
Woocommerce is used for the online shopping cart.

You can access a sample preview gallery here:
https://adoriaphotography.com.au/wp1/pr … -310712-2/       (use password: fashion030)

Disclaimer: The images displayed are not fully processed - its not a portfolio gallery, just for proofing.

Oct 08 12 08:42 am Link

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ontherocks

Posts: 22622

Salem, Oregon, US

i make web galleries with aperture (or lightroom) and post them on one of our web sites. lightroom has built-in ftp whereas with aperture i have to use a separate ftp program (i use one called transmit).

dropbox is also a popular way of transferring files to models/customers.

Oct 08 12 08:53 am Link

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DBIphotography Toronto

Posts: 3228

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Zenfolio. My website is a masked Zen site. It has the option to create proofing albums for clients, which you can set downloadable or not downloadable. Screen-captures can still be made, but this is a pain in the arse for most ppl. It also makes selecting images for retouching easy, since the client does not need to specify the filename. They never tell you "number 4, 7, 11, and 34 pleeze", or some stupidity that makes you need to go through them and guess if you have the right ones. They tag them, your page tells you via email by filename. Kinda. (Long explanation, and I'm not employed by them to provide sales-pitches!)

It also has a secured login section, where the client may enter with a password alone. You may also set the page to request their email address when they sign-in to make their selections, where you may send the images to them afterwards.

Zenfolio.

Although I skimmed sections of this thread slightly, I read it fairly closely. I saw no posts relating to what may be a bigger concern than you realize; have you considered computing-power necessary??? Compared to your D60, there is a *lot of difference in either the D600 and D800. And being fairly honest, if I were in your shoes I'd get the D600 not the 800 for lower-cost (since the D600 will be more of a "learning-tool" adjusting to FF anyhoo), as well as an array of other differences between the two formats and their places in the Nikon lineup. 24 MP is *far more than "enough" to print full-pafe images - IMHO. Research sensor-size and detail retained, and how the larger photosites of a FF sensor make a world of difference. I sell stock through my website, which I shoot both with my D90 backup (12.3 MP) and my D3 (12.1 MP). I dislike shooting full-bodies in low-light conditions with the higher-MP D90, but the D3 I resample the images to 17.35 MP roughly every time. The D600 will be a huge improvement, and by the time you've learnt how to best take advantage of the FF format we'll be blabbing about D900 vs D650 or some shit tongue

Ðanny
http://www.dbiphotography.com (Blog On Site) 

Oct 08 12 01:20 pm Link

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Leo Howard

Posts: 6799

Phoenix, Arizona, US

I have my own online proofing setup on my website, it allows clients to preview and order images/prints/discs/memory sticks and pay with their credit cards, or they can print out the order form and mail it in with their payment in the form of check or money order.

Oct 08 12 05:05 pm Link

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imcFOTO

Posts: 579

Bothell, Washington, US

Mike Collins wrote:
Showing them to the model either right afterwards or in the near future works very well.  If they had time to shoot with me they have time to come back and go over the images.  Or we do it right after the shoot.  No charges to anyone online.  We get each others opinions.  And I don't have to wait for them to make up their minds which ones they like.  Going over the shots doesn't really take that long.

I also do that with my portrait work.  I usually go over the "originals" right after the sitting.

I suppose we're all different. I did try that but for many reasons I don't think it works (for me anyway). After a 3 or 4 hr shoot, I just want a beer, and a chat to unwind.

I do make a point of skimming thru with the model if we haven't already (I upload after each set so I've already been doing some quality checks) and I always discuss editing ideas (e.g. the kind of level of finishing I plan to do - important when you might be dealing with a model with skin problems or who doesn't like certain aspects of herself. For instance, I don't just assume everyone wants me to slim their waist, stretch their necks and defreckle them :-)

I just prefer to approach the down-selection photos with a fresh eye (usually the next day). Then I can be a little more detached and judge the image itself (and perhaps think less about how we got it).

Oct 08 12 08:25 pm Link

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BeauRidgePhotography

Posts: 1

Atlantic City, New Jersey, US

I make a watermarked PDF with Adobe Bridge.

Feb 09 13 07:35 pm Link

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Schultz Photography

Posts: 7

Tavistock, Ontario, Canada

I use the Backpack feature of LiveDrive. Backed up AND easy to share. Nothing fancy, but its stupid easy to use. Much like Dropbox, but with a 500GB limit. I used http://www.iozeta.com/ 's version of LiveDrive. Its cheaper than LiveDrive direct. + apps on all the mobile devices and compatible with mobile browsers. Win win all around.

Feb 09 13 08:14 pm Link

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realistgva

Posts: 441

Plan-les-Ouates, Geneva, Switzerland

On my website next to my wordpress blog I have Pictures Pro http://www.picturespro.com/photo-cart/add-ons/ it has a Proofing add-in works great and easy to integrate with the gallery/cart once approved.

Would love to use Zenofil or SmugMug but neither offer printing or payment for Switzerland or translations

Feb 10 13 01:02 am Link

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Charger Photography

Posts: 1720

San Antonio, Texas, US

I make a PDF contact sheet ,,, smile and don't have to worry about un edited pics showing up un FB. LOL

Feb 10 13 01:08 am Link

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KA Style

Posts: 1583

Syracuse, New York, US

I use Zenfolio for proofing if I even proof. I dont do proofing galleries, I pick for TF and paying clients. Part of what they pay for is my eye to select. What they get is a gallery with finished images to share and they can buy from it/download. Depending on the package they purchase.

I only set up proofing by client request if they feel they dont like my selections. Ive had one person ask and they came back with.. we should of just trusted you, you did pick the best.

They can only screen capture using Zenfolio with a big watermark. (if you set up the watermark) I know it does not stop everyone but it stops most from trying to use proofs.

Feb 10 13 05:04 am Link

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Kent Art Photography

Posts: 2930

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

As a slight diversion, many people today don't understand what 'proof' means.

I had a model get very irate because she thought I was sending out pics with 'proof' on them to people in order to prove that she had actually turned up to do the shoot.

Feb 10 13 05:21 am Link