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Derrick_G_FlossyFlick

Posts: 141

Edgewood, Maryland, US

Hello all, I have been shooting with a Nikon D70 with various lens and   images seem to be pretty sharp. I recently been shooting my D200 and been having major issues with photos coming out soft. Is it me or is it a on board setting or something I am missing? I have tried swapping lens, tripod mounting, low light, strobe and all seem to be better on the D70. Is there any suggestions or has anyone else had this issue?
I am sure there is something I am doing wrong here...

Oct 08 12 06:29 pm Link

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Kaouthia

Posts: 3152

Lancaster, England, United Kingdom

Well, the D70 did seem a bit sharper due to the crappy AA filter on it (look at the AC unit in this photo to see what I mean).  My D200 is razor sharp though.

What glass are you testing it with? at what apertures?

Personally, I'd put a 50mm f/1.8D on there, set it to f/8, tripod mount, make sure your focus is dead on, and then see how sharp your D200 is.

Oct 08 12 06:31 pm Link

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You Can Call Me Pierre

Posts: 761

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Is there an AF Fine Tune and is it on?

Oct 08 12 06:34 pm Link

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GPS Studio Services

Posts: 36296

San Francisco, California, US

Also, with the D200, the default in-camera sharpness setting was a little bit soft.  That has been mentioned in all the reviews.  If you bump it up 1 or 2 notches you might get better results.  I have a D200 and that was what I found.

FYI I also have a D70 and that was one of the first things that I noticed as well.

Oct 08 12 06:34 pm Link

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Kaouthia

Posts: 3152

Lancaster, England, United Kingdom

gl-amour wrote:
Is there an AF Fine Tune and is it on?

Neither camera has AF Fine Tune.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about what ei said above, but I shoot RAW, so no sharpening is applied in the camera anyway.

Oct 08 12 06:35 pm Link

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Derrick_G_FlossyFlick

Posts: 141

Edgewood, Maryland, US

I'll try the in camera settings and see if that works!

I used a 50mm f 1.8 at several settings, but I'll try everything I can to get better images. The camera handles like a dream other than that! It's just that from one body to the other there is a sure difference in sharpness. I can shoot with my D70 and almost guarantee a sharp picture everytime.

Oct 08 12 06:43 pm Link

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Marty McBride

Posts: 3132

Owensboro, Kentucky, US

Kaouthia wrote:

Neither camera has AF Fine Tune.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about what ei said above, but I shoot RAW, so no sharpening is applied in the camera anyway.

It can be applied in picture control though. I only shoot raw and adjust hue, saturation, sharpness, and contrast under the standard setting. It makes an obvious difference if you use Nikon View NX to convert your raw to tiffs. Probably no luck going through adobe or another converter though.

Oct 08 12 06:46 pm Link

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Marty McBride

Posts: 3132

Owensboro, Kentucky, US

Derrick_G_FlossyFlick wrote:
Hello all, I have been shooting with a Nikon D70 with various lens and   images seem to be pretty sharp. I recently been shooting my D200 and been having major issues with photos coming out soft. Is it me or is it a on board setting or something I am missing? I have tried swapping lens, tripod mounting, low light, strobe and all seem to be better on the D70. Is there any suggestions or has anyone else had this issue?
I am sure there is something I am doing wrong here...

I always preferred everything about the D200 images over my D70 images, other than 180-200mm on my Nikon 80-200 2.8 lens, where it just went to mush! On my D300s it very sharp, thanks to the AF finetune option.

Oct 08 12 06:49 pm Link

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Derrick_G_FlossyFlick

Posts: 141

Edgewood, Maryland, US

Hey! The +1 option made an improvement indeed... I pushed it to +2 and took several shots with a couple of lens and I feel a bit better now! Images are coming out much sharper.
I shoot RAW sometimes, but the files eat up so much space and it is a pain in post to me. BUT images are so much nicer when starting from a RAW file. But that is another subject in itself.....
Thanks guys!!!

Oct 08 12 07:06 pm Link

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DBIphotography Toronto

Posts: 3227

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Marty McBride wrote:
It can be applied in picture control though. I only shoot raw and adjust hue, saturation, sharpness, and contrast under the standard setting. It makes an obvious difference if you use Nikon View NX to convert your raw to tiffs. Probably no luck going through adobe or another converter though.

The NX-converters apply the Picture Control Settings and the in-camera settings that were used when the image was shot. I didn't get Lightroom 3 til January (February?), and only used View NX/2 til September '11. In NX, you can turn the PCS off, but that's not all that bringht. The PCS' are like presets in other converters. Same shit!

IMHO alone, as always;

Ðanny
http://www.dbiphotography.com (Blog On Site) 

Oct 08 12 11:12 pm Link

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DBIphotography Toronto

Posts: 3227

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Derrick_G_FlossyFlick wrote:
Hey! The +1 option made an improvement indeed... I pushed it to +2 and took several shots with a couple of lens and I feel a bit better now! Images are coming out much sharper.
I shoot RAW sometimes, but the files eat up so much space and it is a pain in post to me. BUT images are so much nicer when starting from a RAW file. But that is another subject in itself.....
Thanks guys!!!

Then I presume you don't shoot RAW then convert to lossless TIFFs 16-bit, hey? 65ish + MB/image-file using that camera? Hehe!

IMHO alone, as always;

Ðanny
http://www.dbiphotography.com (Blog On Site) 

Oct 08 12 11:15 pm Link

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photoimager

Posts: 4906

Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom

If I'm only doing prints up to 9" by 6" ( for example printing onsite at an event ) then I'll happily use my D70 over my D200 if I am tethered since I know the files from it are natively sharper due to the aforementioned weaker AA filter. At times I think there is something wrong with my D700 when the D70 files appear to rival it but pixel count and therefore absolute image size then becomes a factor that makes me 'see the trees in the wood'.

Oct 09 12 02:12 am Link