Forums > Model Colloquy > How to own the makeup, & not the other way around?

Model

Gemma Huh

Posts: 153

London, England, United Kingdom

I've had a few comments about these two pictures that the makeup owns me, rather than me owning the makeup. How would I have switched it up in these pictures, and does anyone have any tips?

Thanks in advance smile

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120927/12/5064ae75a06ed_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120927/12/5064ae87e1139_m.jpg

Oct 18 12 01:09 pm Link

Photographer

Dannielle Levan

Posts: 12857

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)

Oct 18 12 01:12 pm Link

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Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 6546

New York, New York, US

Strangekitty wrote:
Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)

Or in this case, perhaps the MU forum, but I'm not a moderator so I'm not sure.

Oct 18 12 01:29 pm Link

Model

Gemma Huh

Posts: 153

London, England, United Kingdom

Strangekitty wrote:
Post in critique or we can't say anything :< (thems the rules)

Not asking for critique on the images! Just ideas as to how to own the makeup I was given smile

Oct 18 12 01:29 pm Link

Photographer

Darik Datta

Posts: 118

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Tough to comment without critiquing the MUA.

I don't think anyone could "own" that eyeshadow.

Oct 18 12 04:30 pm Link

Photographer

Rob Photosby

Posts: 3197

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

There is a difference between fashion and taste.  Everyone should try to "own" good taste, but fashion is often a different story.

Oct 18 12 05:47 pm Link

Model

Kelleth

Posts: 2531

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Some faces can take more makeup than others. It's a makeup artist's job to make sure the makeup she does is suitable to her subject's face.

Oct 19 12 10:04 am Link

Model

V Laroche

Posts: 2746

Khowmeyn, Markazī, Iran

So "How to make the ownup"?

Oct 19 12 10:17 am Link

Makeup Artist

Raw-Beauty

Posts: 200

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

if you are referring to makeup stands out more than you do, it depends on the shoot, type of pose and what was requested.  the colour used is also important.

if you are referring to who own the rights to the photo, the photographer owns the photograph but as for the makeup it depends on the amount of work and originality.  ie. original or exact copy from another artists.  certain makeup can be copyrighted and therefore owned by the MUA.

Oct 19 12 09:13 pm Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

If it's what the photographer wanted then there's little you can do - in some cases with very pronounced, distinctive styles like this, you're effectively reduced to the role of a mannequin...

If you really want images that reflect your tastes (here we go again) you have to pay a suitable photographer to do what you want, rather than what they want...

'Trade shoots' are never really equal - whoever originates the concept will have the final say and as that's usually the photographer, you generally get to put up with what he gives you... In the last three years, I've only had one concept brought to me by a model and that was from one I'd worked-with previously and with something we'd discussed over the course of a couple of prior shoots, so even then it was still more of a collaboration than a straighforward commission.

Oct 20 12 04:14 am Link

Model

Babalon Salome

Posts: 3499

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Kelleth wrote:
Some faces can take more makeup than others. It's a makeup artist's job to make sure the makeup she does is suitable to her subject's face.

This.

Oct 20 12 05:42 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11896

Olivet, Michigan, US

RKD Photographic wrote:
If it's what the photographer wanted then there's little you can do - in some cases with very pronounced, distinctive styles like this, you're effectively reduced to the role of a mannequin...

This.

Speaking generally, not to critique the specific images; sometimes the image is about you, sometimes it's about the hair and makeup, sometimes it's about the lighting, sometimes it is about the clothing.  If you can pull all of them off well, that makes you all the more useful / valuable as a model.

Oct 20 12 08:15 am Link

Photographer

howard r

Posts: 517

Los Angeles, California, US

in my experience, a lot of mua's overdo it. it's like they are trying to show off their technique (or their latest colors, etc) in situations where less would be more.

i always tell them that i want to notice how beautiful my model looks, not how beautiful the makeup is. obviously that puts some of them in more of a supporting role than they want, but i think the better ones get what i'm looking for.

Oct 20 12 12:42 pm Link

Model

NicoleNudes

Posts: 3960

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I actually really like the first image so I don't know *shrug*

As for the second image the eyeshadow and lip stick don't really compliment each other and that's not your fault. I don't really see how you could have "owned" that.

Oct 20 12 12:48 pm Link

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Model

Koryn

Posts: 37033

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Most of the comments you will get from other people are uninformed, driven by negative emotions like competitiveness and jealousy, and therefore without merit.

Oct 20 12 04:36 pm Link

Photographer

NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 34397

Los Angeles, California, US

It's a confidence thing. The makeup calls attention to itself but you look a bit timid.

Own the makeup and you'll own the makeup.

Oct 20 12 04:53 pm Link