Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > How do you edit out...camel toe?

Photographer

Erica Velasco Photog

Posts: 162

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

Nov 30 12 06:26 pm Link

Photographer

Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3195

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Content-aware fill should do it, but a tip for the future: never shoot straight into anybody's crotch. All you really need to remove is the shadow of the crease.

Nov 30 12 07:06 pm Link

Photographer

Leighthenubian

Posts: 2964

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Well aside from the prior poster's reply....why do you need to edit that out?

It's not a fashion shoot.

Nov 30 12 07:42 pm Link

Photographer

Designit - Edward Olson

Posts: 1637

Eureka, California, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:
http://www.ericavelasco.com/puppy-love- … t-session/

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

Don't eliminate the crease entirely. There is a seam in the cloth of the pants that should remain.

[edited out link]

The angle of the camera is not what causes the shadow. It is the angle of the sun to the crease. In this case, I suspect when the bride-to-be sat down on his leg, it pushed upward on his trousers, causing it to bunch.

Illuminate wrote:
Well aside from the prior poster's reply....why do you need to edit that out?

It's not a fashion shoot.

Because the client ASKED HER TO.

Nov 30 12 07:44 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 15702

Orlando, Florida, US

That was not what I was expecting to see.


The first respondent seems to have the correct answer.

Nov 30 12 08:18 pm Link

Photographer

Leighthenubian

Posts: 2964

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Designit - Edward Olson wrote:

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:
http://www.ericavelasco.com/puppy-love- … t-session/

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

Don't eliminate the crease entirely. There is a seam in the cloth of the pants that should remain. I achieved this:

http://www.designit-digital.com/image1.jpg

I am going to delete this as soon as I know you have seen it.

The angle of the camera is not what causes the shadow. It is the angle of the sun to the crease. In this case, I suspect when the bride-to-be sat down on his leg, it pushed upward on his trousers, causing it to bunch.


Because the client ASKED HER TO.

Thanks I read that BUT doing that on a significant number of images is not cost effective unless she is paying!

Nov 30 12 08:32 pm Link

Photographer

rp_photo

Posts: 42494

Houston, Texas, US

Illuminate wrote:
Well aside from the prior poster's reply....why do you need to edit that out?

+1. I thought it was supposed to be a good thing smile

Nov 30 12 08:35 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11892

Olivet, Michigan, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

You're posting a public link to someone's proofs, and making comments about their crotch?

Nov 30 12 08:50 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 27371

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Art of the nude wrote:
You're posting a public link to someone's proofs, and making comments about their crotch?

Is that any worse than all the "how do I fix this persons awful skin/nose hairs/bloodshot eyes/bald spot/etc?" threads?

Nov 30 12 08:51 pm Link

Photographer

William Kious

Posts: 8841

Delphos, Ohio, US

That's moose knuckle... not camel toe.

Nov 30 12 08:55 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Broughton

Posts: 2244

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

i don't see any camel toe... ohhhh, you mean moose knuckle.

edit: DAMN YOU WILLIAM KIOUS!!!!

Nov 30 12 08:55 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 36698

Columbus, Ohio, US

Moose knuckle? MOOSE KNUCKLE??????
I'm just so outta the loop when it comes to current names of "things".

Nov 30 12 09:19 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 36698

Columbus, Ohio, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
.......making him look like....he has a big package.

Ya know.....you MIGHT get a bonus for doing that. wink

Just use the patch tool and move it around a little?

Nov 30 12 09:23 pm Link

Model

- Aina -

Posts: 747

Redlands, California, US

I was looking for the girl, when you mentioned camel toe.

Nov 30 12 09:25 pm Link

Retoucher

Vega Retouching

Posts: 260

MILILANI, Hawaii, US

i think they're called moose knuckles big_smile

Nov 30 12 10:16 pm Link

Photographer

the lonely photographer

Posts: 1887

Beverly Hills, California, US

I got a camel toe on  model   under her arms! seems the skin folded up into that dreaded look when she lowered her arms. luckily i managed to edit it out   cropped her from the shoulder up!

Nov 30 12 11:03 pm Link

Photographer

imcFOTO

Posts: 579

Bothell, Washington, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:
http://www.ericavelasco.com/puppy-love- … t-session/

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

Since the client is sensitive about this, you would have been wise to crop their heads out of the shot. Imagine if one his friends sees this thread - not good for your reputation ... just sayin ..

Nov 30 12 11:16 pm Link

Photographer

Farenell Photography

Posts: 18125

Albany, New York, US

Illuminate wrote:
Well aside from the prior poster's reply....why do you need to edit that out?

My thoughts exactly.

They're open high heels, you'd expect to see those "little piggies".

Nov 30 12 11:48 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 27188

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Art of the nude wrote:

You're posting a public link to someone's proofs, and making comments about their crotch?

Yes I wonder how that will be for business

Dec 01 12 12:10 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7688

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

http://mnemosyne.smugmug.com/photos/i-7wq5spC/0/X3/i-7wq5spC-X3.gif

Dec 01 12 12:36 am Link

Retoucher

Oliver Retouch

Posts: 11

Chicago, Illinois, US

Art of the nude wrote:

You're posting a public link to someone's proofs, and making comments about their crotch?

+1

Dec 01 12 12:58 am Link

Photographer

Harold Rose

Posts: 2925

Calhoun, Georgia, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:
http://www.ericavelasco.com/puppy-love- … t-session/

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Erica

If there is not a hidded agenda for this question,   and you "really do not have the ability to take care of this simple correction"     Hire someone that knows how to do simple retouching...I am sure that your client ok'ed the publ;ishing of these photos...  especially if it ends up as a facebook feature...

Dec 01 12 01:08 am Link

Photographer

Michael Broughton

Posts: 2244

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

the lonely photographer wrote:
I got a camel toe on  model   under her arms! seems the skin folded up into that dreaded look when she lowered her arms. luckily i managed to edit it out   cropped her from the shoulder up!

if underarm folds count as camel toes, should shots like this be considered 18+?http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121017/20/507f7a29652cf.jpg

Dec 01 12 01:14 am Link

Photographer

Neil Snape

Posts: 9473

Paris, Île-de-France, France

While I saw it was shot at a zoo I was looking for a real camel, but didn't find any.
If you are describing the folds around his * nuts, well you can just clone stamp in lighten mode until you smooth that out. Leave a hint though of depth so do it at a reasonable opacity and or flow.

Dec 01 12 01:28 am Link

Photographer

Image Magik

Posts: 1068

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Ok so I have a client who wants the cameltoe taken out of their engagement photos. To be honest I didn't even notice it when editing.

Perfect example is the second photo on the left.

Link to shoot:
http://www.ericavelasco.com/puppy-love- … t-session/

Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?


I would put a real camels toe there!! lol
Use content aware fill on the dark crease in the middle or try using the clone tool on the crease in lighten mode at 20-50 percent.
Erica

Dec 01 12 01:42 am Link

Photographer

Image Magik

Posts: 1068

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Michael Broughton wrote:
if underarm folds count as camel toes, should shots like this be considered 18+?http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121017/20/507f7a29652cf.jpg

You could always use the patch tool to get rid of or reduce the crease in her armpit. Should be 18+ cause of the spider!!! lol

Dec 01 12 01:44 am Link

Photographer

Image Magik

Posts: 1068

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
http://mnemosyne.smugmug.com/photos/i-7wq5spC/0/X3/i-7wq5spC-X3.gif

Haha!!! lol

Dec 01 12 01:46 am Link

Digital Artist

Andreea Cernestean

Posts: 495

Baia Mare, Maramureş, Romania

Some of you are being pretty negative, rude if I may add. She's simply seeking advice on fixing an issue with these images at her client's request. If she hadn't posted any pictures this thread would have been spammed with "got any samples to show your problem?" for comments.

To OP, you can clone from the nearby fabric at a low opacity and go over the folds. To erase them completely would look unnatural, but you can make it less bold. And be aware of fabrics that crease like that for future shootings. This could have been dealt with during the shooting by having the guy even his trousers when he sat down wink

Dec 01 12 03:13 am Link

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Kent Art Photography

Posts: 2908

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

Sometimes I worry about people who think MM is the centre of the Universe and everyone knows about it and looks through every forum every day.  I doubt the OP's clients even know MM exists, and they probably wouldn't give a damn about the posting of the pics here if they did know.  Some people just have to negative.

I would clone nearby areas to lighten the crease, although it might look odd and draw attention to the area.  I'd do the "worst" shots and offer them to the clients for approval.  The clients might have unrealistic expectations about what can be done with Photoshop.

Dec 01 12 03:42 am Link

Photographer

NYC fine art nudes

Posts: 178

New York, New York, US

Have you tried to Liquify that sloppy sack ?

>Filter

>Liquify

>Forward Warp Tool

(and maybe a little bit of)

>Pucker

Dec 01 12 04:12 am Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Erica Velasco Photog wrote:
Any suggestions! I've tried a few times and it just ends up making him look like....he has a big package. Which I guess isn't horrible but it looks edited.

Any help?

Probably the clone stamp. Can't tell for sure without seeing a 100% crop of the problem.

Dec 01 12 05:53 am Link

Photographer

Leighthenubian

Posts: 2964

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Kent Art Photography wrote:
Sometimes I worry about people who think MM is the centre of the Universe and everyone knows about it and looks through every forum every day.  I doubt the OP's clients even know MM exists, and they probably wouldn't give a damn about the posting of the pics here if they did know.  Some people just have to negative.

I would clone nearby areas to lighten the crease, although it might look odd and draw attention to the area.  I'd do the "worst" shots and offer them to the clients for approval.  The clients might have unrealistic expectations about what can be done with Photoshop.

You can't really believe that...

Employers can find you, ex's can find you and client's can find you. Especially when you use your name/business as your MM account name.

Personally, I would have cropped to just the "discussed" area and posted that in-line with the original post.

Dec 01 12 06:25 am Link

Photographer

descending chain

Posts: 1219

Fullerton, California, US

Peano wrote:
Probably the clone stamp. Can't tell for sure without seeing a 100% crop of the problem.

Illuminate wrote:
Personally, I would have cropped to just the "discussed" area and posted that in-line with the original post.

The OP should take the opportunity to edit the OP.

Dec 01 12 06:44 am Link

Photographer

Faze1 photography

Posts: 568

Lawndale, California, US

Peano wrote:

Probably the clone stamp. Can't tell for sure without seeing a 100% crop of the problem.

+1

I'm not saying it's the best way of doing getting rid of the problem but I've ran into situations such as this and I just burned down the highlights and the client never noticed. If anybody can give you an answer, Peano can so I'm sure he can tell you if this will work.

Dec 01 12 10:08 am Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Peano wrote:

Probably the clone stamp. Can't tell for sure without seeing a 100% crop of the problem.

Please enlarge that package for Peano.

Dec 01 12 10:16 am Link

Photographer

Matt Forma

Posts: 373

Denver, Colorado, US

Moose knuckle haha! Never heard that either

Dec 01 12 01:08 pm Link

Retoucher

Sofia Zasheva

Posts: 154

Sofia, Sofija grad, Bulgaria

Clone stamp, clone stamp + painting + reduced opacity, paint over it + noise + reduced opacity, new layer + healing brush + reduced opacity, choose one but as some people said - don't remove it completely because it will look weird.

Dec 03 12 12:49 pm Link

Retoucher

pxspace

Posts: 1046

Braşov, Braşov, Romania

Matt Forma wrote:
Moose knuckle haha! Never heard that either

lol

Dec 03 12 01:25 pm Link

Photographer

Erica Velasco Photog

Posts: 162

Phoenix, Arizona, US

One. It's photos on my blog and they have been up there for a while. So I'm not posting proofs no one hasn't already seen.

Two. I thought you couldn't see posts unless you had an account here. So I didn't think it was a danger since why would my clients have an account here.

Three. I would hire someone to edit it, I don't have a problem doing that. But some of the people's help here did assist.

Four. It wasn't something I was looking for during shooting, as I've never had an issue like this ever come up.

Five. I don't feel it's necessary to be rude when someone is posting an honest question. It's unprofessional. I didn't realize this post had gone on and on as I had gotten help and then haven't checked back. I felt I was being professional as this is a private forum and didn't fear my clients would ever see this post. Some of you take yourselves much too seriously.

Six. Thank you to those who were actually trying to be helpful.

Jan 02 13 07:52 pm Link

Photographer

Nico Simon Princely

Posts: 1876

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

The first poster I think had the solution. I think it's wrong to take away his manhood myself!

WTF? Why does he want his package removed... Just to prove she now has junk in her pocket?

Jan 02 13 08:05 pm Link