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Model

jenna marquez

Posts: 3

Wayne, New Jersey, US

I know there are a ton of posts on scams and how to spot them, I've read most of them and even watched the video on how to avoid the basic ones that MM provides you with but I just received this message and I'm a little unsure of how to respond due to a few grammatical errors and the fact that I'm possibly being offered 1,200 dollars. Any information would be great .. Here is a copy of the MM message I just got.

"Hi,

     My name is Craig Harper. You've got a sparkling figure and you could fit in for the upcoming Manhattan Fashion Magazine photo shoot that will hold somewhere in your area soon. You stand a chance of making $1,200 plus a noticeable fame. For more info as regards this opportunity, write an email to (model.nextrated@gmail.com) and don't forget to include your MM # in the email so that your profile could be properly reviewed.

Regards,

Craig."

Dec 08 12 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 21929

Santa Cruz, California, US

Hi there,

Yes, that is most likely a scam.
If you ever think you're being scammed or spammed on MM, please send us a CAM, and please include a link to the member's profile #
http://www.ripoffreport.com.php

If you go to your My Stuff page, you will see a image that reads "Avoid Scams"... it looks like this:
http://mms.ibsrv.net/images/info/AvoidScams.jpg

Click on that image for some helpful hints, and then also click on the link that takes you to this detailed Scam Guide.
NEW MODELS: Learn about Scams - by Chaya Phally
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=575330

Also, please read this new EDU article and view the video.
Avoiding scams: The Basics
http://www.modelmayhem.com/education/mo … the-basics

I recommend that members consider removing personal email addresses, phone #s, and IMs from their bio page. It will reduce the number of scams and spams you receive. Instead, initiate contact and communications on MM via the MM private messaging system, tags, etc. Once you know someone is legit, use whatever medium you prefer to continue the communications.

Finally, here are some other useful and informative threads, found here on MM, created and maintained by MM members.

The New Model's Guide to the Industry and Scams - by Fifi

Model Matters Survivor Guide... - by Fifi

New to MM? --READ THIS FIRST! - by Josie Nutter
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=18926


CLT's Survival Guide For MM Newbies - by CLT
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=117121

Dec 08 12 02:21 pm Link

Photographer

Syosset Studio

Posts: 296

Syosset, New York, US

jenna marquez wrote:
Is this a MM scam?

"Hi,

     My name is Craig Harper. You've got a sparkling figure and you could fit in for the upcoming Manhattan Fashion Magazine photo shoot that will hold somewhere in your area soon. You stand a chance of making $1,200 plus a noticeable fame. For more info as regards this opportunity, write an email to (model.nextrated@gmail.com) and don't forget to include your MM # in the email so that your profile could be properly reviewed.

Regards,

Craig."

Why would you think it's from MM?

Dec 08 12 02:24 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 21929

Santa Cruz, California, US

Undercover Nudes wrote:
Why would you think it's from MM?

Pretty sure she means that she got the offer from an MM member via MM's private messaging system.

Dec 08 12 02:26 pm Link

Model

jenna marquez

Posts: 3

Wayne, New Jersey, US

Skydancer Photos wrote:

Pretty sure she means that she got the offer via MM's private messaging system.

Yes this is what I meant, sorry for that confusion

Dec 08 12 02:27 pm Link

Photographer

I M N Photography

Posts: 2342

New York, New York, US

jenna marquez wrote:
I know there are a ton of posts on scams and how to spot them, I've read most of them and even watched the video on how to avoid the basic ones that MM provides you with but I just received this message and I'm a little unsure of how to respond due to a few grammatical errors and the fact that I'm possibly being offered 1,200 dollars. Any information would be great .. Here is a copy of the MM message I just got.

"Hi,

     My name is Craig Harper. You've got a sparkling figure and you could fit in for the upcoming Manhattan Fashion Magazine photo shoot that will hold somewhere in your area soon. You stand a chance of making $1,200 plus a noticeable fame. For more info as regards this opportunity, write an email to (model.nextrated@gmail.com) and don't forget to include your MM # in the email so that your profile could be properly reviewed.

Regards,

Craig."

Sparkling figure? Never heard of someone described in that manner.

Anyway, not only is the grammar very poor, but NYC print (or even online only) publications (which seems to be what "Manhattan Fashion Magazine" is) do not need to go on MM to look for fashion models. 

Offering $1,200 in compensation to non-fashion individuals, with candid snapshots on their online portfolios (no offense intended), instead of modeling contracts is a red flag.

When in doubt, contact the publication directly, before engaging anyone providing an email that is not associated with the company that s/he claims to represent. Even if it is an online-only publication,  confirm the legitimacy of the event, and confirm the contact information that was provided.

Isn't is interesting that a company that is offering $1,200 in prizes cannot afford to provide their own employees with an email address?

Remote casting calls, which want to lure you into email conversations by offering wages offered to signed models, are likely setting you up for a scam.
Don't learn this lesson the hard way.

Dec 08 12 02:40 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8659

Olney, Maryland, US

It's a scam but not a "MM scam."

Never cash a check for too much money and forward the overage to a third party.

Dec 08 12 02:51 pm Link

Photographer

Ben Hinman

Posts: 596

Westwood, California, US

Most of the times these scams are written ambiguously so they don't have to rewrite their profile for everyone they send it to. "somewhere in your area" rather than the actual area means they're probably shotgunning it. if they tell you to email your MM#, its obvious they haven't taken a personal interest with you, its probably because they send it out a couple thousand times and they'll know which models are gullible enough to scam.

Anyone who offers you fame is a scammer, or trying to manipulate you. Some may offer you "exposure" or "tearsheets" but if they are trying to offer you fame then they are appealing to your greed. As they say, you can't cheat an honest man!

Dec 08 12 02:51 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8659

Olney, Maryland, US

Ben Hinman wrote:
Anyone who offers you fame is a scammer,

Anyone who offers you [a noticeable] fame is a scammer,

Dec 08 12 02:53 pm Link

Photographer

Kent Art Photography

Posts: 3036

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

Maybe if MM shot a few gatekeepers every time one of these scammers got an MM profile then perhaps there'd be fewer scammers on MM.

Dec 08 12 02:54 pm Link

Photographer

I M N Photography

Posts: 2342

New York, New York, US

Ben Hinman wrote:
Most of the times these scams are written ambiguously so they don't have to rewrite their profile for everyone they send it to. "somewhere in your area" rather than the actual area means they're probably shotgunning it. if they tell you to email your MM#, its obvious they haven't taken a personal interest with you, its probably because they send it out a couple thousand times and they'll know which models are gullible enough to scam.

Anyone who offers you fame is a scammer, or trying to manipulate you. Some may offer you "exposure" or "tearsheets" but if they are trying to offer you fame then they are appealing to your greed. As they say, you can't cheat an honest man!

(Or woman)
+1

Be honest with yourself.

Dec 08 12 02:59 pm Link

Photographer

Ben Hinman

Posts: 596

Westwood, California, US

Mark Salo wrote:
Anyone who offers you [a noticeable] fame is a scammer,

Just avoid anyone using that wording! As i said, they will always use the words "exposure" or "tearsheets". Anyone genuinely offering a chance at fame has no reason to emphasize it, if you turn them down its your loss. So anyone putting a great deal of emphasis has an ulterior motive.

Dec 08 12 02:59 pm Link

Model

jenna marquez

Posts: 3

Wayne, New Jersey, US

Thanks so much for all of your replies! It helped alot smile

Dec 08 12 03:35 pm Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3377

Dallas, Texas, US

:-)

Dec 09 12 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 15955

Orlando, Florida, US

Notable fame??!!

Where do I sign?

Dec 09 12 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

Fresh Faces Photography

Posts: 269

Santa Rosa, California, US

I've NEVER seen a post where someone wondered whether it was a scam that wasn't a scam. 100%.

If you even THINK it sounds fishy, it is.

Dec 10 12 04:15 pm Link

Photographer

Sensual Magic

Posts: 1679

Upland, California, US

Ben Hinman wrote:
Most of the times these scams are written ambiguously so they don't have to rewrite their profile for everyone they send it to. "somewhere in your area" rather than the actual area means they're probably shotgunning it. if they tell you to email your MM#, its obvious they haven't taken a personal interest with you, its probably because they send it out a couple thousand times and they'll know which models are gullible enough to scam.

Anyone who offers you fame is a scammer, or trying to manipulate you. Some may offer you "exposure" or "tearsheets" but if they are trying to offer you fame then they are appealing to your greed. As they say, you can't cheat an honest man!

I was gonna say, 'somewhere in your area' is a dead giveaway. This phrase keeps popping up in these scams.

Dec 12 12 08:32 am Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37104

Columbus, Ohio, US

Kent Art Photography wrote:
Maybe if MM shot a few gatekeepers every time one of these scammers got an MM profile then perhaps there'd be fewer scammers on MM.

Yet another logical and astitute post from you. Keep up the good work.

Dec 12 12 08:43 am Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Kent Art Photography wrote:
Maybe if MM shot a few gatekeepers every time one of these scammers got an MM profile then perhaps there'd be fewer scammers on MM.

Yes, because their profile texts always include the phrase "a noticeable fame" or something similar as they like to be easy to spot.

/sarcasm





Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Dec 12 12 09:07 am Link

Model

Christopher Jeremiah

Posts: 6

Salem, Oregon, US

I would like to know if most are legit, and at the same, does any paper work be exchanged?  The 1st had me sign a standard form, the 2nd Zilch, and the 3 rd I haven't even gotten to yet.

Is there a forum that can state models/photogs/etc that flake out?  The 2nd one said I usually have to have have about 100+ items before paid work.

Is S Taillefer Photographe reputable, I apologize in advance in a offend, but rather than than than sorry

Respectful to all

Dec 12 12 09:10 am Link

Admin

CleeIB

Posts: 3948

Los Angeles, California, US

Christopher, public "outing" of members is not allowed here. If you want to check references for a member, do so in private. A simple way to do so is PM members credited in their images.

Dec 13 12 04:29 pm Link

Model

Casandra R Guzman

Posts: 2

Hartford, Connecticut, US

It is definitely a scam! He just sent a check to my home and had all these instructions. I called the police and FedEx to pick up the package! I wish I saw this post before I even responded back at all to his request.

Jul 30 13 12:01 pm Link

Model

Casandra R Guzman

Posts: 2

Hartford, Connecticut, US

Hello,

Are you are interested in a Paid Fashion Shoot?. No nudity, fetish, bondage and other adult content stuff. You are allowed to come with an escort. I will be pleased to give you this opportunity to participate in our next month's fashion shoot. For more information please get in touch with:

Craig David

Email:  hr.admin@remmex.com

Yours,

Craig David.
Remmex Concept Inc.© 1995-2013

Jul 30 13 12:03 pm Link

Model

GingerMuse

Posts: 369

STUDIO CITY, California, US

jenna marquez wrote:
I know there are a ton of posts on scams and how to spot them, I've read most of them and even watched the video on how to avoid the basic ones that MM provides you with but I just received this message and I'm a little unsure of how to respond due to a few grammatical errors and the fact that I'm possibly being offered 1,200 dollars. Any information would be great .. Here is a copy of the MM message I just got.

"Hi,

     My name is Craig Harper. You've got a sparkling figure and you could fit in for the upcoming Manhattan Fashion Magazine photo shoot that will hold somewhere in your area soon. You stand a chance of making $1,200 plus a noticeable fame. For more info as regards this opportunity, write an email to (model.nextrated@gmail.com) and don't forget to include your MM # in the email so that your profile could be properly reviewed.

Regards,

Craig."

yes! SCAM!
here are a couple red flags that will automatically tell you it's a SCAM...
"that will hold somewhere in your area soon"
"You stand a chance of making $1,200 plus a noticeable fame"
"For more info as regards this opportunity, write an email to (model.nextrated@gmail.com)"
pretty much the whole thing reads scam!

glad you checked here first~!

Jul 30 13 12:08 pm Link

Photographer

Fotopia

Posts: 1126

Atlanta, Georgia, US

They are offering a shoot for "Manhattan Fashion Magazine" to a model in New Jersey since Manhattan no longer has any fashion models.

Jul 30 13 12:20 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8659

Olney, Maryland, US

Please note that these are Nigerian scams, not MM scams.

Jul 30 13 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 8590

Los Angeles, California, US

But . . . but . . . . but . . . . . you'll get "Noticeable Fame" !

How can you resist this opportunity ? ?

Jul 30 13 12:32 pm Link

Photographer

Flex Photography

Posts: 5463

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

"a noticeable fame" means Nigerian Scam absolutely!
Advance payment offer = Nigerian Scam!

Some reading: Nigerian Scam

Report the person who sent it via Contact a Mod

Jul 30 13 08:42 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 8849

Los Angeles, California, US

Casandra R Guzman wrote:
It is definitely a scam! He just sent a check to my home and had all these instructions. I called the police and FedEx to pick up the package! I wish I saw this post before I even responded back at all to his request.

but wait there is more here...HOW did the scammer know where to send YOUR check to?  Oh my Lanta!

Please tell us all...we want to know what the process of how the scammer got your home address, and a fake check was delivered...to you. please details. lol

Jul 30 13 08:50 pm Link

Photographer

Cosplay Creatives

Posts: 10714

Syowa - permanent station of Japan, Sector claimed by Norway, Antarctica

Mark Salo wrote:
Anyone who offers you [a noticeable] fame is a scammer,

But, I swear, I'll make you famous!  Just transfer me $200 via eastern onion please.

Jul 30 13 09:27 pm Link

Photographer

Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5210

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Mark Salo wrote:
It's a scam but not a "MM scam."

Never cash a check for too much money and forward the overage to a third party.

MM do scams now?

Cool! smile

Jul 30 13 11:16 pm Link

Photographer

Hikari Tech Photography

Posts: 791

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

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Jul 30 13 11:23 pm Link

Photographer

Hikari Tech Photography

Posts: 791

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

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Jul 30 13 11:28 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 21929

Santa Cruz, California, US

Data insert error.

Jul 30 13 11:59 pm Link

Model

GingerMuse

Posts: 369

STUDIO CITY, California, US

Data insert error.

Jul 31 13 12:07 am Link

Model

GingerMuse

Posts: 369

STUDIO CITY, California, US

Data insert error.

Jul 31 13 12:07 am Link

Photographer

Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5210

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Casandra R Guzman wrote:
It is definitely a scam! He just sent a check to my home and had all these instructions. I called the police and FedEx to pick up the package! I wish I saw this post before I even responded back at all to his request.

Here's your culprit - the dirty zombie resurrecting fiend. Burn her! TH

Jul 31 13 02:35 am Link

Model

Nikki Magnusson

Posts: 6843

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

a version of this scam has been going around for a few years now..

this line always cracks me up.."plus a noticeable fame."http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/44/f21faa4715f3480285c74d593899a371/l.gif

Jul 31 13 02:47 am Link

Photographer

Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5083

Catskill, New York, US

Yes, if someone offers you money or fame it's a scam. It's that simple.

Let me explain. There are 10 zillion models out there and 800,000 or so here on MM, (taking a guess of course).

Anyone who swears they can get a model into any magazine is already charging their client $2000 a day and isn't scouting his / her own models.

Very very very rarely will a big time photographer even speak to the model prior to the shoot let alone beg them to work together. The magazine has a team of people who do that already. The photographer just shows up on the set and does what they ask of him /her

Anytime a photographer asks you to work with them and tell you they can get you published, it's a scam unless of course he owns the magazine / publishing company, which is highly unlikely.

Magazine photogs don't beg anyone to shoot, they already have a line 20 miles long of girls wanting to be photographed.

Jul 31 13 03:54 am Link

Model

LizAnneKurtz

Posts: 1

Colorado Springs, Colorado, US

Is this a scam... I'm pretty sure it is lol

Hello Liz,
Good morning, how was your weekend?
thanks for your fast response, You've been chosen out of the screening
exercise performed by modelmayhem for us saying you've got the
physical features we needed for our cataloged update. Presently the
company (Fred Perry) needs some few new faces/models to advertise
their
new outfit (NOTE: no nudity, fetish, bondage or other adult content
stuff....It's strictly a fashion shoot!!!) and i am the favored
supervisor for the project coming up in Colorado.
               DATE:
The shoot date is 31st August and 1st of September (NOTE THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR).
               PAYMENT:
Beside,WE DO PAY $280 TO MODELS FOR PER HOUR SHOOT and you are gonna
do that for 2 days (Total $2,240 for 8hours).
              TRANSPORT AND INFO:
Transportation allowance will be included as we continue to work
together,you could be invited over to the company and sign a year
contract with us if you pose pretty well. In order for this effect i
would implore you to provide me with your statistics (SIZE) as soon as
possible? so that all what you will be wearing,would be taken care of
asap.
You will first receive $300 to start with,which will be mail to you
immediately,this is for your transportation allowance only (NOTE: The
$300 is for your transport ONLY and your full payment of $2,240 for
the job will be paid to you in cash immediately after the shoot in the
location).
The photo shoots will be taken and forward to the company and it will
be display on our online web www.fredperry.us and magazine
(worldwide).
The company have their personal photographers, hairstylists and
makeup artists,so we have made all necessary arrangement for your good
looking on the day of the shoot and also our photographers are
available to give you best directive.
They will be contacting you for proper arrangement about time and
location after transport payment has been made.
              Bonus:
The cloths and other stuffs you will be wearing for the shoot.
              ESCORT:
As a matter of choice,you can bring along any one of your choice to
the shoot location. All traveling Expenses, Food and
Accommodations/Hotel would be covered by the company and we will cover
all the expenses on your escort as well.
              EXPECTATIONS:
You must have positive ID.
You must have a nice pedicure and manicure.
You must have nice smile and humble personality.
You must be willing to pose very well and good.
No hairy armpits.
              LOCATION:
We are all going to meet at ({Brown Palace Hotel} 321 Seventeenth
Street, Denver, CO 80202) on the day of the shoot.
The shoot locations are within the hotel premises and a nice studio
close to the hotel. I will be in the hotel two days before the
shooting day.
I will keep you posted with time and more info in the next email.
              PLEASE READ THE PAYMENT PLAN CAREFULLY:
I will also like to trust you take care of the make-up artist fee
because i am in a very tight schedule this day,so Fred Perry will send
the make up artist payment together with your transport
payment of $300,so you will deduct $300 from the fund they will send
to you and send the balance left to the make-up artist that will be
coming down
for the shoot as well (for example: you will receive a pay check of
$2,000,so you will cash it and deduct your transport fee of $300 then
send the fund left to the make up artist).
We decide to pair your payments together because the makeup artist is
currently not in the location where her bank operates and also we want
to build trust between ourselves and also to create awareness.
I will keep you posted with more details about the amount,makeup
artist info and when you will be receiving the pay check.
Let me know if you read,understand and agreed with the plan.
              DOCUMENTS:
Reference and other forms/documented papers will be email to you few
days before the shoot,you will print them out,sign and bring them
along with you to the location.
Guess the arrangement is understood? In order for payment to be mail
to you on time,i would need you to provide me with the following
details.....

Stage name:
Legal Name in full:
Physical address:
City:
State:
Zip-code:
Phone number(cell and home):
Age:
$2,160(8 hours):YES/NO
Transport allowance $300:
OCCUPATION:
AGE:
ATTACH 2 RECENT PICTURES:

Measurements:

Best Regards,
Ronnie Grant.
516-855-7239(Text only,we want all conversations regarding this
photoshoot in written, because I am saving and forwarding it all to
Fred Perry Inc management as we continue to discuss business.

Aug 05 13 01:35 pm Link