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Garry k

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( inspired by another thread )

or should I rephrase that as "The Coca Cola Santa vs the Baby Jesus "?

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

Dec 09 12 11:28 am Link

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Gianantonio

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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Garry k wrote:
( inspired by another thread )

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

What's a baby jesus?

Dec 09 12 12:04 pm Link

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Paul AI

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Shawnee, Oklahoma, US

Both?

Dec 09 12 12:05 pm Link

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Dan K Photography

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STATEN ISLAND, New York, US

Santa

Dec 09 12 12:06 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

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Los Angeles, California, US

Well Since Jesus was not born on Dec 25th.....Or Even Santa...

Dec 09 12 12:06 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

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Los Angeles, California, US

Isn't this how South Park got started?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-npltBVgAM

Dec 09 12 12:13 pm Link

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kickfight

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Portland, Oregon, US

Garry k wrote:
( inspired by another thread )

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/evil-santa.jpg

Dec 09 12 12:16 pm Link

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Good Egg Productions

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Orlando, Florida, US

Neither.

Django Unchained.

Dec 09 12 12:47 pm Link

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scrymettet

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Quebec, Quebec, Canada

Good Egg Productions wrote:
Neither.

Django Unchained.

+1

Dec 09 12 02:11 pm Link

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Garry k

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

If I didn't have family obligations

i would probably go for Chinese Food with my Persian lady friend and then catch the opening of Les Mis

Dec 09 12 02:39 pm Link

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Paolo Diavolo

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Martinez, California, US

Coca Cola FTW.
Jesus is the Easter Bunny.

Dec 09 12 02:50 pm Link

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Garry k

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
Well Since Jesus was not born on Dec 25th.....Or Even Santa...

when was Santa born ?

Dec 10 12 03:30 pm Link

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Shon D.- Homme

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Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Garry k wrote:
( inspired by another thread )

or should I rephrase that as "The Coca Cola Santa vs the Baby Jesus "?

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

I'm not sure which fictional character to choose from. I guess Santa?

Dec 10 12 03:32 pm Link

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Garry k

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

kickfight wrote:

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/images/evil-santa.jpg

sort of reminds me of this gem of a Christmas movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQlikX4vvw

Dec 10 12 03:34 pm Link

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William Kious

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Delphos, Ohio, US

Does it matter? The holiday has different meanings for everyone (and that meaning tends to evolve over time.) Attempting to categorize only serves to further alienate.

Dec 10 12 03:35 pm Link

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Jennifer Barker

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Why not both, he could have been disguised as one of the wise men  wink and brought the baby a gift  smile

Dec 10 12 03:36 pm Link

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Art Silva

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Santa Barbara, California, US

Neither... I don't celebrate and worship storybook characters. tongue

Dec 10 12 04:05 pm Link

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SPRINGHEEL

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Santa kicks ass

Dec 10 12 04:09 pm Link

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Lisa Andresen

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Abingdon, Illinois, US

The birth of Jesus is our main focus at Christmas. My husband and I have agreed to not teach our children about Santa.

Dec 10 12 05:00 pm Link

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Laurence Moan

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Lisa Andresen wrote:
The birth of Jesus is our main focus at Christmas. My husband and I have agreed to not teach our children about Santa.

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/619d6315f5806b69aa4fd6b418d91bea7930b4bc_m.gif

Dec 10 12 05:06 pm Link

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r T p

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Los Angeles, California, US

Gianantonio wrote:
What's a baby jesus?

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Christmas-baby-jesus-figurine.jpg

Dec 10 12 05:09 pm Link

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Cait Chan

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Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Lisa Andresen wrote:
The birth of Jesus is our main focus at Christmas. My husband and I have agreed to not teach our children about Santa.

So no presents either?

Dec 10 12 05:14 pm Link

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Lisa Andresen

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Abingdon, Illinois, US

Cait Chan wrote:

So no presents either?

No we will exchange gifts but I want my children to focus more on giving than receiving. We will do things at Christmas time to give back to our community in the form of mission work. We will also read the Christmas story from the Bible to them on Christmas Eve. The gifts in our home will represent those brought to the young Jesus by the wise men.

Dec 10 12 05:31 pm Link

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Paul AI

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Shawnee, Oklahoma, US

Lisa Andresen wrote:
No we will exchange gifts but I want my children to focus more on giving than receiving. We will do things at Christmas time to give back to our community in the form of mission work. We will also read the Christmas story from the Bible to them on Christmas Eve. The gifts in our home will represent those brought to the young Jesus by the wise men.

Good for you guys smile

Dec 10 12 07:20 pm Link

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Gianantonio

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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Gianantonio wrote:
What's a baby jesus?

cy be rea n wrote:
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Christmas-baby-jesus-figurine.jpg

That does not look like a fun toy...

Dec 10 12 07:32 pm Link

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Gianantonio

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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Lisa Andresen wrote:
No we will exchange gifts but I want my children to focus more on giving than receiving. We will do things at Christmas time to give back to our community in the form of mission work. We will also read the Christmas story from the Bible to them on Christmas Eve. The gifts in our home will represent those brought to the young Jesus by the wise men.

What are you going to tell your kids when they ask who the fat dude with a white beard in the red suit is?

And I'm not sure the kids will appreciate myrrh...

Dec 10 12 07:34 pm Link

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Garry k

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Lisa Andresen wrote:

No we will exchange gifts but I want my children to focus more on giving than receiving. We will do things at Christmas time to give back to our community in the form of mission work. We will also read the Christmas story from the Bible to them on Christmas Eve. The gifts in our home will represent those brought to the young Jesus by the wise men.

do you mean like frankincense and myrrh ?

Dec 10 12 08:03 pm Link

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Photos 4 The Memories

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Kewaskum, Wisconsin, US

In my opinion is they both are just another way for people to get money out of you.

Dec 10 12 08:08 pm Link

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r T p

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Los Angeles, California, US

Gianantonio wrote:
What's a baby jesus?

cy be rea n wrote:
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/Christmas-baby-jesus-figurine.jpg

Gianantonio wrote:
That does not look like a fun toy...


b
aby jesus is no toy ...

baby jesus is serious business

Dec 10 12 08:24 pm Link

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Lisa Andresen

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Abingdon, Illinois, US

Gianantonio wrote:
What are you going to tell your kids when they ask who the fat dude with a white beard in the red suit is?

And I'm not sure the kids will appreciate myrrh...

We will tell them of the tradition of Santa of course and that they need to respect other kids and their traditions. So it's not nice to go around yelling "Santa isn't real". But my kids will not ever grow up thinking Santa is real or that he brings them presents. They will know him as tradition and culture only.

Dec 10 12 08:35 pm Link

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Lisa Andresen

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Abingdon, Illinois, US

Garry k wrote:
do you mean like frankincense and myrrh ?

Ummm no my children will have normal gifts like any other child in this century. But they will learn of the gifts the wise men brought and why. Gifts in our house will be a representation of the Christmas story.

Dec 10 12 08:37 pm Link

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Food is the star at our family christmas celebrations.

Dec 10 12 08:41 pm Link

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Virtual Studio

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Lisa Andresen wrote:

Ummm no my children will have normal gifts like any other child in this century. But they will learn of the gifts the wise men brought and why. Gifts in our house will be a representation of the Christmas story.

But the gifts the wise men gave were direct preparation for the crucifixion. How can you square that with a new bike and a My Little Pony?

Dec 10 12 09:21 pm Link

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Peach Jones

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Lisa Andresen wrote:

Ummm no my children will have normal gifts like any other child in this century. But they will learn of the gifts the wise men brought and why. Gifts in our house will be a representation of the Christmas story.

good for you. I know you catch a lotta crap on MM about your faith, but I think you are on the money with this one. Have a great Christmas Season!!

Dec 10 12 09:25 pm Link

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Paolo Diavolo

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Martinez, California, US

Lisa Andresen wrote:
We will tell them of the tradition of Santa of course and that they need to respect other kids and their traditions. So it's not nice to go around yelling "Santa isn't real". But my kids will not ever grow up thinking Santa is real or that the brings them presents. They will know him as tradition and culture only.

just curious if you have kids, or youre just talking about in the future? cause it may change your mind when you actually have kids enjoying santa claus.

i don't care about your religious beliefs but for the sake of educating kids i hope you give them reality:

Santa Claus is based on a real person:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

Christmas is based on celebrating winter solstice:
Thousands of years ago people celebrated winter solstice at the end of December, and then some Christian religious stuff happened. But people still liked partying at the end of December so they decided they would just pretend it was Jesus' birthday instead. Cycle of the sun turned into cycle of the son.

source: history.

Dec 10 12 11:46 pm Link

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Paolo Diavolo

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Martinez, California, US

...and for the rest of us theres also another option to celebrate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

Dec 10 12 11:52 pm Link

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Anna Adrielle

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I love the coca cola santa commercial from an esthetic point of view. But christmas is about the birth of jesus for me smile. Other than seeing that commercial on tv occasionally, Santa is in no way part of my christmas celebration.

Besides, we already have Sinterklaas on december 6th which is celebrated everywhere here, Santa is not part of our culture and tradition, and I'm REALLY not liking how people are adopting the Santa thing here.

http://s8.hbvl.be/ahimgpath/assets_img_hbvl/2009/11/27/809017/bel-naar-sinterklaas-id918061-620x400.jpg

Dec 11 12 04:24 am Link

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Lisa Andresen

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Virtual Studio wrote:
But the gifts the wise men gave were direct preparation for the crucifixion. How can you square that with a new bike and a My Little Pony?

Ummm not they weren't they were to help Mary and Joseph escape. The gifts brought were very expensive back then and worth a lot of money they literally were brought for Mary and Joseph to sell so they could escape Herod. Jesus was already about 2 years old when this happened.

Dec 11 12 07:12 am Link

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Jeffrey M Fletcher

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Asheville, North Carolina, US

Garry k wrote:
( inspired by another thread )

or should I rephrase that as "The Coca Cola Santa vs the Baby Jesus "?

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

Only choices between the two advertising images dreamed up to re-purpose the holiday?

I'm a traditionalist, I'll go for a celebration of the passing of the solstice and return of the light.

Dec 11 12 07:27 am Link

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-Nicole-

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Madison, Wisconsin, US

Garry k wrote:
( inspired by another thread )

or should I rephrase that as "The Coca Cola Santa vs the Baby Jesus "?

which more represents the Dec 25th holiday to You ?

Neither.

Stress represents that day.

Dec 11 12 07:29 am Link