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Photographer

Deep Exposure

Posts: 41

San Jose, California, US

I may be at the other end of the spectrum, but for timeless line art black and white film interpretation some coverage make it easy for the photographer...

Dec 12 12 09:18 am Link

Photographer

Lars R Peterson

Posts: 1073

Seattle, Washington, US

I just saw a gorgeous woman, hips from here to there... a rack that I could get lost in... a killer dragon tattoo wrapped from her shoulder around her back onto her leg... I was admiring her belly button ring when she took off her panties, and she was totally hairless!!
I was like, "Whoah! Are you 12?!?!? Shouldn't you be in school?!?"

Dec 12 12 09:36 am Link

Photographer

Scottsdale Images

Posts: 495

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

I've found that about 80% of the higher end "Playboy level" traveling models I know or have recently photographed all have some sort of landing strip or trimmed bush. While the local, wannabe, hobby models are about 90% shaved.

I think that may be having to do with the BF factor, the locals are catering to their BFs while the traveling models are catering to their clients... 

Just my 0.02

Dec 12 12 11:26 am Link

Photographer

Bravoscape

Posts: 259

Frederick, Maryland, US

I shave as so do any women who get into bed with me. Been shaving since before it was cool...women tend to appreciate it.

I prefer the woman clean. At Minimum, trimming. As long as she is clean...I am not picky - but I have been fortunate to only have clean shaven thus far.

Dec 12 12 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

MesmerEyes Photography

Posts: 3100

Tyler, Texas, US

Scottsdale Images wrote:
I've found that about 80% of the higher end "Playboy level" traveling models I know or have recently photographed all have some sort of landing strip or trimmed bush. While the local, wannabe, hobby models are about 90% shaved.

I think that may be having to do with the BF factor, the locals are catering to their BFs while the traveling models are catering to their clients... 

Just my 0.02

I have found it the opposite. Local models with bush and traveling models shaved/waxed. Of coarse there are some exceptions.

As a photographer, it depends on the project or look I am going for.

Personally, clean of hair down there. Hair tends to get in the way of play. :p

Dec 12 12 01:12 pm Link

Model

Gina Dee

Posts: 314

BRONX, New York, US

I'm on the short side and when I shoot shaved makes my torso look longer to me.

Dec 12 12 01:30 pm Link

Model

Calypso Moon

Posts: 848

Banning, California, US

Grooming preferences are so subjective, that it's impossible to determine what actually looks "best".  With that said, there are some objective realities about modeling that I think make being shaved bare the best choice -- at least if you're a glamour model.  If you plan on modeling lingerie or something like that, it's much less complicated to not have hair peeking out of the wrong places.

Dec 12 12 01:51 pm Link

Photographer

Bravo Magic Images

Posts: 765

Temple City, California, US

I prefer the Cavewoman Cavebush all the way. Yumm

Dec 12 12 02:02 pm Link

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Damianne

Posts: 15978

Austin, Texas, US

Well what my boyfriend likes is not going to be what your boyfriend likes, so that's kind of irrelevant.

There's as much compositional merit to pubic hair as there is to the hair on your head, that's a consideration if it's related to your modelling.

Other than that it's what makes you and your sexual partner(s) happy.

Really it's just what makes you happy, but what makes my sexual partner happy makes me happy.

Dec 12 12 02:10 pm Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2397

Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, US

Megan Camille wrote:
Hello girls! And boys as well.
Do you girls wax or shave? and why?
And boys, do you like the brazilian wax?

i have many questions regarding this and i want to hear different opinions. My boyfriend says that shaving everything makes me look like a baby and he doesnt like it. what about you?

My boyfriend is always in awe of the mythical European women that embrace the glory of their body hair. He is quite fond of the natural look. smile

For him... He hasn't started shaving yet.

For me... I don't care for shaving. ANYWHERE.
I normally cover my legs and arms in public and only shave when I have a shoot that calls for an alien-like hairless body.

Dec 12 12 02:15 pm Link

Photographer

Eastfist

Posts: 3552

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

Sex-wise, of course, I won't refuse a woman if she's shaven or not.  But in the back of my mind, I'd be wondering, in the long run, what kind of a woman shaves her pubic hair, a natural indicator of womanhood?

Dec 12 12 05:54 pm Link

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Damianne

Posts: 15978

Austin, Texas, US

Eastfist wrote:
Sex-wise, of course, I won't refuse a woman if she's shaven or not.  But in the back of my mind, I'd be wondering, in the long run, what kind of a woman shaves her pubic hair, a natural indicator of womanhood?

Underarm hair is a natural indication of womanhood.
Periods lasting longer than 3-5 days is a natural part of womanhood.
Sagging breasts are a natural indication of womanhood.


We avoid all of those things and don't get shitty judgemental character questions. Womanhood in actuality has nothing to do with stuff sprouting off our bodies.

Dec 12 12 08:20 pm Link

Model

Fine Wine

Posts: 226

Orange, California, US

I go shaved, but I have had requests to be au naturelle.  But it is hard to grow it back because it takes time...even to have a landing strip...so I stay shaved.

Dec 12 12 09:05 pm Link

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Rays Fine Art

Posts: 6509

New York, New York, US

Damianne wrote:
. . . . Really it's just what makes you happy, but what makes my sexual partner happy makes me happy.

Or the other way around, what makes you happy makes your partner happy.

But for our purposes here, it seems to me to be a matter of striking a balance between what makes the model and her partner happy and what makes the most paying photographers happy.

Unfortunately, looked at that way it remains a subjective choice so any advice is effectively no advice.

Dec 13 12 06:57 am Link

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Model

Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

Damianne wrote:

Underarm hair is a natural indication of womanhood.
Periods lasting longer than 3-5 days is a natural part of womanhood.
Sagging breasts are a natural indication of womanhood.


We avoid all of those things and don't get shitty judgemental character questions. Womanhood in actuality has nothing to do with stuff sprouting off our bodies.

hahahahahaaha big_smile

Dec 13 12 07:10 am Link

Artist/Painter

MainePaintah

Posts: 1809

Saco, Maine, US

I had replied to a similar post about this, but I think it deserves repeating here.

As an artist, I was shocked a few years back when all my models from a local college started showing up completely shaved!

I got used to it very quickly and as an artist I found it very normal in art going back for hundreds of years.

Look at almost all sculpture of the female form (Augusta St. Gauden's "Diana" comes to mind) and all paintings depicting the female nude body. There is NEVER (actually I should not say never, but right now I can't think of any paintings with a full bush) any hair down below, because it would create a Dark Bulls Eye where you would not want the viewer to look!

I now find a completely shave vagina normal and artisric.

Dec 13 12 07:20 am Link

Photographer

The Falcons Nest

Posts: 556

Rosedale, New York, US

Professionally I prefer shaved. I shoot a lot of nudes, lingerie and tiny bikinis. Shaved goes with everything.

Personally I prefer shaved as well. The stuff tends to get in my eyes.

Dec 13 12 07:30 am Link

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Milan Spinola

Posts: 4

Entre Rios, Bahia, Brazil

Brazilian wax. It's just.. better

Dec 13 12 09:27 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

MainePaintah wrote:
Look at almost all sculpture of the female form (Augusta St. Gauden's "Diana" comes to mind) and all paintings depicting the female nude body. There is NEVER (actually I should not say never, but right now I can't think of any paintings with a full bush) any hair down below, because it would create a Dark Bulls Eye where you would not want the viewer to look!

acttualy, the reason for that is mostly because pubic hair made the image sexual and intimitate instead of smooth, idealized art. the first classic art painting that actually showed pubic hair was in the late 18th centure (the nude Maja) and was actually considered pornographic at the time.

as for sculptures, that is mostly because imagine having to sculpt pubic hair... little bit more common in sculptures depicting males, but even there it's usually a very idealized easy-to-sculpt little bush.

Dec 13 12 09:44 am Link

Artist/Painter

aquarelle

Posts: 1915

Chicago, Illinois, US

Lars R Peterson wrote:
I just saw a gorgeous woman, hips from here to there... a rack that I could get lost in... a killer dragon tattoo wrapped from her shoulder around her back onto her leg... I was admiring her belly button ring when she took off her panties, and she was totally hairless!!
I was like, "Whoah! Are you 12?!?!? Shouldn't you be in school?!?"

You seriously need to get out more. smile

Dec 13 12 06:44 pm Link

Artist/Painter

aquarelle

Posts: 1915

Chicago, Illinois, US

Eastfist wrote:
... in the long run, what kind of a woman shaves her pubic hair, a natural indicator of womanhood?

My Kind! smile

Dec 13 12 06:48 pm Link

Photographer

Dorola

Posts: 314

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

My gf was waxing all the time and she just looked a mess with ingrown hair, skin torn off and red blotches everywhere. I tried to convince her just to let it grow wild, but she wouldn't. I stopped paying for the waxing, so she requires that I shave her. Now, her skin and pubic area look pretty good from shaving with a man's raiser and gel shaving cream. Both of us seem to enjoy her being shaved. She wanted me shaved too and tried but quit in the middle of the job after nicking me a few times. I had to finish shaving myself all the way from the belly button down. It was an interesting sensation with our bare skins touching, but shortly after, as the hair started growing back, it was like coarse sandpaper when we came into contact with each other. I had so many rashes and ingrown hair, it was crazy to consider doing it again. My hair has just fully grown back and I will not consider shaving it again.

Because of the pain and other issues, I will not consider asking a model to shave or wax. However they come to me, is how I will photograph them.

Dec 13 12 07:15 pm Link

Model

SSModel

Posts: 30

Los Angeles, California, US

My husband prefers me bare and with just barely a hint of a landing strip. I am also a stripper so my customers like me shaved so they can see everything so it works out for me.

Since I make my money with my body I invested in getting laser hair removal now I am bare and don't have to shave and get painful Brazilian Waxes and ingrown hair problems are a thing of the past.

So ladies I suggest you invest in some laser hair removal.

Dec 14 12 07:00 am Link

Photographer

photodorset

Posts: 845

Bournemouth, England, United Kingdom

I prefer a full triangle of hair as it helps to emphasize the female form and covers some of the anatomy underneath (nature's bikini)
Don't think you would ever look like a boy!! My girlfriend is shaved but I would prefer her with hair but it's what she wants so not my choice. Although it's really uncomfortable if we make love and she has stubble!!!

Dec 14 12 07:15 am Link

Photographer

Alicia Hansen Photo

Posts: 1964

Durango, Colorado, US

SSModel wrote:
My husband prefers me bare and with just barely a hint of a landing strip. I am also a stripper so my customers like me shaved so they can see everything so it works out for me.

Since I make my money with my body I invested in getting laser hair removal now I am bare and don't have to shave and get painful Brazilian Waxes and ingrown hair problems are a thing of the past.

So ladies I suggest you invest in some laser hair removal.

How much does it run for and how successful is it in keeping the hair from growing back?

Dec 14 12 07:24 am Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 6682

Elkton, Maryland, US

For personal enjoyment, I prefer clean shaven and I have more confidence to stay longer and give my best for her enjoyment.  Not sure why, I found clean shaven gives the best scent.  smile

For shoot, I prefer a trimmed vulva.

Dec 14 12 09:18 am Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 6682

Elkton, Maryland, US

Dorola wrote:
My hair has just fully grown back and I will not consider shaving it again.

Electric razor is your friend.  smile

Dec 14 12 09:23 am Link

Model

SSModel

Posts: 30

Los Angeles, California, US

I had 8 sessions each costing $200 but they get more than just the bikini and vagina area the also get the butt area LOL.

It is well worth the investment.

Alicia Hansen Photo wrote:

How much does it run for and how successful is it in keeping the hair from growing back?

Dec 14 12 09:29 pm Link

Model

NYMPH

Posts: 635

Oakland, California, US

Daaaayum there be some strong opinions in this here thread!

It's my vagina, I'll keep it the way I like it! (And, well, it also helps to pay the bills, which I like too.)

Ever since I started shaving I liked it. My boyfriend likes it. Photographers like it. For the most part. Doing more fine art, I'm getting more bush requests, but so far, nothing deal breaking. I tried to let it grow out a little while ago. Itchy, stinky, mess. I know some girls who have cute, lightly grown out, thin, beautiful pubic hair. Mine just comes out like a raging, coarse, sprawling monster that wants to annihilate all who come near. Not too sexy.

Shaving works for me, and I enjoy having the control and the processes.

Dec 14 12 09:43 pm Link

Model

Loli Scotch

Posts: 78

Austin, Texas, US

I don't really care.

I suppose, personally, I like it grown out.  I think it looks nice when it is trimmed, and it works well for the type of photography I do.  Some photographers/artists want it shaved though, so my lady pubes are ever-changing.

The boy doesn't care, either, he just likes it to be strictly one way or the other so that it never gets to that annoying "pokey" stage.  Haha.

Dec 14 12 10:48 pm Link

Photographer

Nico Simon Princely

Posts: 1913

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Personally I like either a landing strip, trimmed triangle above or shaved and nothing below or behind.

Photographically it all depends on what I'm shooting, some time natural looks better for a trimmed bush can be visually stimulating.

Most women I meet are totally shaved models or not.

Dec 15 12 02:53 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 28320

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I'm not fussy. I've photographed shaved, unshaven, and trimmed.  However I don't care for a wild bush!    smile

Dec 15 12 04:22 am Link

Photographer

Hugh Alison

Posts: 2121

Aberystwyth, Wales, United Kingdom

Some people prefer American bread - soft, smooth, white, kinda bland.

Some people prefer French bread - crusty, full of flavour and texture, occasionally you get a bit stuck between your teeth.

Dec 15 12 05:23 am Link

Photographer

Alicia Hansen Photo

Posts: 1964

Durango, Colorado, US

SSModel wrote:
It is well worth the investment.


How often did you have to have them?

Dec 15 12 05:32 am Link

Model

Figuremodel001

Posts: 307

Chicago, Illinois, US

Megan Camille wrote:
And boys, do you like the brazilian wax?

i have many questions regarding this and i want to hear different opinions. My boyfriend says that shaving everything makes me look like a baby and he doesnt like it. what about you?

Yes, brazilain is fine by me; disagree with the baby comment. Expect you mean on girls as compared to myself. I have had a brazilian wax myself, was going to work as a nude sushi platter and had a full body wax for the occasion.
Also had a situation involving paintings I had modeled for being used in a show. There was a determination that display of male pubic hair would not be allowed as it would be obsene. The judge involved has no problem with female pubic hair. Did get some frontal male nude paintings in as a result of hair removal.

Dec 15 12 01:13 pm Link

Photographer

Jirrupin

Posts: 1743

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

neat and trim please. bald downstairs a real turn off.

Dec 15 12 03:22 pm Link

Model

Selina Lee

Posts: 75

Mesa, Arizona, US

I shave totally bare most of the time. I do not like being furry for some reason. I think it's partly because I dye my hair blonde and having black hair "down there" doesn't look right, partly because it feels messy and unkempt to me regardless of if it's trimmed or not.

It doesn't make you look like a little girl, IMHO; I am pretty sure my 34Cs contradict that.

Legs are another story, they grow alllllll winter because I am wearing jeans or skirts with tights, and I lack the motivation to shave something that won't be seen.

And boyfriend does not care - he has no right to say anything either, because he could beat Sasquatch in the hairy category =P

Dec 15 12 03:45 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 34215

Los Angeles, California, US

OP is gone.

Dec 15 12 04:13 pm Link

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Koryn

Posts: 36969

Boston, Massachusetts, US

NYMPH wrote:
Itchy, stinky, mess.

Interesting.

The only time in my life I ever had problems with yeast infections was when I shaved completely.

I find the feeling of shaving/hair removal to be incredibly unpleasant. My skin will burn and itch afterward, regardless of the type of razor or cream I use, and nothing soothes it until the hair grows back in.

It genuinely baffles me when people say they shave "for comfort." I do not find a single thing comfortable about the process of hair removal.

Dec 15 12 04:49 pm Link

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Michael Griffey

Posts: 274

Conyers, Georgia, US

I prefer shooting contemporary fashion nudes rather than National Geographic case studies.

Besides, tastes great, less filling!

Dec 15 12 05:15 pm Link