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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

All,
Well the landlord has called time on my rental for the studio area and sadly with costs as is I cannot afford to rent or buy. So unless anybody is interested in a shared ownership or syndicate agreement on a property and studio business in South Essex it's going to be au-revoir. Am open to creative suggestions just to continue on.....thanks to all those photographers and models that have supported me. Hopefully something positive will happen. In the meantime I'll be looking or some cheap short term storage to put all the gear in.........fingers crossed.

Chris

Dec 11 12 11:36 am Link

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Marc Damon

Posts: 6562

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

Perhaps there is a studio nearby where you can rent space by the hour or by the day for projects that pay enough to support the expense. Beyond that, you need to network with your local photographers to find someone interested in sharing the cost of a full time space.

Good Luck

Dec 11 12 02:01 pm Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Thanks Marc,

I've been in touch with a few local guys. Had 1 positive response so far in terms of a syndication. Sadly the south east of England is relatively expensive in tems of rental and council rates, its hardly suprising when costs keep spiralling against the Governments austerity plans....... many shops are empty and businesses are folding.... being just outside London doesn't help with the costs. We'll still be paying for the Olympics for next 400 years but hopefully we'll be able to meet our overseas aid to India (has a space programme)Pakistan and Malawi.....etc

Sorry going off on one now....

Chris

Dec 11 12 11:53 pm Link

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Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5210

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Chris - really sorry to hear this. And at such a bad time too.

All the best to you.

Dec 11 12 11:55 pm Link

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ACPhotography

Posts: 8622

Plainview, New York, US

Festival Studios wrote:
Thanks Marc,

I've been in touch with a few local guys. Had 1 positive response so far in terms of a syndication. Sadly the south east of England is relatively expensive in tems of rental and council rates, its hardly suprising when costs keep spiralling against the Governments austerity plans....... many shops are empty and businesses are folding.... being just outside London doesn't help with the costs. We'll still be paying for the Olympics for next 400 years but hopefully we'll be able to meet our overseas aid to India (has a space programme)Pakistan and Malawi.....etc

Sorry going off on one now....

Chris

I feel your pain, rent and utilities are are outrageous here also... I've tried going in with other photographers and it always seems to fizzle out...

Dec 12 12 08:44 am Link

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MrTim

Posts: 410

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

The moves from the landlord often seem to defy all logic too; a mate had to move his studio after the landlord said the rent was going up by almost 50%, and the building has now been sat empty with a "To Let" sign out front for two and a half years since he vacated it. Not quite sure how that was a good business move by the owner!

Dec 12 12 08:54 am Link

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ACPhotography

Posts: 8622

Plainview, New York, US

MrTim wrote:
The moves from the landlord often seem to defy all logic too; a mate had to move his studio after the landlord said the rent was going up by almost 50%, and the building has now been sat empty with a "To Let" sign out front for two and a half years since he vacated it. Not quite sure how that was a good business move by the owner!

I'm not sure what your tax laws are there but here in the US sometimes it's better to have an empty space and write it off on your taxes as a loss then to rent. I'm sure in the new year it's going to get even worse. I've dealt with landlords who wouldn't budge and it's their over inflated price or nothing.

Dec 12 12 09:15 am Link

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Matt Knowles

Posts: 3563

Ferndale, California, US

MrTim wrote:
The moves from the landlord often seem to defy all logic too; a mate had to move his studio after the landlord said the rent was going up by almost 50%, and the building has now been sat empty with a "To Let" sign out front for two and a half years since he vacated it. Not quite sure how that was a good business move by the owner!

I had the same thing happen with my first studio. Tiny space I was paying $600 a month for. I put a bunch of my own money into fixing up the space, and two years later at the start of the recession, the landlord wanted to raise the rent to $650. I had been after her trying to get her to fix the bathroom I shared with another tenant with no luck and I was outgrowing the space so the rent increase was enough motivation to move.

Another building that had larger spaces had just been renovated so I moved my studio there. It wasn't a Main St. location but that was fine with me. It was about double the space for the same $600 rent. Two years later, my old space finally got rented out, so the owner lost about $15,000 if she was able to re-rent it at the $650 she was asking. It will take her 25 years of the increased rent to make up what she lost. I was a good tenant too, always paid rent on time, unlike some of the other businesses in the building.

Dec 12 12 10:08 am Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Yes seems like madness. Have checked on other buildings some that have stood vacant or over a year and have offered what on the face of it seems like a reasonable offer...... Still a no straight off the bat. Just a crazy situation to be in.

Dec 12 12 12:44 pm Link

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Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5083

Catskill, New York, US

That's a shame, I'm really sorry to hear that. I looked for a very long time just to find any suitable space to rent by the hour, by the day, whatever so I can relate to your pain.

Dec 12 12 07:04 pm Link

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FiveOne November

Posts: 172

Rochester, New York, US

Festival Studios wrote:
Yes seems like madness. Have checked on other buildings some that have stood vacant or over a year and have offered what on the face of it seems like a reasonable offer...... Still a no straight off the bat. Just a crazy situation to be in.

I'm sorry to hear your circumstances.

I just found a space in one of the long-empty storefronts along the main street in our town for just $350/mo and I've moved my main business to it and also have room for the studio. It's small, but it will work for most of what I do.

The landlord was apparently sick of the place being empty and so we'll see how it goes!

Joe

Dec 13 12 09:08 am Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Off out tomorrow to look for some storage. Will give myself 3 months I think and if I can't get sorted I think much of the old stuff will be heading for EBAY. Have a small area that a friend will let me use for one off jobs.... Best I can do so far...

Chris

Dec 14 12 12:30 pm Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Hello all,

Just to say I have some good news and have managed to secure a property on Canvey Island in Essex so am back in the game.......

Good size a little over 2000ft will be sub divided. Initially reception/office area with changing room. Portrait studio and fashion area. Glamour/infinity cove along with new toilet and shower. Big project and very exciting. Will be looking for a good size model list of course. Plan to do regular, group, tuition, portfolio shoots alongside studio hire and syndication. Anyway.... Plenty of work to do yet. Thanks for the support that's been out here for me

Cheers

Chris

Feb 15 13 02:14 pm Link

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Jay Strange

Posts: 127

Tampa, Florida, US

Congrats Chris!!!
Best of luck!

Feb 15 13 02:25 pm Link

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Farenell Photography

Posts: 18130

Albany, New York, US

Operate out of your home. In the downturn in the world economy, you'd be surprise how many professionals (defined as those who do this for a living & which pays a majority of their bills) have done so to cut down on overhead.

Could also think about shooting exclusively on-location. My bring a vastly different dynamic to your work.

Feb 15 13 02:28 pm Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Thanks for your comments guys.

Chris

Feb 16 13 01:33 am Link

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Darren Brade

Posts: 2831

London, England, United Kingdom

ACPhotography wrote:

I'm not sure what your tax laws are there but here in the US sometimes it's better to have an empty space and write it off on your taxes as a loss then to rent. I'm sure in the new year it's going to get even worse. I've dealt with landlords who wouldn't budge and it's their over inflated price or nothing.

I think it is the same here otherwise there wouldn't be so many empty properties

Feb 16 13 01:39 am Link

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RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

How big/small is the studio and what amount of work do you have coming-in?
Do you have full books for studio work or is it being subsidised by wedding and location work?

I know a couple of mates in the UK are having the same dilemma: plenty of weddings, but not so much studio work to justify keeping one open.

However another guy I know has recently given up his travelling-studio work (literally going door-to-door offering family portraits) and settled down in a home studio taking weekend bookings only and he's chocca...

*edit* sorry I missed the post where you found a new location in Canvey Island.

Feb 16 13 01:48 am Link

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Festival Studio

Posts: 43

Canvey Island, England, United Kingdom

Ha Ha.... Thanks for showing interest anyway......

Chris

Feb 16 13 10:04 am Link