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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

I usually always use strobes for my work if it is inside. But sometimes I am asked to shoot parties. At the moment I just have a speedlight mounted on the hotshoe of my camera.
Does anyone ever use brakets to get the speedlight a little higher? Ive seen them but dont know much about them and if they are just a waste of money.

Thanks
J.R.

Dec 12 12 09:32 pm Link

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D S P

Posts: 510

Portland, Oregon, US

Yes, both myself and my son use them for event photography. Be sure you get one that will adjust easily and quickly for both horizontal and vertical shooting. We also use an off camera TTL cord.

I know several other shooters that don't bother with them.

Dec 12 12 09:49 pm Link

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Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11598

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I use a basic Stroboframe. It flips from horizontal to vertical quickly and does a nice job.

Dec 12 12 11:11 pm Link

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Albertex Photography

Posts: 15402

Mansfield, Texas, US

We have a Jones bracket and Custom Bracket.  I really like the Custom bracket since, well it is customizable. 
http://www.custombrackets.com/

Dec 12 12 11:22 pm Link

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 6987

Eugene, Oregon, US

Really right stuff has a very good one - but out of my price range

Dec 13 12 12:51 am Link

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Fotografica Gregor

Posts: 4122

Alexandria, Virginia, US

I really love this one

http://store.promediagear.com/Flash-Bra … _p_10.html

http://store.promediagear.com/Flash-Bra … _p_30.html


I've been through several others over time but found this to be the lightest quickest to adjust and sturdiest.....

Dec 13 12 12:57 am Link

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GM Photography

Posts: 6100

Olympia, Washington, US

I used to, but now for the rare times I use it on camera, I just bounce and/or use my Flashbender like Neil Van Niekerk's "black foamy thing" (http://neilvn.com/tangents/about/black-foamie-thing).  Better results and easier to work with.

Dec 13 12 05:47 am Link

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Ezhini

Posts: 1601

Wichita, Kansas, US

I dont have one of these, but I have seen a photographer shoot with this once and seemed like a pretty handy thing:  Custom Brackets Digital PRO-E Camera Rotating Bracket

Dec 13 12 06:00 am Link

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Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

I never shoot without it. There are so many times it comes in handy. A little light here and there always seems to help.

With the new swivel and tilt heads on flashes today, adding a bracket means I can put light just about anywhere.

Dec 13 12 06:10 am Link

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photoimager

Posts: 4906

Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom

Stroboframe Pro-T user.

The flash flips so that it is always above the lens, not to one side in 'portrait' orientation.

If I need more mobility / flexibility then I'll not use the bracket, holding the flash using the same TTL sync lead as with the bracket. This is OK for short durations but with a gripped 'pro body' and F2.8 zoom I prefer the two handed camera support of using the bracket.

Dec 13 12 06:33 am Link

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ACPhotography

Posts: 8622

Plainview, New York, US

I have a Custom Brackets one and I also have a Really Right Stuff bracket... I'm actually getting rid of the CB one in favor of the RRS one because I can do so much more with the RRS one and it stores much easier. Granted to use the RRS one you need either an L bracket or on a lens with a foot but I've already got those covered...

Dec 13 12 06:41 am Link

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-Ira

Posts: 2187

New York, New York, US

This works for me, http://www.amazon.com/Stroboframe-Quick … B00009UTLM

Although the camera does have a tendency to come a bit loose and spin on the base.

Dec 13 12 06:43 am Link

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David Westlake

Posts: 1530

Mansfield Center, Connecticut, US

Tim Little Photography wrote:
I use a basic Stroboframe. It flips from horizontal to vertical quickly and does a nice job.

+1

Dec 13 12 06:45 am Link

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Matt Forma

Posts: 373

Denver, Colorado, US

In addition, what is the diffuser of choice amongst you flash bracket users?

Dec 13 12 11:15 am Link

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Leighthenubian

Posts: 2964

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Mad-Ox Photography wrote:
I usually always use strobes for my work if it is inside. But sometimes I am asked to shoot parties. At the moment I just have a speedlight mounted on the hotshoe of my camera.
Does anyone ever use brakets to get the speedlight a little higher? Ive seen them but dont know much about them and if they are just a waste of money.

Thanks
J.R.

Events, weddings..flash on top of the camera and I bounce of ceilings and walls playing with the ISO. I have a black-foamie-thing: http://neilvn.com/tangents/about/black-foamie-thing/

I've tried all sorts of gadgets and nothing beats it even when I use the flash off camera.

Dec 13 12 12:05 pm Link

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Ken Fields Photography

Posts: 147

Wailuku, Hawaii, US

Ezhini wrote:
I dont have one of these, but I have seen a photographer shoot with this once and seemed like a pretty handy thing:  Custom Brackets Digital PRO-E Camera Rotating Bracket

+1 - I use it all the time, like it a lot.

Dec 13 12 12:18 pm Link

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MC Film

Posts: 1761

New York, New York, US

Illuminate wrote:

Events, weddings..flash on top of the camera and I bounce of ceilings and walls playing with the ISO. I have a black-foamie-thing: http://neilvn.com/tangents/about/black-foamie-thing/

I've tried all sorts of gadgets and nothing beats it even when I use the flash off camera.

Quantum makes a silver "bare bulb enhancer" which is meant to give you more distance from the bare bulb, but it's also very effective when aimed like the BFT. By flagging the light up close, you're putting the subject in open shade.

Dec 13 12 02:09 pm Link

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Mike Collins

Posts: 1921

Orlando, Florida, US

Matt Forma wrote:
In addition, what is the diffuser of choice amongst you flash bracket users?

This:  http://www.dembflashproducts.com/flipit/

I love how you can adjust the white card to either bounce more or less or flip it all the way back and out of the way if need be.

I like brackets for a number of reasons.  Higher flash.  Stays in position when rotating camera.  I can hold on to the handle more securely then I can the camera grip when not shooting.

And...I look cool. smile

Dec 13 12 02:21 pm Link

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James Morgan aka Maddog

Posts: 102

Burlison, Tennessee, US

I have one I use for weddings, parties, and outdoor shoots, got it on Ebay.  Works okay.. But better ones are out there.

Dec 13 12 02:29 pm Link

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Matt Forma

Posts: 373

Denver, Colorado, US

Mike Collins wrote:

This:  http://www.dembflashproducts.com/flipit/

I love how you can adjust the white card to either bounce more or less or flip it all the way back and out of the way if need be.

I like brackets for a number of reasons.  Higher flash.  Stays in position when rotating camera.  I can hold on to the handle more securely then I can the camera grip when not shooting.

And...I look cool. smile

Thanks man

Dec 13 12 08:43 pm Link

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R_Marquez

Posts: 4622

San Francisco, California, US

I have a couple and I rarely use either for events. Most of the time, I forget I have them. I use it more when I'm using a tripod to easily flip between portrait and horizontal.

I never felt they made that much of a difference when looking at shots that I did with, and without.

Dec 13 12 11:17 pm Link

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Michael Broughton

Posts: 2244

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/168/9/a/flash_by_maltfalc-d53uhon.jpg

Dec 13 12 11:25 pm Link

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Per Rutquist

Posts: 136

Freiburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

When the speedlite is on the camera, the far background will always look dark, no matter where you aim the flash.

If there are only one or two rooms to cover, I'll place a couple of speed-lites in each room, gelled to match the color temp of the existing lights (or window-light). There is usually at least one shelf somewhere that can fit a speed-lite, aimed at the ceiling.

Then I only have to carry a radio transmitter on the camera, and I get natural-looking pictures with no noise or motion blur.

Dec 14 12 01:53 am Link

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MirrorImage Photography

Posts: 407

Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, US

I have used the Stroboframe for the last 9 yrs. and swear by it!!!!!! It's awesome, fast flip for vert. and horz. easy to use.... I use it for everything i do on location wither inside or outside.... get it, you wont be dissapointed, and since your new to the idea of wither to use it or not, by all means use it, it makes a big difference in flash photography smile  good luck!!!

Dec 14 12 02:02 am Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 9562

Seattle, Washington, US

Matt Forma wrote:
In addition, what is the diffuser of choice amongst you flash bracket users?

Just put a piece of Scotch tape over the flash head.

Dec 14 12 02:28 am Link

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Ken D Photography

Posts: 676

Marietta, Ohio, US

Michael Broughton wrote:
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/168/9/a/flash_by_maltfalc-d53uhon.jpg

Haven't seen one of these used for many years, I still have one someplace, along with the Vivitar bounce card that fits the 283.

Dec 14 12 03:38 am Link

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David Parsons

Posts: 972

Quincy, Massachusetts, US

Per Rutquist wrote:
When the speedlite is on the camera, the far background will always look dark, no matter where you aim the flash.

Only if you don't balance for ambient.

Dec 14 12 05:20 am Link

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GCobb Photography

Posts: 15894

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Tim Little Photography wrote:
I use a basic Stroboframe. It flips from horizontal to vertical quickly and does a nice job.

I've been using these for years.

Dec 14 12 05:24 am Link

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GCobb Photography

Posts: 15894

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Matt Forma wrote:
In addition, what is the diffuser of choice amongst you flash bracket users?

I use a mini-softbox and I have one by Lumiquest as well.

Dec 14 12 05:25 am Link

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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

Wow! Thanks everyone! I didnt think anyone was responding as I dont have my e-mail notifications on...

Thanks again... Im going to go through all the links and everyones post...

Im sure I will have more questions after ready them all.

J.R.

Cant photography just be easy as clicking the darn button?

Dec 14 12 11:48 am Link

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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

Illuminate wrote:

Events, weddings..flash on top of the camera and I bounce of ceilings and walls playing with the ISO. I have a black-foamie-thing: http://neilvn.com/tangents/about/black-foamie-thing/

I've tried all sorts of gadgets and nothing beats it even when I use the flash off camera.

Question about the BFT. Is this only good for bouncing light? The video that was on this link only shows bouncing the light. The few times I do use my speedlight it is usually in dark night clubs with dark walls.

Dec 14 12 02:32 pm Link

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Lee_Photography

Posts: 8824

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Mad-Ox Photography wrote:
I usually always use strobes for my work if it is inside. But sometimes I am asked to shoot parties. At the moment I just have a speedlight mounted on the hotshoe of my camera.
Does anyone ever use brakets to get the speedlight a little higher? Ive seen them but dont know much about them and if they are just a waste of money.

Thanks
J.R.

The bracket will do a few things for you
If you shoot the camera in a vertical position, the bracket will flip the flash over the top center of the lens this will give you shadows below your subject, not off to the side

If you shoot a long lens it will raise the flash so the lens will not block the flash and cause a shadow

It will also raise the flash to help reduce the possibility of red eye

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Dec 14 12 08:33 pm Link

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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

Thanks Lee... For my budget right now and seeing how I hardly ever use a speedlight I think I will go with the Stobroframe.  It seems to be what Im looking for in the right price range....

Dec 14 12 08:38 pm Link

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photo212grapher

Posts: 1550

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Ken D Photography wrote:

Haven't seen one of these used for many years, I still have one someplace, along with the Vivitar bounce card that fits the 283.

Ditto. I know where my bracket and bounce card are stored. What I do not know  is how to adapt the shutter release of the new digital button work with the old plunge cable release without getting all Rube Goldberg about it.

Dec 14 12 10:12 pm Link

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Michael Broughton

Posts: 2244

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

photo212grapher wrote:

Ditto. I know where my bracket and bounce card are stored. What I do not know  is how to adapt the shutter release of the new digital button work with the old plunge cable release without getting all Rube Goldberg about it.

i've considered drilling and tapping the shutter release button so that a cable release could be screwed into it like with old film cameras, or mounting a small bracket to the top of the camera with a bit of velcro next to the button that would hold the cable release in position over the button.

Dec 14 12 11:33 pm Link

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David Parsons

Posts: 972

Quincy, Massachusetts, US

Michael Broughton wrote:

i've considered drilling and tapping the shutter release button so that a cable release could be screwed into it like with old film cameras, or mounting a small bracket to the top of the camera with a bit of velcro next to the button that would hold the cable release in position over the button.

You don't want to be drilling into your shutter button.  There's a micro switch under it.

You'd be better off to make a release cable by finding a two stage NO push switch wired to the remote shutter release port of your camera (assuming that your camera uses a standard stereo jack for the re ote shutter release).

That way you can still use the handle like you want, without drilling random holes in your camera.

Dec 17 12 12:53 pm Link

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paragonfl

Posts: 288

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Suggest Yongnuo RF 602RX... remote flash trigger, you can hand hold the flash or put it on a tripod or anywhere within about 100 feet.

It ALSO is a remote shutter trigger... 2 for 1.

Dec 17 12 01:07 pm Link

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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

Ok this is weird. Now my YH 468II is not working. It works once then doesnt work... I have it on the hotshoe mount on my 5D mark II.

Last weekend it was working every time now I cant get it to work.

Any suggestions other than throwing it in the trash...

Thanks

Dec 17 12 05:20 pm Link

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JR Maddox Photography

Posts: 44

Simi Valley, California, US

Hey everyone! Another question.. I went and got the Stroboframe and now when I attatch the Canon 420 EX speeed lite the AF assist beam  doesnt match up with the AF on the camera. I move it to where it would be close and it works but is there a way that I can resolve this?
When I go into portrait mode I cant get it close with out changing where the AF sensor on the camera is.

Dec 28 12 12:31 pm Link

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 6987

Eugene, Oregon, US

Make sure it has a anti twist devise on it or can be adapted so it will not twist.

Dec 28 12 12:33 pm Link