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Babalon Salome

Posts: 3499

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Dear MUAs, I humbly ask for your advice. I used the search function first but couldn't find answers to all of my questions regarding this issue.

I am required to do my own make-up for a short film project I am participating in that will be shot in HD. When we screen tested the make-up I usually do on myself for shoots I wasn't happy with how it looked in close-ups - the foundation seemed to sit on the skin and in its pores.

The foundation I use is Le Fluide by Paris Berlin Maquillage. I use L'Oreal Studio Secrets Smoothing Perfecting Primer only on the fine lines under my eyes and on my nose and forehead where my pores are larger. I use very little of both and apply everything with my fingers. This is what I wear in the vast majority of the pictures in my portfolio and I have always liked the way it photographs.

My skin is normal to oily, clear twenties skin with some redness on the cheeks, some minor discoloration (a few scars left behind by spots) and some fine lines under the eyes. It is so pale it almost glows in the dark and has a very cool pink undertone. My pores are pretty fine except for on the nose and on the center of the forehead.

So, my questions are:

What foundation could I try that provides medium coverage (redness), is suitable for HD and is available in super pale shades? Brands I could easily get my hands on (meaning they are available in Germany) include Illamasqua, Kryolan, Smashbox, MAC, Bobbi Brown, Bourjois, Nyx, and most of the high end consumer brands.

What type of brush should I get to achieve an HD suitable medium coverage with a liquid foundation - a stippling brush, a buffing brush...? I have never used a brush to apply my foundation before and I would like to give it a try, I am just confused as to what kind of brush to get.

Would a different primer make much of a difference to how the foundation will look on HD?

Anything else I need to keep in mind when doing my own make-up for HD?

Any help would be most appreciated smile

Dec 29 12 02:40 pm Link

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Vanita MUA

Posts: 57

Seattle, Washington, US

I use Graftobian Hi-def and apply it with a wet wedge sponge, usually spritz with MAC Fix Plus.

Dec 29 12 06:45 pm Link

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Tegan Lynn MUA

Posts: 511

Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

Vanita MUA wrote:
I use Graftobian Hi-def and apply it with a wet wedge sponge, usually spritz with MAC Fix Plus.

And they make some pretty pale shades. 'Porcelain Doll' matches me perfectly, and I'm too pale for a lot of brands.

Dec 29 12 06:49 pm Link

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Babalon Salome

Posts: 3499

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Sadly, I don't think Graftobian is available in Germany, and my skin tone is so weird that I would definitely want to be able to test a new foundation before buying it. I'd much prefer something I could just pick up at a counter for a number of reasons.

Are HD foundations usually cremes? I have only ever worked with liquids, so I'd prefer a liquid foundation.

Dec 29 12 07:04 pm Link

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Tegan Lynn MUA

Posts: 511

Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

Babalon Salome wrote:
Sadly, I don't think Graftobian is available in Germany, and my skin tone is so weird that I would definitely want to be able to test a new foundation before buying it.

I'm pretty sure CRC ships there, and you can order samples from them before purchasing the full size product. That's what I did when I was modelling before I got into makeup artistry.

They also offer a colour match service so if you can find a sample of a foundation that matches your skin tone (even cheapo stuff will do so long as it's the right colour), they can find what brands offer similar shades.

http://camerareadycosmetics.com/product … ation.html

Dec 29 12 07:22 pm Link

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Linda Chudomelova

Posts: 133

Prague, Prague, Czech Republic

You can also try and contact them here http://www.graftobian.com/contact.jsp and ask about a European dealer if you don't want to go through the headache of importing from outside EU. I know that love-makeup.co.uk stocks them, but at the moment they only have one concealer palette.

However, I think that every MUA has their favorite foundation; I don't think that there's one that's a catch-all for everyone.

KJB's www.inmykit.com recommends Kryolan HD Micro Foundation (among others), so if it's easily available to you, I'd give it a shot.

Dec 29 12 11:00 pm Link

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Cynna Stylz MUA

Posts: 217

New York, New York, US

Hi,

Try a different application technique before you change the makeup...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmZm3vwrF8Q
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD5zX-i0Srk

I hope this helps smile
(Congrats on the movie opportunity.  Would like to see your part in the movie too)

I hope this helps,
Good Luck
Cyn

Dec 30 12 01:25 am Link

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Andrew James Makeup

Posts: 335

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

HD is more of a technique rather than a specific product

but the Graftobian HD Foundations are awesome or Makeup forever is good too

Dec 30 12 02:32 pm Link

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Tara Pagliara MUA

Posts: 704

New York, New York, US

Illamasqua, I cant rave about the SKIN BASE line enough. Its virtually the most perfect foundation for HD. Just my .02c

Dec 30 12 02:59 pm Link

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Babalon Salome

Posts: 3499

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Tara Pags wrote:
Illamasqua, I cant rave about the SKIN BASE line enough. Its virtually the most perfect foundation for HD. Just my .02c

Thank you, I am considering getting Skin Base. How would I apply it for HD, with a stippling brush or a buffing brush or...?

Dec 30 12 03:00 pm Link

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Tara Pagliara MUA

Posts: 704

New York, New York, US

Babalon Salome wrote:

Thank you, I am considering getting Skin Base. How would I apply it for HD, with a stippling brush or a buffing brush or...?

I would use a stipple brush work it in good then a flat buffer brush to really get it in there. Then use a large fan brush and LIGHTLY dust a HD powder all over your face not too much though just enough to get rid of any extra shine. smile

Dec 30 12 03:08 pm Link

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Jaime Criel Makeup

Posts: 149

New York, New York, US

Remember that TRUE HD foundations are CREATED using HD technology. Meaning that when you look at the formula under a microscope the pigment looks the exact same way an HD wave length would look under a microscope. If you want TRUE HD makeup, do the research on what lines offer these. The more common type of makeup that is on the market will not have the same effect on an HD or Red camera as an HD foundation will.

Dec 30 12 06:34 pm Link

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xMissLaurenElizabethx

Posts: 84

Boca Raton, Florida, US

I've heard nothing but wonderful, positive things about the majority of Graftobian's products - particularly the foundation palettes... I couldn't resist, after weeks of watching everyone else drool over them, I had to get a couple myself - I have the HD Dual Finish Foundation Powder Palette and the Creme HD Foundation Palettes - BIG difference, love them both...

Dec 30 12 07:46 pm Link

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Mary

Posts: 7168

Coronado, California, US

xCountryQueenx wrote:
I've heard nothing but wonderful, positive things about the majority of Graftobian's products - particularly the foundation palettes... I couldn't resist, after weeks of watching everyone else drool over them, I had to get a couple myself - I have the HD Dual Finish Foundation Powder Palette and the Creme HD Foundation Palettes - BIG difference, love them both...

Dec 31 12 09:41 pm Link

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Wilde Hunt Corsetry

Posts: 344

Columbus, Ohio, US

I'm a fan of Makeup Forever's HD foundation. I'm quite pale and use #117. The texture is really lovely it is so smooth it just melts into the skin. Photographs beautifully.

Jan 03 13 11:03 am Link

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AngieM makeup artistry

Posts: 1

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Kett hydro foundation is great for hd. You can either apply it with a sponge, brush, or in an airbrush machine. I would suggest since you are not an artist and only using it on your self to apply with one of those pink sponges. It is fragrance free, oil free, silicone free and paraben free. You can also mix the colors to get your perfect shade! It costs 10 cents per application.

Jan 03 13 06:49 pm Link

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boy does makeup

Posts: 227

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I use the Graftobian HD Creme palette in 'Warm' applied with a foundation brush, and finished with MUFE translucent powder to soften the sheen. - the creme goes on sheer-to-full and can be left alone for a 'dewy' look, or buffed with powder for a softer look.

hope this helps.

Jan 04 13 09:22 am Link

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boy does makeup

Posts: 227

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Andii James wrote:
HD is more of a technique rather than a specific product

but the Graftobian HD Foundations are awesome or Makeup forever is good too

unfortunately... no, that is not true. http://www.graftobian.com/commerce/cata … catId=1007

http://blog.sephora.com/2009/06/what-is … akeup.html


there IS a difference.

Jan 04 13 09:28 am Link