Forums > Newbie Forum > MM newbie here, I got a question

Model

Sadie York

Posts: 3

London, England, United Kingdom

Hi, everyone! I'm Sadie, I just got approved yesterday and I'm loving the site even though it's a little overwhelming to jump right in.

Anyway, my question. In browsing around profiles I've seen a lot of models saying they had a great shoot but they haven't received the pics yet. I'm sure it's just my ignorance but to me that sounds like a bad idea, I'd be very reluctant to leave a shoot without the finished pics. So what protection is there to ensure the model receives her pics?

Thanks for the help!

Dec 31 12 04:17 am Link

Hair Stylist

India M

Posts: 5

Lawrence, Kansas, US

I just started my account too!

In my (very limited) experience, ya gotta give the photographer time to go through, pick the best shots, and edit them into a thing of beauty. Just make sure you've discussed the time frame of that process before you start the shoot.

Dec 31 12 04:25 am Link

Photographer

Kev Lawson

Posts: 7811

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Welcome to MM both of you smile

Yes, make sure you discuss everything with the photographer ahead of time. Discuss how many shots you should receive, time frame to receive them, etc...

You can always contact models they have worked with to try and get a reference, just look for credited images. Just use some due diligence  and everything should be ok. For every person you hear say they did not get the images, there are tons that do, so it is a very small percentage that do not.

You should read newmodels.com which contains alot of useful info. Also read thru the sticky threads at the top of each forum, they contain the rules for each forum and other goodies to help you get started here.

Best wishes to you both and good luck. smile

Dec 31 12 04:38 am Link

Hair Stylist

India M

Posts: 5

Lawrence, Kansas, US

UltimateAppeal wrote:
You should read newmodels.com which contains alot of useful info. Also read thru the sticky threads at the top of each forum, they contain the rules for each forum and other goodies to help you get started here.

Best wishes to you both and good luck. smile

Awesome, checking it out now! I've been devouring literature like this.

I've started my own questions thread. My questions are specific to makeup/hair work, but maybe you'll have some insight on what you look for in a MUA?

Thanks for the warm welcome. smile

Dec 31 12 04:54 am Link

Model

Sadie York

Posts: 3

London, England, United Kingdom

UltimateAppeal wrote:
Welcome to MM both of you smile

Yes, make sure you discuss everything with the photographer ahead of time. Discuss how many shots you should receive, time frame to receive them, etc...

You can always contact models they have worked with to try and get a reference, just look for credited images. Just use some due diligence  and everything should be ok. For every person you hear say they did not get the images, there are tons that do, so it is a very small percentage that do not.

You should read newmodels.com which contains alot of useful info. Also read thru the sticky threads at the top of each forum, they contain the rules for each forum and other goodies to help you get started here.

Best wishes to you both and good luck. smile

Thanks for all the info! big_smile

Dec 31 12 06:11 am Link

Photographer

Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5083

Catskill, New York, US

Hi Sadie, Welcome to MM.
There are a few forces at work here. What your reading about is models working with unprofessional unreliable photographers. The key to having a successful shoot for both parties is to check references as best you can, be very clear about what you expect from the shoot, sign a release etc etc.

Secondly it's unreasonable to expect to leave the shoot location with any pictures let alone all the pictures. No photographer is going to release unprocessed images to the client unless there's a huge payoff involved.

Most legitimate "professional" photographers will follow through and deliver the products they say they'll deliver. If they didn't they wouldn't be in business.

Maybe I'm throwing some words around here but you see what I'm getting at.

Dec 31 12 06:46 am Link

Photographer

Ray E Garner

Posts: 126

Asheboro, North Carolina, US

Sadie,
That is a very good question,Most photographers do try to get the images to the model in a reasonable time,But there are some that take forever to get them ready,I try to get started editing the images as soon as the shoot is finished and email the model some of the images web ready so she can see and use any of them and to let her know that I'm working on them,It takes less than two weeks for me to edit and send them in the mail,The next shoot that you do you might want to ask the photographer to write down when he or she will have your images back to you,Best of luck in your modeling.
Ray...

Dec 31 12 12:16 pm Link

Photographer

name removed3

Posts: 264

Boston, Massachusetts, US

you can wait for the pics after shoot I guess?

Dec 31 12 12:19 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22603

Salem, Oregon, US

you can ask for a CD at the end of the shoot (but maybe make this request upfront). but some photographers won't take well to that. i will do that for models i like (but they might have to wait around for an hour).

otherwise check references and make sure some models are getting images.

trade shoots are iffy. you take your chances. i've even heard of models paying and getting stiffed. just how it goes in the wild, wild west.

if you find a reliable photographer stick to them like a fly to flypaper. lol.

Dec 31 12 12:47 pm Link

Photographer

J David Photos

Posts: 62

Washington, District of Columbia, US

well said


Aaron Lewis Photography wrote:
Hi Sadie, Welcome to MM.
There are a few forces at work here. What your reading about is models working with unprofessional unreliable photographers. The key to having a successful shoot for both parties is to check references as best you can, be very clear about what you expect from the shoot, sign a release etc etc.

Secondly it's unreasonable to expect to leave the shoot location with any pictures let alone all the pictures. No photographer is going to release unprocessed images to the client unless there's a huge payoff involved.

Most legitimate "professional" photographers will follow through and deliver the products they say they'll deliver. If they didn't they wouldn't be in business.

Maybe I'm trowing some words around here but you see what I'm getting at.

Dec 31 12 10:50 pm Link

Photographer

F O R B E S

Posts: 411

New York, New York, US

i'd advise you to use references. Ask other models about their experience working with that particular photographer and the time period the photographer took to send the model the photos, then decide whether or not you want to work with them.

Jan 01 13 03:01 pm Link

Photographer

Jackson frontier photos

Posts: 531

Joplin, Missouri, US

This is how I do it.  I would get you some of the images the same day of the shoot electronically and all of them on a flash drive in a few days.  I just ask models to obtain consent before using them.  I'd never be offended by a model clarifying what she wanted.  With few exceptions I can't get models to communicate almost anything so I don't have any idea what they want.  Hell, most models on MM check their inbox less than monthly if at all.  So, ask ask ask, some of us love it given the context.

Jan 01 13 05:32 pm Link

Photographer

Marc Damon

Posts: 6562

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

Sadie York wrote:
Hi, everyone! I'm Sadie, I just got approved yesterday and I'm loving the site even though it's a little overwhelming to jump right in.

Anyway, my question. In browsing around profiles I've seen a lot of models saying they had a great shoot but they haven't received the pics yet. I'm sure it's just my ignorance but to me that sounds like a bad idea, I'd be very reluctant to leave a shoot without the finished pics. So what protection is there to ensure the model receives her pics?

Thanks for the help!

You got a question? Cool. What does it look like? What color is it? Is it heavy?
-Sorry. Just in one of those sarcastic moods I suppose. tongue

There is lots of fantastic info in the forums for new models. The link and suggestion to read www.newmodels.com is a great one. Dig into the forums. Give more weight to posts from gatekeepers, moderators and admins along with those who have considerable experience (you can figure out who those people are on your own). Never take a wooden nickel as payment unless it's highly collectable and NEVER believe most things you read online.

Good luck

Jan 01 13 06:08 pm Link

Model

Sadie York

Posts: 3

London, England, United Kingdom

Thanks for all the great tips everyone smile

Jan 02 13 04:21 pm Link