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Photographer

SCAM Photography

Posts: 958

Mansfield, Ohio, US

I just got done looking through the casting calls posted by photographers in Illinois and out of the 25 or so ads I clicked on I saw maybe 7 people in total responded. I thinks that's pretty sad with a major city like Chicago in that search criteria.

My question is have many of you had success with posting casting calls or do you find talent using other means like Facebook and or Craigslist?

Jan 01 13 08:22 pm Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24078

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Maybe the other photographers sucked and no one wanted to work with them?

A lot of people have been or are out of town for the holidays, or had to work extra due to the holidays.



Andrew Thomas Evans
www.andrewthomasevans.com

Jan 01 13 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

Sonn

Posts: 338

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

I think its because people just message directly, not reply to the casting calls.
Thats what i do anyway and what happens when i run a casting call.

However i stopped doing casting calls on mm because i get far more responses to the casting calls elsewhere.

I have still had good results on mm though, i just message models i want to work with directly.

Jan 01 13 08:25 pm Link

Photographer

TrianglePhoto

Posts: 582

Chicago, Illinois, US

I've always had mixed luck with my casting calls - even when I get a lot of responses, I still doesn't always seem to translate in to having a shoot...

I prefer to just drop a message to models I'm interested in working with and pitch the project directly - I have had a lot more luck that way.

Jan 01 13 08:27 pm Link

Photographer

SCAM Photography

Posts: 958

Mansfield, Ohio, US

TrianglePhoto wrote:
I've always had mixed luck with my casting calls - even when I get a lot of responses, I still doesn't always seem to translate in to having a shoot...

I prefer to just drop a message to models I'm interested in working with and pitch the project directly - I have had a lot more luck that way.

Good idea!

Jan 01 13 08:35 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22618

Salem, Oregon, US

i did a casting for boudoir and got three on CL and zero on mayhem. i did a casting for a vargas homage shoot and got two on mayhem.

i just respond personally to castings. i don't use the built-in response thingie.

Jan 01 13 09:04 pm Link

Photographer

LA StarShooter

Posts: 1875

Los Angeles, California, US

I have just posted castings and it's a lot of work compared to a year ago. I am posting annoucments and getting some interest but, wow, compared to a year ago around April, I was running hot. And I think maybe its MM castings may not show up very well on people's phones. I could be wrong. I am grateful to MM for the shoot Is have done through it, but I noticed people saying the number of threads on Photography Talk were greatly diminished, so I wondered if it's more difficult to see or access forums on some phones.

I seem to only have real success by directly contacting models.

Jan 01 13 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

R Michael Walker

Posts: 11986

Costa Mesa, California, US

SCAM Photography wrote:
I just got done looking through the casting calls posted by photographers in Illinois and out of the 25 or so ads I clicked on I saw maybe 7 people in total responded. I thinks that's pretty sad with a major city like Chicago in that search criteria.

My question is have many of you had success with posting casting calls or do you find talent using other means like Facebook and or Craigslist?

Most people directly PM the person posting the casting. I always ask that they do this.

Jan 01 13 09:23 pm Link

Photographer

SCAM Photography

Posts: 958

Mansfield, Ohio, US

I've posted a couple casting calls and the sounds coming from the crickets was deafening! Other times one or two hits.

Jan 01 13 09:57 pm Link

Photographer

El Roi Photography

Posts: 457

Elizabeth, Indiana, US

I post casting calls off and on, and depending on the time of year and availability of photographers that are closer to the model, that makes a big difference. Also many models do not respond to a casting call, rather they send the photographer a message and save time on waiting for the photographer to write them back...

Jan 01 13 10:02 pm Link

Photographer

bmiSTUDIO

Posts: 1734

Essex Junction, Vermont, US

SCAM Photography wrote:
I just got done looking through the casting calls posted by photographers in Illinois and out of the 25 or so ads I clicked on I saw maybe 7 people in total responded. I thinks that's pretty sad with a major city like Chicago in that search criteria.

My question is have many of you had success with posting casting calls or do you find talent using other means like Facebook and or Craigslist?

Quality is a big factor in how many people respond and who responds. I posted a casting call for a male model and had a dozen responses in the first couple days. I suppose if my work sucked, I would get less response. I see lots of models posting casting calls. They tend to be less talented and less experienced. They get a few responses from photographers with the same talent level. It's pretty easy to see the correlation.

Jan 01 13 10:08 pm Link

Photographer

Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

To me casting calls cuts down on the time consuming task of individually contacting models. The ones that respond do have interest on what I am offering and the odds are on my favor. So far it has been working.

Jan 01 13 10:17 pm Link

Photographer

Lovely Day Media

Posts: 4315

Vineland, New Jersey, US

When I place casting calls, I'm doing good if there is one response.  When I respond to casting calls, I'm doing good if I get a response.

Jan 01 13 11:33 pm Link

Photographer

Mickle Design Werks

Posts: 5949

Washington, District of Columbia, US

I still think they are useful but for me it's hard to get the Models or Stylists that that I  want to work with through castings.

Once the Models or Stylist reach a certain level of confidence with their work they often don't need to cast for Photographers. They cast more for paying work.

Jan 02 13 12:31 am Link

Photographer

Stephen K Photography

Posts: 144

Sacramento, California, US

I think it depends on where you post the castings also. In a bigger, more populated area, you really get more responses than you even want to deal with (mostly via message).

Also depends on what you post in the casting call, because people do read them believe it or not.

Jan 02 13 12:33 am Link

Photographer

Chris David Photography

Posts: 477

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

I rarely put up casting calls but each time I have I felt flooded with responses which came back more as private messages then tags. From at least 20 for a very last minute shoot to close to a hundred for one during an overseas trip.
What your casting for and the type of images in your portfolio could also have an impact. I've had a number commented that they wanted to work with me because my port did not have any nudes/implied nudes in my port regardless if I do shoot that style or not.

Jan 02 13 12:50 am Link

Model

Miroslava Svoboda

Posts: 555

Seattle, Washington, US

I always just directly PM the person who put out a casting but the ones that interest me lately are rare.

Jan 02 13 12:52 am Link

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Photographer

Robb Mann

Posts: 10677

Baltimore, Maryland, US

I agree. Most people respond via PM, and not through a posting.

I had a great response to a casting call I posted in December.

Jan 02 13 01:09 am Link

Photographer

WMcK

Posts: 5286

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

SCAM Photography wrote:
I just got done looking through the casting calls posted by photographers in Illinois and out of the 25 or so ads I clicked on I saw maybe 7 people in total responded. I thinks that's pretty sad with a major city like Chicago in that search criteria.

My question is have many of you had success with posting casting calls or do you find talent using other means like Facebook and or Craigslist?

How do you know only 7 responded? Casting calls give you the option of replying by either a public or private message. I suspect there could have been more private than public replies.

Jan 02 13 02:00 am Link

Photographer

Harold Rose

Posts: 2925

Calhoun, Georgia, US

SCAM Photography wrote:
I just got done looking through the casting calls posted by photographers in Illinois and out of the 25 or so ads I clicked on I saw maybe 7 people in total responded. I thinks that's pretty sad with a major city like Chicago in that search criteria.

My question is have many of you had success with posting casting calls or do you find talent using other means like Facebook and or Craigslist?

MM has not been a good place for good models,,  but I still use it at times.. and I must say,  with some (a few)  good results..

The method set up for response seems to be the problem..

Jan 02 13 02:31 am Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 1459

Sisters, Oregon, US

WMcK wrote:

How do you know only 7 responded? Casting calls give you the option of replying by either a public or private message. I suspect there could have been more private than public replies.

This.

A number of posters have indicated that they normally just drop the model a direct message if they are interested.

That's basically what I do. 

Basically, I don't conduct business in forums.

Jan 02 13 02:48 am Link

Photographer

Photography by Riddell

Posts: 654

Hemel Hempstead, England, United Kingdom

I normally get the opposite problem. I normally get an enormous number of replies and have to spend loads of time filtering out all the unsuitables to make a shortlist to send to the client.

Paul.
www.photographybyriddell.co.uk

Jan 02 13 03:00 am Link

Artist/Painter

MainePaintah

Posts: 1782

Saco, Maine, US

I have posted only one casting call in the 2 years that I have been on MM.

Over 50 models looked at it but only 4 responded to it.

I picked one model (I know now, stupid of me, I should have picked all 4) who was the most enthusiastic!

Shoot was 3 weeks away, and e-mails went back and forth.

I get an e-mail from the model the night before the shoot. She says, "I can't make it tomorrow, I forgot I have to move"!

Jan 02 13 03:04 am Link

Photographer

Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4184

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

MainePaintah wrote:
I get an e-mail from the model the night before the shoot. She says, "I can't make it tomorrow, I forgot I have to move"!

This made me smile. The best yet ?

Jan 02 13 03:11 am Link

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sweetcheekscouture

Posts: 429

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Jan 02 13 05:54 am Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14486

Palm Beach, Florida, US

I have found MM casting calls to be pretty much useless. It is just easier and more effective to contact an agency to do a pull for me.

I have had better luck by browsing models in my area and contacting them directly.

Jan 02 13 05:58 am Link

Photographer

Glenn Hall - Fine Art

Posts: 452

Townsville, Queensland, Australia

...you should see things from my neck of the woods...not a single casting call or anything within coo-wee of the black stump. I still soldier on and pay my dues to MM wink

Jan 02 13 06:04 am Link

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Photographer

-JAY-

Posts: 6706

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I made a casting call at about midnight last night. It is now 3:00pm, and I have had three responses and nine PMs.

Jan 02 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

SCAM Photography

Posts: 958

Mansfield, Ohio, US

-JAY- wrote:
I made a casting call at about midnight last night. It is now 3:00pm, and I have had three responses and nine PMs.

I made one yesterday to see what I would get and I got 30 views and 3 pm's. I see it helps to have a clear concept of what you want to do. I would like to post on Facebook to see what type of response I would get but I don't want to have to tell half of my friends list no.

Jan 03 13 06:12 am Link