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Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Jan 07 13 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

Becks

Posts: 31801

Rochester, New York, US

Do the models can write? wink

Jan 07 13 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

PhotoSeven

Posts: 1194

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Same thought thing did I...wink

If it was written like this, I can see where the problem arises.

Jan 07 13 01:00 pm Link

Photographer

Kent Art Photography

Posts: 2929

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

Sometimes people are forced to communicate in a language that they might not be 100% proficient in.

Jan 07 13 01:01 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Always beats getting punched to the.

Jan 07 13 01:02 pm Link

Photographer

Francisco Castro

Posts: 1735

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

She's from Latvia. English obviously isn't her mother language so I would cut her some slack.

Grammar aside, she does have a point. I have had too many model (who clearly state in clear English that they don't shoot nudes) friends who start out who complained of the same thing. It's like a swarm of piranhas chomping at fresh meat.

Jan 07 13 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

Paul AI

Posts: 1046

Shawnee, Oklahoma, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

lol

Jan 07 13 01:07 pm Link

Model

Birtie

Posts: 119

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Even though many models say on their profiles that they will not do nudes, they still do with photographers of their choosing. Simply tell the photographers that you are not interested. It is not a big deal that they ask you.

Jan 07 13 01:07 pm Link

Photographer

nyk fury

Posts: 2918

Port Townsend, Washington, US

dear viktorija...some models write I DO NOT DO NUDES. DON'T ASK! right in their profile.

Jan 07 13 01:09 pm Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 6597

Elkton, Maryland, US

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Get use to it.  That is the way it is.  Likewise,  lot of models do not read either.  In fact no one read or listen any more.  smile

Jan 07 13 01:10 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 9566

Seattle, Washington, US

Kent Art Photography wrote:
Sometimes people are forced to communicate in a language that they might not be 100% proficient in.

While I don't agree with you on many posts here. But this one I do.

Those who criticize her English communication should take a look at yourselves. What does that make you?

Jan 07 13 01:16 pm Link

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Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 6326

New York, New York, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Actually, I believe English is the OP's second language, maybe even her third, fourth or fifth.  She was born in Latvia and is probably also fluent in Russian and more than likely quite passable in Finnish and possibly German and Polish.  Europeans tend to do things like that.

How's your Latvian?

Viktorija, this is a problem with no solution.  A few years ago we didn't have a Yes/No selection for Shoots Nudes.  A number of us agitated for the feature, thinking it would be easier for folks to separate out the folks who are or are not willing to shoot nudes.   But unfortunately it didn't help--If anything it made things more difficult for several reasons.  Some models answer yes but mean they will only shoot implied or topless.  Some answer no in order to keep the porn shooters away (as you've found, it doesn't work).  Some are willing to shoot nudes for pay but not for TF and some for some concepts but not for others. 

The best thing you can do if you are open to shooting with some degree of nudity depending on circumstance is probably to spell out those circumstances in detail within the body of your profile and make it clear that you require full discussion before agreeing to shooting with any degree of nudity.  Some models in that situation open a separate portfolio specifically nude work and do not link the two.  That seems to make it easier to control.

And if you are not willing to do any nude work under any circumstances, say that in your profile and block anyone who ignores it.

One good thing, this is a problem that reduces itself after the first month or two as new models come online.

Jan 07 13 01:18 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Connor Photography wrote:

Get use to it.  That is the way it is.  Likewise,  lot of models do not read either.  In fact no one read or listen any more.  smile

Jan 07 13 01:20 pm Link

Artist/Painter

MainePaintah

Posts: 1783

Saco, Maine, US

Becks wrote:
Do the llamas can write? wink

Not funny AFTER I read more in this forum about her not having English as her first language,.....but,

I laughed soooo hard I was crying after reading your post!

Best wise-ass answer in a long time!

Jan 07 13 01:24 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

I'm fluent in my mother language Latvian,  I am fluent in Russian to,
I'm sorry about my English, its My 2 y in North America, but hopefully, the message was clear, and THKS.  For some advices already.

Jan 07 13 01:26 pm Link

Hair Stylist

Platform Artist

Posts: 157

Chicago, Illinois, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

haha!

Jan 07 13 01:27 pm Link

Photographer

GM Photography

Posts: 6102

Olympia, Washington, US

You can choose to simply ignore requests for work that you do not do, or politely reply that you do not shoot nudes.  You can also "block" someone if they won't take "no" for an answer.

As evidenced by some of the responses to this thread, MM members comprise a wide spectrum of levels of maturity and professionalism.

Jan 07 13 01:35 pm Link

Photographer

Sand Angel Photography

Posts: 569

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Viktorija, you have the section checked "no" but you might do a little better to say it in your profile description. It might help a little bit. You will probably get asked anyway. Ignore them if you do.

Jan 07 13 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

R Michael Walker

Posts: 11986

Costa Mesa, California, US

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm fluent in my mother language Latvian,  I am fluent in Russian to,
I'm sorry about my English, its My 2 y in North America, but hopefully, the message was clear, and THKS.  For some advices already.

Well..I found your profile via tag you put on a art nude photographers page saying you want to work with him. To me that means you DO nudes just not with everyone. So I friended you to see if I was correct in that assumption.

Jan 07 13 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

MesmerEyes Photography

Posts: 3034

Tyler, Texas, US

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Welcome to MM!

For some of the reasons listed above photographers ask if you shoot nudes just to be sure that you don't. If they ask and you reply with a "thank you but no" and they continue to contact you about shooting nudes then I would say block them. If they only ask once and you just block them you may be excluding yourself from future clothed work. Not all photographers that shoot nudes shoot only nudes. That choice is your's and your's alone.

Good luck to you!

Jan 07 13 01:43 pm Link

Photographer

AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 12836

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I can read English and some French - not whatever that was however...

Jan 07 13 01:44 pm Link

Photographer

D S P

Posts: 510

Portland, Oregon, US

GM Photography wrote:
You can choose to simply ignore requests for work that you do not do, or politely reply that you do not shoot nudes.  You can also "block" someone if they won't take "no" for an answer.

As evidenced by some of the responses to this thread, MM members comprise a wide spectrum of levels of maturity and professionalism.

+1

Jan 07 13 01:47 pm Link

Photographer

Neil Snape

Posts: 9473

Paris, Île-de-France, France

I can only read what is written.

Otherwise I just use my eyes for those who cannot write.

Jan 07 13 01:47 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

R Michael Walker wrote:
Well..I found your profile via tag you put on a art nude photographers page saying you want to work with him. To me that means you DO nudes just not with everyone. So I friended you to see if I was correct in that assumption.

I was under the impression that ALL models from Latvia do nudes! big_smile





Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

Jan 07 13 01:51 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Sand Angel Photography wrote:
Viktorija, you have the section checked "no" but you might do a little better to say it in your profile description. It might help a little bit. You will probably get asked anyway. Ignore them if you do.

Jan 07 13 01:51 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

THKS Good point I will do some ads in my portfolio

Jan 07 13 01:52 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

R Michael Walker wrote:

Well..I found your profile via tag you put on a art nude photographers page saying you want to work with him. To me that means you DO nudes just not with everyone. So I friended you to see if I was correct in that assumption.

Jan 07 13 01:54 pm Link

Photographer

Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6290

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
do the photographers can read?

Yes, off course! Photographers do read!

Ignore those who will trick or scam you.

Careful you must be, not only here, but in all sites.

.

Jan 07 13 01:54 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Almost like all of you,  he had some nudes. but not only nudes in his PF.
If we are speaking about the same, photographer. I loved the way how he captured  another ones. And nudes was tasteful.
To work with him didn't mean to work nude smile

Jan 07 13 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

DAN CRUIKSHANK

Posts: 1786

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Did you read my profile before tagging me? I would be happy to work with you, but as my profile says, I am currently working on a nude project.

Of course you have the right to pursue any project you desire. If you are interested in shooting nudes with one photographer but not another that is 100% acceptable smile

You will get tons of offers from every type of photographer. Say no when you want to say no, it's really that simple.

Jan 07 13 02:02 pm Link

Model

Julia Francesca

Posts: 2365

Maumee, Ohio, US

english isn't her first language, obviously ya'll didn't read her profile lol.

Jan 07 13 02:03 pm Link

Photographer

moving pictures

Posts: 664

Los Angeles, California, US

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
I'm new here, and just wondering did the photographers are able to read profile of models.
After I get posted in MM I got invited to fiends or shots as nude!!! (tons of invites)
As far  I have seen only some nude shots are tasteful, but the tons of them are cheap.
Its in my profile no nude?
Please shear some ideas.
Models, how u surviving thru this?

Change your profile text from:

"
Born in Latvia ,graduated fashion design colleague in Riga.
I had 2 shoots in Europe, and 1 in Canada,
The goals-to develop my skills and portfolio.
"

to...

"
Born in Latvia ,graduated fashion design colleague in Riga.
I had 2 shoots in Europe, and 1 in Canada,
The goals-to develop my skills and portfolio.
I will under no condition and with no photographer, ever shoot nudes."

That should stop most of the nude questions, but not all.  Other than that, get used to it.

Jan 07 13 02:05 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Did you read my profile before tagging me? I would be happy to work with you, but as my profile says, I am currently working on a nude project.

Of course you have the right to pursue any project you desire. If you are interested in shooting nudes with one photographer but not another that is 100% acceptable smile

You will get tons of offers from every type of photographer. Say no when you want to say no, it's really that simple.

Jan 07 13 02:08 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Its not only one way in life,
I'm thinking about probably Yours next project.
Soon or later You will have one, RIGHT?
As I told I like your shots.

Jan 07 13 02:10 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

moving pictures wrote:

Change your profile text from:

"
Born in Latvia ,graduated fashion design colleague in Riga.
I had 2 shoots in Europe, and 1 in Canada,
The goals-to develop my skills and portfolio.
"

to...

"
Born in Latvia ,graduated fashion design colleague in Riga.
I had 2 shoots in Europe, and 1 in Canada,
The goals-to develop my skills and portfolio.
I will under no condition and with no photographer, ever shoot nudes."

That should stop most of the nude questions, but not all.  Other than that, get used to it.

Jan 07 13 02:11 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Just copy and paste:)
To avoid any misunderstanding in En smile

Jan 07 13 02:12 pm Link

Photographer

DAN CRUIKSHANK

Posts: 1786

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Viktorija Sketika wrote:
Its not only one way in life,
I'm thinking about probably Yours next project.
Soon or later You will have one, RIGHT?
As I told I like your shots.

That's cool. I'm glad you like my work smile
Add no nudes in your profile, and politely turn down any nude offers. That's really all you can do. I turn down models asking for clothed shoots, not a big deal.

Jan 07 13 02:14 pm Link

Model

Viktorija Sketika

Posts: 19

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

THKS for all advices, I just realize,
I made Tornado in tee cap smile

Jan 07 13 02:16 pm Link

Photographer

CDP Photo

Posts: 2096

Brooklyn, New York, US

Becks wrote:
Do the models can write? wink

Dad no nice. Some people are multi-lingual and may be communicating in a language that is not their own or their first. I give these people credit because I know so many that cannot communicate in the one language they have.

Jan 07 13 02:19 pm Link

Photographer

Creative Image

Posts: 1327

Avon, Connecticut, US

Has anyone here that has been making fun of her ever lived in a country that does not have English as a native language?  I have.  Germany.  And no one EVER made fun of me other than maybe a chuckle from someone I knew well.  On the contrary, people were always helpful, correcting me in very gentle ways.

But that's this forum: not pictures or it didn't happen, but English or you're stupid. 

Thanks to those who really helped her.

Edit:  Oh, and I would ad that specking a language not your native one, even on an okay level, is not the same as writing it.  That's much tougher

Jan 07 13 02:23 pm Link