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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

The post was an obvious rant. That is all it was. I am sorry for getting people involved. I will not rant again. When someone says something I don't like I will ignore it.

Jan 13 13 10:46 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 33594

Los Angeles, California, US

Some forums are crankier than others.

Actually most are pretty cranky.

Jan 13 13 10:48 pm Link

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John M Hoyt

Posts: 347

Greenville, South Carolina, US

Where do you get off coming to MM and posting a rant like this? Don't you know, only seasoned professionals can rant like that?

wink

Jan 13 13 10:53 pm Link

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jesse paulk

Posts: 3712

Phoenix, Arizona, US

you have a sign on your back. and posts like this are not helping.

Jan 13 13 10:55 pm Link

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John M Hoyt

Posts: 347

Greenville, South Carolina, US

Maybe it's because your profile says you shoot nudes, yet your port is devoid of them. Heh

Jan 13 13 10:56 pm Link

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Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6292

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

What sort of attack?

There are moderators to approach on this site for your complaints.

Posting this sort of thread will only draw more attackers to you like honey to a bee.

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Jan 13 13 11:02 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

jesse paulk wrote:
you have a sign on your back. and posts like this are not helping.

Why do I have that sign on my back? Why can't I post what I want to post. Why the hell does it matter?

Jan 13 13 11:02 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

John M Hoyt wrote:
Maybe it's because your profile says you shoot nudes, yet your port is devoid of them. Heh

Like I said I am just starting out. I am in the process of getting photos done.

Jan 13 13 11:02 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 22390

New York, New York, US

John M Hoyt wrote:
Where do you get off coming to MM and posting a rant like this? Don't you know, only seasoned professionals can rant like that?

wink

Seasoned professionals do not rant like that!

Jan 13 13 11:04 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:
What sort of attack?

There are moderators to approach on this site for your complaints.

Posting this sort of thread will only draw more attackers to you like honey to a bee.

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According to everyone "It's not an attack, its an opinion." Well I have an opinion too. All of you crabby people need to take a happy pill once in a while and realize no one is perfect. Everyone has flaws, sorry mine seem to bother so many people.

Jan 13 13 11:04 pm Link

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Andialu

Posts: 14029

San Pedro, California, US

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Jan 13 13 11:06 pm Link

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allison mindy

Posts: 1495

New York, New York, US

Honestly you should probably stay out of the forums if you don't have thick enough skin to wade through all the bs. People can be pretty big assholes on here. It's sad, but in truth the world if full of assholes.

Edit: Not to say that there aren't a bunch of wonderful people on here who truly want to help, but you'll run into trolls if you like to play in the forums. You can accept the fact or choose not to participate. You aren't going to change anything by creating a post like this.

Jan 13 13 11:06 pm Link

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allison mindy

Posts: 1495

New York, New York, US

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Jan 13 13 11:08 pm Link

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marce fay

Posts: 855

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

alot on here can't determine what or take an opinion without finding a negative aspect to it. One sentence can be read in many ways, and a lot it is read one way, and then the ire begins.

Jan 13 13 11:08 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

allison mindy wrote:
Honestly you should probably stay out of the forums if you don't have thick enough skin to wade through all the bs. People can be pretty big assholes on here. It's sad, but in truth the world if full of assholes.

I guess that is the truth there. All I want is advice not you suck at this, and you will never be as good as so and so. I don't care about that crap.

Jan 13 13 11:08 pm Link

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Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6292

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Misty Matthews wrote:
According to everyone "It's not an attack, its an opinion." Well I have an opinion too. All of you crabby people need to take a happy pill once in a while and realize no one is perfect. Everyone has flaws, sorry mine seem to bother so many people.

Aah! It is a clash of opinions then... not really an attack.

Be confident and hold your head up, and engage in the skirmish then...

It will only be an attack if you give up and fall down...

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Jan 13 13 11:08 pm Link

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allison mindy

Posts: 1495

New York, New York, US

Misty Matthews wrote:
I guess that is the truth there. All I want is advice not you suck at this, and you will never be as good as so and so. I don't care about that crap.

Yea that's totally understandable, and I can appreciate that.

Jan 13 13 11:09 pm Link

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Frances Jewel

Posts: 9149

Dayton, Ohio, US

If you can't take criticism and critique, you shouldn't be involved in the hobby that you are. Art is all about giving and taking opinions and learning from them. You have been here almost a year, have yet to produce any new work, besides self shots, and you haven't taken any of the advice that has been given you.


So ya, you are gonna catch attitude. People only offer their advice for so long before they get tired of being asked.


http://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?tex … rt_order=0 

A year of asking critique and telling everyone they are wrong.

Jan 13 13 11:10 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:

Aah! It is a clash of opinions then... not really an attack.

Be confident and hold your head up, and engage in the skirmish then...

It will only be an attack if you give up and fall down...

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I should post the link to the forum I am ranting about. It was a post I posted from my retouching profile, and I asked a question and went on to be attacked because I am a slow learner and have trouble understanding Photoshop.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=875200
I am MMRetoucher

Jan 13 13 11:12 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Frances Jewel wrote:
If you can't take criticism and critique, you shouldn't be involved in the hobby that you are. Art is all about giving and taking opinions and learning from them. You have been here almost a year, have yet to produce any new work, besides self shots, and you haven't taken any of the advice that has been given you.


So ya, you are gonna catch attitude. People only offer their advice for so long before they get tired of being asked.

Unless you want to give my husband a job, or pay me so I can have gas money and clothes to go and get more photos, then don't assume you know what's going on.

My damned photos are not self taken, wow anyone can see that.

Jan 13 13 11:14 pm Link

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Frances Jewel

Posts: 9149

Dayton, Ohio, US

Misty Matthews wrote:

Unless you want to give my husband a job, or pay me so I can have gas money and clothes to go and get more photos, then don't assume you know what's going on.

My damned photos are not self taken, wow anyone can see that.

Self taken can be with a timer. If you can't even afford to get to shoots, this conversation is pointless. Quit making excuses. Either model, or don't.

Jan 13 13 11:16 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 22390

New York, New York, US

Misty Matthews wrote:

I should post the link to the forum I am ranting about. It was a post I posted from my retouching profile, and I asked a question and went on to be attacked because I am a slow learner and have trouble understanding Photoshop.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=875200
I am MMRetoucher

Without reading the thread... I can tell you that you have to be careful how you approach a bunch of professionals in a tightly fought over market...

If you appear less than knowledgeable, than it's being expected by a professional... or semi-professional... they will rip you apart.

Maybe I am wrong, and I am too tired to read up on that thread (my apologies), but if I am right, I suggest to eat the humble pie and reflect on what the people are saying to you and go back to learn and understand the basics if you want to enter the professional realm.

Jan 13 13 11:17 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 22390

New York, New York, US

Misty Matthews wrote:
My damned photos are not self taken, wow anyone can see that.

My avatar photo is self taken, and so is this, during Hurricane Sandy:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 905505.jpg

But that's not the point... the photos you have displayed do not reflect skills of an actual photographer... and no, you can not tell that those are not self taken.

However, your reaction shows that you are too sensitive to criticism... and maybe that's the way how the arguments are ending up in the Retoucher's forum?!

Jan 13 13 11:22 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Frances Jewel wrote:

Self taken can be with a timer. If you can't even afford to get to shoots, this conversation is pointless. Quit making excuses. Either model, or don't.

They are not taken with a timer ok. Sorry to burst your bubble.
How is not being able to afford it an excuse? This "profession" or hobby requires money and when you just don't have it, it really isn't an excuse.

Jan 13 13 11:22 pm Link

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Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6292

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Misty Matthews wrote:
"Photoshop is not the only program out there.
I am sorry if I can't afford Photoshop and all the thousands of extra's it has.
I am sorry if I can't understand Photoshop.

Again I never said I didn't want to learn. I just don't have the tools for that at the moment."

---from your other "thread".

Hey good news! Photoshop Elements version 9 is only about a $100! No kidding.

Also, there's some good magazines that deal on retouching for about $12.95.

Those two aren't much of a big mountain. And PSE works on average computers.

Now that's a sort of a positive goal to take, ain't it? borat

All the best to you.

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Jan 13 13 11:24 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

udor wrote:

My avatar photo is self taken, and so is this, during Hurricane Sandy:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … 905505.jpg

But that's not the point... the photos you have displayed do not reflect skills of an actual photographer... and no, you can not tell that those are not self taken.

However, your reaction shows that you are too sensitive to criticism... and maybe that's the way how the arguments are ending up in the Retoucher's forum?!

Honestly I am not too sensitive, I am just sick of it. I am more pissed then anything. I have a thick skin and have had to most of my life. I just get mad and let loose. That's all. My photos were taken by my husband not a professional. I had to put pics on here to join.

Jan 13 13 11:25 pm Link

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Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

I think the first thing you need to do is stop calling yourself "model mayhem retoucher."

I realize mmretoucher may refer to your initials, but your URL has "model mayhem" in the name, not your name.

You are in serious violation of trademark and could find yourself in deep water.

Jan 13 13 11:26 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:

---from your other "thread".

Hey good news! Photoshop Elements version 9 is only about a $100! No kidding.

Also, there's some good magazines that deal on retouching for about $12.95.

Those two aren't much of a big mountain. And PSE works on average computers.

Now that's a sort of positive goal to take, ain't it? borat

All the best to you.

.

Wow if I had the $100 I would jump right on it. Sounds like a good deal.

Jan 13 13 11:26 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Sophistocles wrote:
I think the first thing you need to do is stop calling yourself "model mayhem retoucher."

I realize mmretoucher may refer to your initials, but your URL has "model mayhem" in the name, not your name.

You are in serious violation of trademark and could find yourself in deep water.

I didn't think about that! Wow I need to fix that. Thanks for telling me. It was the only thing I could think of.

Jan 13 13 11:27 pm Link

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Frances Jewel

Posts: 9149

Dayton, Ohio, US

Misty Matthews wrote:

They are not taken with a timer ok. Sorry to burst your bubble.
How is not being able to afford it an excuse? This "profession" or hobby requires money and when you just don't have it, it really isn't an excuse.

If someone can't afford the hobby, they don't participate in the hobby. How are you sitting here bickering with me about how you can't even get to a shoot and it's not your fault? lmao. People aren't going to roll out the red carpet for you, you have to work for it. Many models, like myself, are just hobbiest. But, we spend money on this hobby. Hair, MU, clothing, transportation, manicures, daily care of our selves. It is a pay to play game, just the way it is.

Jan 13 13 11:28 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Sophistocles wrote:
I think the first thing you need to do is stop calling yourself "model mayhem retoucher."

I realize mmretoucher may refer to your initials, but your URL has "model mayhem" in the name, not your name.

You are in serious violation of trademark and could find yourself in deep water.

Oh wait, I logged into my retouch profile and my URL is http://www.modelmayhem.com/MMRetoucher89

Where does it say model mayhem in my name??

Jan 13 13 11:29 pm Link

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Monad Studios

Posts: 9798

Santa Rosa, California, US

Misty Matthews wrote:

I should post the link to the forum I am ranting about. It was a post I posted from my retouching profile, and I asked a question and went on to be attacked because I am a slow learner and have trouble understanding Photoshop.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=875200
I am MMRetoucher

Yeah, there was some unnecessary rudeness in there.  But most of what was written to you was just bluntly stated, not attacking.  The bits of rudeness were actually pretty mild compared to a lot of what goes on in these forums.

Jan 13 13 11:29 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Frances Jewel wrote:

If someone can't afford the hobby, they don't participate in the hobby. How are you sitting here bickering with me about how you can't even get to a shoot and it's not your fault? lmao. People aren't going to roll out the red carpet for you, you have to work for it. Many models, like myself, are just hobbiest. But, we spend money on this hobby. Hair, MU, clothing, transportation, manicures, daily care of our selves. It is a pay to play game, just the way it is.

Then I guess I am just to poor to afford it.

Jan 13 13 11:30 pm Link

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Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6292

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Whatever happens...

Do Not Let Go of your name MMRetoucher.

Do not change it.

That is a very nice name indeed!

Hold on to that name.

.

Jan 13 13 11:33 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 22390

New York, New York, US

Misty Matthews wrote:

Wow if I had the $100 I would jump right on it. Sounds like a good deal.

Check this out:

http://www.acdsee.com/en/products/acdsee-pro-6

It's an awesome software, and they have special offers at holiday times... I wouldn't be surprised if they had the next one around Valentines.

It's usually $69 when they run a special... you can also have a 30 free trial... it's less than photoshop, does a lot of retouching and takes less space and processing power.

I am using it for years... and the current version, just came out and is super powerful!

Jan 13 13 11:33 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:
Whatever happens...

Do Not Let Go of your name MMRetoucher.

Do not change it.

That is a very nice name indeed!

Hold on to that name.

.

Thanks so much. I do appreciate it.

Jan 13 13 11:34 pm Link

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Misty Matthews

Posts: 286

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

udor wrote:

Check this out:

http://www.acdsee.com/en/products/acdsee-pro-6

It's an awesome software, and they have special offers at holiday times... I wouldn't be surprised if they had the next one around Valentines.

It's usually $69 when they run a special... you can also have a 30 free trial... it's less than photoshop, does a lot of retouching and takes less space and processing power.

I am using it for years... and the current version, just came out and is super powerful!

Thanks very much, I am going to check it out.

Jan 13 13 11:35 pm Link

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Jennifer Barker

Posts: 8010

Houston, Arkansas, US

Wow  hmm

Jan 13 13 11:38 pm Link

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sweet gamine

Posts: 400

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Misty Matthews wrote:
Oh wait, I logged into my retouch profile and my URL is http://www.modelmayhem.com/MMRetoucher89

Where does it say model mayhem in my name??

Hi Misty, it's your personal website that contains the Model Mayhem name.

Jan 13 13 11:41 pm Link

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Shandra Stark

Posts: 13612

Los Angeles, California, US

Misty Matthews wrote:
Then I guess I am just to poor to afford it.

Life is like that, sometimes.  If you really want it, you'll make it happen.

Can't drive?  Want an escort?

Clear out space in your house, paint the walls matte white- invite photographers to shoot on your turf.  Lounge around in your jammie-jams and then roll out of bed and shoot.  Sweet.

Whatever it takes.  I had a networking dinner for models last night.  I found out it would take me four buses to get there, and it'd take an hour and a half.  Only an hour walk.

I walked.

Get shit done and stop making excuses.  Do, or do not.

Jan 13 13 11:43 pm Link