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aliceelou012

Posts: 24

London, England, United Kingdom

Hello everyone :-)

I joined model mayhem for fun, hoping to find like minded creative people in my area and to indulge in my love of photography. My look isn't exactly 'model material', I just like the production and effect of successful images.

However, it seems that the majority of casting calls you need to be at least 5'6 in height and I am a mere 5'3.


Can anyone give me any advice based on past experiences etc? I would love to be tall!

Many thanks,

Alice

Jan 27 13 10:00 am Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22618

Salem, Oregon, US

for hobby modeling does it make a difference? i'll shoot them any size. but i'm not getting paid by an end client. just doing it for fun and to learn.

for glamour it's actually easier to shoot a short model than a tall one.

if someone is supposed to wear clothes that only come in certain sizes then i can see how it might be an issue.

Jan 27 13 10:04 am Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

www.newmodels.com/height.html

At 5'3" even if you have a face like an angel your options are pretty much limited to modelling for fun, or shooting nudes/glamour if you want to get paid.






Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

Jan 27 13 10:13 am Link

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Johnnie Faye

Posts: 1

Newport Beach, California, US

I have been modeling professionally for quite some time now. It does matter when you are trying to be on runway and shoot for clothing brands. But that stuff come later in the game. For you, I would say don't worry about it! Get comfortable in your own skin. Chances are 95%_ of photographers that shoot you won't mind. My lovely fiend Oktober is only 5'5 and has been featured in vogue multiple time. You know why? Because she doesn't let it hold her back. That girl can move! That's what it's all about, believing in yourself. And profecting your art, regardless of what they tell you. I am 5'10 and you are 5'3. We are obviously not the same, so stop putting yourself in the same category. You can be successful in many ways in this industry. Just realize you have a unique potential! It may not be what a taller girl is doing but you can still be successful. Swim suit baby girl! Or anything along those lines. Be sexy! They will love it

J5

Jan 27 13 10:15 am Link

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Damianne

Posts: 15975

Austin, Texas, US

It REALLY is important.

However, nothing is stopping you from having fun and making pretty pictures, or doing freelance modelling, or getting into acting.

But no, you're never going to be on the cover of Vogue just for modelling. You'll need to excel in some other way first smile

Jan 27 13 10:56 am Link

Photographer

Thomas Van Dyke

Posts: 1774

Washington, District of Columbia, US

aliceelou012 wrote:
How important is height in modelling REALLY?
Alice

Alice, if the assignment is fashion then the clothing designer's needs must be meet... they typically create garments for 5'9" talent in a size 0 or 2 at max (those are US not UK sizes and not vanity sizing which makes the size thing such a challenge anymore)

this has absolutely little to do with anything else...  the sizing is by industry standards and tradition...

For runway, it's even taller... the reason is obvious... you need to tower above inorder to create a visual narrative which emotes a truly compelling runway fashion aesthetic…

In both scenarios editorial facial features are germane to one's desirability...

In your case beauty genre is an excellent option to focus on... while critiques are not allowed in this forum I will say that one with alluring eyes and a gorgeous heart shape face has much potential in beauty...

Since you are an emerging jewelry designer you can bring that gift to the image equation... oft times on beauty narratives it is the accent accessories that take the visual statement over the top...

Albeit as mentioned above... in a very competitive industry, agencies are likely looking for talent that can cover the broadest array of assignments... it cost in resources to keep talent on an agency's board... they are looking for the maximum return on their investment...  Still keep in mind that there are many in the industry not on agency boards who still garner assignments through self promotion... just not for large budget shoots which nearly always rely on agency talent...

all the best on your journey...

Jan 27 13 11:09 am Link

Photographer

Yan Tan Tethera

Posts: 4184

Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom

-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
www.newmodels.com/height.html

At 5'3" even if you have a face like an angel your options are pretty much limited to modelling for fun, or shooting nudes/glamour if you want


Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

And the need for the llama herder is the sting in the tail.

Jan 27 13 11:29 am Link

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B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Thomas Van Dyke wrote:
In your case beauty genre is an excellent option to focus on...

For fun.

Sadly for the OP and other pretty but short girls like her, there really is no market for a 5'3" "beauty model" hmm




Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Jan 27 13 11:33 am Link

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M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

aliceelou012 wrote:
However, it seems that the majority of casting calls you need to be at least 5'6 in height and I am a mere 5'3.

That surprises me. I thought the only requirements were nudity and cup-size on MM.

Jan 27 13 11:38 am Link

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MJ Images

Posts: 2907

Nashville, Tennessee, US

You are perfect just like you are, Alice.  There is nothing wrong with your height.  You're a beautiful girl.  Celebrate that, keep your positive outlook, and great things will come to you.

Mike

Jan 27 13 11:50 am Link

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M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

MJ Images wrote:
You are perfect just like you are, Alice.  There is nothing wrong with your height.  You're a beautiful girl.  Celebrate that, keep your positive outlook, and great things will come to you.

Mike

Signed,

Stuart Smalley

Jan 27 13 11:55 am Link

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Dan OMell

Posts: 1335

Ufa, Bashkortostan, Russia

depends on the definition of "modeling".
there are many markets and niches for all sizes and shapes.
why "modeling" immediately triggers the most popular assumption of a 2-3 meters tall human coat-hanger?
some models are specialized in advertizement of the skin, hair or body parts only.
some models are seniors.

not to mention the really tiny models 3smile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_building
http://completeall.com/pictures/enormus-city-model/2.jpg

Jan 27 13 12:01 pm Link

Model

aliceelou012

Posts: 24

London, England, United Kingdom

Dan OMell wrote:
depends on the definition of "modeling".
there are many markets and niches for all sizes and shapes.
why listening "modeling" everybody immediately assumes some the 2-3 meters tall human coat-hangers? some models advertize their skin, hair or body parts only.
some models are seniors.

not to mention the really tiny models 3smile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_building
http://completeall.com/pictures/enormus-city-model/2.jpg

Yes yes, very good, very good

Jan 27 13 12:03 pm Link

Model

aliceelou012

Posts: 24

London, England, United Kingdom

Michael Pandolfo wrote:

Signed,

Stuart Smalley

Well I like your outlook, haha..

Jan 27 13 12:04 pm Link

Photographer

Escalante

Posts: 5367

Chicago, Illinois, US

But then again look at the people giving you the advice.
Taking advice from people who are making Assumptions as to how the industry actualy works , isn't the way to run a business .

   www.newmodels.com

   except for a couple of people here Like Steven (who actualy shoots for agencies ) , the others are pretty much spewing bullshit.

You are 17 yr old girl who is asking about MAINSTREAM modeling NOT tits & ass not Nudes , not porn , fetish etc. (please correct me if I am wrong) so any advice NOT pertaining to those mainstream genres of modeling is invalid here

Jan 27 13 01:06 pm Link

Model

Alivia Autumn

Posts: 610

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

It's very important.  Many of the reasons have already been covered.  Just like professional athletes having specific physical requirements to maintain.  And even dancers.  But if you are in it for the arts then go with it.  There are plenty of people that will work with you and create amazing images.

Why don't you look into acting?

Figure out what is appealing about it.  If it's the images keep going for it.  If it's for money/career you might make some profit shooting with photographers trying to build their ports but nothing substantial.

Jan 27 13 01:20 pm Link

Photographer

F O R B E S

Posts: 440

New York, New York, US

Luckily for you, you're a beautiful woman, therefore you can do lots of beauty and glamor shots. As far as runway or editorials etc...I don't think you'll find any luck in those areas. Either way, keep having fun with what you're doing. Don't let your height stop you from having fun!

Jan 27 13 05:46 pm Link

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angel emily

Posts: 1020

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Recognize that you will not do mainstream fashion/commercial modeling at 5'3", but other types of modeling are open to you, and others will be open to you (if you so choose) once you are older.

Jan 27 13 05:49 pm Link

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Caveman Creations

Posts: 580

Fort Worth, Texas, US

Right now, I am figuring out how to accomplish a project. In the planning stages if you will. I will need one model to tower over another one, but both need to be on an equal scale as far as looks goes. How important is height? I need one model at or around 5'10", to tower over the 5'3" model, or the entire project will not work. This is not how it normally goes but, in this particular instance, height is paramount. These two ladies have to be disproportionate, yet equal (to a point).

Does that mean you will get no success what so ever? That depends on you. Work hard toward your goal, but remember, agency standards are there for a reason.

Jan 27 13 06:01 pm Link

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EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3377

Tempe, Arizona, US

-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
www.newmodels.com/height.html

At 5'3" even if you have a face like an angel your options are pretty much limited to modelling for fun, or shooting nudes/glamour if you want to get paid.






Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com

+1

Jan 27 13 10:08 pm Link

Model

aliceelou012

Posts: 24

London, England, United Kingdom

Escalante wrote:
But then again look at the people giving you the advice.
Taking advice from people who are making Assumptions as to how the industry actualy works , isn't the way to run a business .

   www.newmodels.com

   except for a couple of people here Like Steven (who actualy shoots for agencies ) , the others are pretty much spewing bullshit.

You are 17 yr old girl who is asking about MAINSTREAM modeling NOT tits & ass not Nudes , not porn , fetish etc. (please correct me if I am wrong) so any advice NOT pertaining to those mainstream genres of modeling is invalid here

You're so right. And no I am most certainly not interested in glamour/fetish/nudes I would quit this site altogether if that's what I had to succumb to. Glamour is a different type of modelling altogether, I see it more as suggestive than art. It may be right for others but it goes against my morals and I don't want to give that impression.

Jan 28 13 12:00 pm Link

Model

Kimberly Rose2687

Posts: 11

Watertown, Wisconsin, US

I pretty much asked the same question on here not too long ago and got some very good info from some photographers and shorter/petite models. It gave me some hope and I wish you luck in your modeling endeavours. I'm having fun building up my port and I also don't feel the need to take my clothes off to be successful!:-) Keep on rocking it shorty style!;-)

Jan 28 13 07:46 pm Link

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Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5083

Catskill, New York, US

Alice, in fashion height is very important for a few reasons already mentioned.

Just to be clear there is no specific look that makes anyone "model material" it's more about performance than it is looks. Can you pose without direction, can you express, can you deliver emotion on demand, etc

There are so many genera of modeling looks as we think of them play a very small role in the overall industry. An extreme example is a foot or shoe model. When you say "model" to people they automatically think runway but there are so many other types of models.

If you have a beautiful or unique look then you may be able to do some glamor work, a hair model or something like that. I think you may be mislead about what glamor modeling is. But if your morals go against glamor then modeling all together probably isn't for you.

Typically a glamor shot would look something like this form your portfolio
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/29997944


I guess the point is if you want to be in the industry you just have to find the type of work you're suited for and chase it. It's a cut throat industry and you need to have thick skin.

Work hard, see what works for you but most of all, have fun. It's very difficult to make a living doing this work.

Jan 29 13 08:54 am Link

Photographer

JOEL McDONALD

Posts: 608

Portland, Oregon, US

I have found in the past that some commercial clients actually liked a smaller model so as to make their product appear larger in an ad.

A well proportioned model 5'3"-5'5" holding or standing with a product will make that product appear larger than a model that's 5'8"-5'10".

This was especially true in my furniture and car ads. A model your height standing next to or sitting in a car will make that car look roomier and/or larger than a tall model would.

There's also specialty (parts) modeling; hands, feet, face, etc.

This does not often apply to Fashion though. There the taller the model the more the clothing is shown.

Jan 30 13 04:04 am Link