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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

I did a favour for a friend the other day and took some images on a white background,

After reviewing the the image i notice that there was a patch of only what i can describe as a white haze...

not over the whole image but a small section a bit like a small patch of fog, the image behind it was discoloured slightly and not as sharp as the rest, its not the camera as some of the images dont have it

its never happened before and just wondered if any other photographers have experianced it, I am still learning and would welcome any guidance/advice

any adeas??

Jan 30 13 04:16 am Link

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David Parsons

Posts: 972

Quincy, Massachusetts, US

It's probably lens flare.  Can you post the picture and list the equipment you used and how your lights were setup?

Jan 30 13 04:21 am Link

Photographer

JJohnF

Posts: 8

Sheffield, England, United Kingdom

Sounds like flare to me! Any chance of seeing the image?

Jan 30 13 04:23 am Link

Photographer

Syosset Studio

Posts: 296

Syosset, New York, US

LPF Photography wrote:
any adeas?

Here are some:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les … 56&bih=826

Jan 30 13 04:43 am Link

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Maxximages

Posts: 2045

Los Angeles, California, US

Undercover Nudes wrote:

Here are some:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les … 56&bih=826

your link goes to a Google search for adea??

It is probably lens flair I get it on an older nikon lens when shooting in the studio

Jan 30 13 05:46 am Link

Photographer

LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

David Parsons wrote:
list the equipment you used and how your lights were setup?

Mobile studio,

2 Elinchrom D-Lite 2's lighting backdrop
2 Elinchrom D-Lite 4's (to-go (1.5 metre  away at 45 degrees of subject) either side
Paper backdrop
Camera is a Nikon D800 using a Nikkor 24-70mm f2.8 lens
100 ISO, F8-11, 1/160

Jan 30 13 05:47 am Link

Photographer

LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

David Parsons wrote:
Can you post the picture

JJohnF wrote:
Sounds like flare to me! Any chance of seeing the image?

will try and get some up tonight, I never have had any issues with it before, normally use a d7000 with the F2.8

but have recently bought the D800 and this was the first studio shoot with it, as use that as my main for weddings

Jan 30 13 05:52 am Link

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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

having looked at various photos yes it is indeed lens flare

When doing a Studio style shoot, how would one avoid flare, I mean i moved all over to try and avoid it, no matter what i did the flare was there on most of the images

sorry to sound such a noob but as I said, I am still learning :S

Jan 30 13 06:18 am Link

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JJohnF

Posts: 8

Sheffield, England, United Kingdom

Keep your hood on! You're probably battling with a lot of reflective surfaces too, so you might need to flag your lights. And don't point them at your lens wink

Jan 30 13 07:27 am Link

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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

JJohnF wrote:
Keep your hood on! You're probably battling with a lot of reflective surfaces too, so you might need to flag your lights. And don't point them at your lens wink

I was using the hood, 2 of the lights where lighting the subject and the other 2 the backdrop, none of the lamps were pointing directly at the camera,

could it have been the reflection off the white backdrop, the flare was always on the camera left? i suppose dropping the backlights down a stop or 2 would have helped?

Jan 30 13 02:41 pm Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 36719

Columbus, Ohio, US

This is simple.....they MUST be ghostly spiritual orbs. wink

Jan 30 13 02:46 pm Link

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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

Small Fruit Pits wrote:
This is simple.....they MUST be ghostly spiritual orbs. wink

O.o

Jan 30 13 03:58 pm Link

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Toto Photo

Posts: 2792

Belmont, California, US

LPF Photography wrote:

I was using the hood, 2 of the lights where lighting the subject and the other 2 the backdrop, none of the lamps were pointing directly at the camera,

could it have been the reflection off the white backdrop, the flare was always on the camera left? i suppose dropping the backlights down a stop or 2 would have helped?

Yes, if the angle at which the strobes hit the backdrop equals the angle from that strike-point to your lens you will get flare.

Jan 30 13 04:02 pm Link

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David Parsons

Posts: 972

Quincy, Massachusetts, US

LPF Photography wrote:
could it have been the reflection off the white backdrop, the flare was always on the camera left? i suppose dropping the backlights down a stop or 2 would have helped?

Likely.  You don't need to nuke the backdrop, just blow it out.  Get it bright enough and it becomes a light source that is going directly into the lens.

Jan 30 13 06:23 pm Link

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EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3377

Tempe, Arizona, US

Small Fruit Pits wrote:
This is simple.....they MUST be ghostly spiritual orbs. wink

That's what I was thinking!  Flare?  Flairs?  Ghosts I say!!

Jan 30 13 08:50 pm Link

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HO Photo

Posts: 517

Los Angeles, California, US

Some lenses are more prone to flare than others. I've never had this problem shooting with a blown white background.  :shrug:

Jan 30 13 09:32 pm Link

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Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6289

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Were you using a UV filter over the front element?

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Jan 31 13 02:50 am Link

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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

Raoul Isidro Images wrote:
Were you using a UV filter over the front element?

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yes a Pro1 UV filter

Jan 31 13 09:20 am Link

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 6988

Eugene, Oregon, US

If the light on the background is brighter than 1 stop over the main lights you can get flare.

The actual figure will change with the lens - some lens will just not flare and some will flare just for the fun of it.

A bellows lens shade will help a lot over a regular lens shade.

Filters - some flare more than others.

Zooms will flare more than primes.   

Older lens will tend to flare more than new multi-coated special glass ones.

The larger the front on a lens - more flare.

The more elements -

The wider the angle of a lens - more flare.

sorry to bore everyone

Jan 31 13 05:07 pm Link

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Jordan L Duncan

Posts: 207

Jacksonville, Florida, US

LPF Photography wrote:
I did a favour for a friend the other day and took some images on a white background,

After reviewing the the image i notice that there was a patch of only what i can describe as a white haze...

not over the whole image but a small section a bit like a small patch of fog, the image behind it was discoloured slightly and not as sharp as the rest, its not the camera as some of the images dont have it

its never happened before and just wondered if any other photographers have experianced it, I am still learning and would welcome any guidance/advice

any adeas??

Call Ghost Hunters. Your studio is haunted.

Jan 31 13 08:07 pm Link

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LPF Photography

Posts: 12

Woking-Byfleet, England, United Kingdom

lol

Feb 01 13 10:03 am Link