I'm not going to stop modeling because of what friends/family think but who also gets the annoying questions? Some of them ask my other relatives things like "Why does she do modeling? Isn't that unsafe? What happens with the photos?" Anyone else get similar eyebrows up responses about their modeling? When I say I do modeling as a hobby, they think it's because I like pictures of myself. Modeling isn't that different from other hobbies. People can enjoy the art of modeling, not necessarily because they like photos of themselves...seems silly.
Jan 31 13 09:27 am Link
my family thinks i shoot porn. and they haven't even seen my zivity sets!
to be fair there have been some bad outcomes with modeling and photography and they get splattered all over the news. but i think those are very exceptional circumstances. plus it seems like any time there's a model and photographer in a tv show something bad happens.
just forge ahead and do it for yourself. it's your life after all.
Jan 31 13 09:32 am Link
Great points. My mom was saying she knew friends in those extraordinary circumstances, so I can understand her somewhat skewed view of modeling. I told her I know how to keep myself safe (checking references, meeting before a shoot to chat etc) and those sort of incidents are a very small minority of cases.
Jan 31 13 09:48 am Link
well i think there's a difference between getting hit on by the photographer and ending up in a dumpster. i have been told about one rape on a bondage shoot.
there's a female model/photographer on trial right now for killing her boyfriend in the most brutal way (and taking pictures). they had a program about it on tv. she claims she's a victim of abuse. it must have been some abuse to justify what she did to that poor bastard. i mean rihanna let chris brown live ...
anyway, people aren't wrong to worry. but hysteria never helps anything. and people have died staying in bed on a sunday when a drunk driver crashed into their house or a tree fell on them.
Jan 31 13 09:54 am Link
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
I'll be honest; it can be annoying/embarrassing. My dad used to tell a photographer I used to work with on a weekly or so basis that he should be paying me, because I'd "been modeling long enough to be eligible to earn something from it." (The photographer and I had a TF agreement; I got more current images that, at the time, I desperately needed, and he got to learn from someone who had been in the industry longer.)
At the same time, my mom wouldn't allow me to wear a bikini until I was 18, so that kind of put a damper on my teen model prospects. Now she's to the point where, in her mind, she would "be ok" with me doing lingerie, but ONLY stuff like granny panties, if it didn't show my face (we're talking 80s JCPenny's granny panty closeups here), and if I got a lot of money for it.
See... the thing is, I just tell them how it's going to be these days. It's one of the perks of growing up. In case you're wondering, yes. I do basically live in bikinis these days, and I have shot some lingerie that shows my face. As of yesterday, I'm planning on getting more into glamour modeling. ;-P My poor parents! (I do feel for them on this issue, but a blonde's gotta do what a blonde's gotta do!)
Best of luck to you, and remember, most of us have been there. You are not alone!
My family doesn't know much about my modeling. My mom is strangely religious, she's ok with the few images I'll randomly post on facebook, she'd probably think my nudes are porn. My sister sort scoffs at the modeling and the rest of my family...don't know, don't talk to them, don't care to. My husband likes that I model and I enjoy it, so that's all that matters to me.
Regarding safety? Yeah that is a concern sometimes. My husband worries about that a lot, as do I. I always have pepper spray in my bag. Went to a shoot recently at a home studio, the photographer was fairly young and obviously had no clue of proper shoot etiquette. There were house mates coming in and out of the house, all males, a few lounging around their living room area...yeah safety can be a concern. There was a female MUA at the shoot so I felt better, but it can be awkward.
Overall though, I do it because I enjoy it. Do I care what anyone else thinks? Nope. My husband's opinion is very important, it's a respect thing, so as long as he's ok with it, I'm golden.
nice to see someone who actually cares what their partner thinks. otherwise it's just housemates with benefits.
Jojo West wrote:
Jan 31 13 10:08 am Link
Quakertown, Pennsylvania, US
My family and friends are very supportive of it, they just warn me to be cautious though, which is to be expected. My family can be especially wary because the internet is so "scary" and there's "creepers", but I think they understand I'm pretty careful about those sorts of things.
Jan 31 13 10:36 am Link
I've posted about that in other threads. I wasn't modeling when my husband and I started dating. I asked how he felt about me doing it, and doing fetish or nudes (I plan on adding the fetish soon) and he was ok with it. If he had not been I would of asked what he was ok with and gone with that, no skin off my back. Had I been modeling before we were dating? Different story. Do I plan to model forever? No. Do I want to stay married to my husband until we're both gray? Yes...you have to look at the bigger picture and what's more important in your life. My marriage comes first.
Jan 31 13 11:17 am Link
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Photographers get it too. When I started shooting nudes my wife and kids were all over me about "They'll cry rape and black mail you!" "Why would you want to associate with women who would do that?" "But your landscapes are so pretty!" "Why don't you just shoot them with their clothes on?"
Took them a while to realize that the models and photographers really don't do anything in a nude shoot that they don't do in a clothed shoot. Having them sit in as my "escort" a few times convinced them that it was pretty boring after all.
So my solution is one that depends on the significant others. I say be as open and honest as they will let you be but be as closed and non-communicative as you have to be. It will vary from person to person.
Jan 31 13 11:23 am Link
Los Angeles, California, US
My family wasn't supportive of my modelling until I started making serious money. Now they brag to their co-workers, neighbours, friends, etc. The idea of "testing" or "creatives" is still completely lost on them though haha.
Jan 31 13 04:49 pm Link
Jacksonville, Florida, US
Half my family literally thinks I am a porn star. Literally. Even though I don't do anything blatantly sexual, I don't do open leg shots, etc. I have been called a pornographer to my face, on phone calls, and in emails.
Jan 31 13 09:02 pm Link
Boston, Massachusetts, US
People just didn't believe me when I told them. They tended to either think I was lying to make myself seem more appealing/desirable, or that I was just crazy.
I stopped talking about it with people who were not models/photographers, after a certain point.
Occasionally, someone on an airplane (or wherever) would ask me what I did for a living. I would tell them whatever came to mind: office assistant, librarian. There were a few times I said really ridiculous things that just sounded kind of clever, but actually made no sense. For some reason, even that was more believable than "internet-based nude model."
Jan 31 13 09:09 pm Link
Jojo West wrote:
I did a fetish video once, paid shoot. My feet stepping on odd bugs and critters. Unusual concept, yes. And once my relatives found out, they assumed I was doing all sorts of weird things. Nothing creepy about the videographer/photographer at all and it was up front that it was a fetish shoot and my face wasn't in the video, so I was good with it.
Jan 31 13 09:44 pm Link
one of my models just got engaged and we're going to shoot her wedding. her husband is cool with the sets we shoot. he calls her a "free spirit". they even brought the whole family in for an xmas shoot.
Jojo West wrote:
Jan 31 13 09:53 pm Link
Jefferson City, Missouri, US
I feel like it can be annoying in two aspects.
1. Annoying judgmental aspects. What do you do...how long...how much do you get paid. Are you worried it'll ruin future careers...blah blah.
2. Now all of a sudden I am so cool because I model....or people hate me just for that.
At this point I don't talk about it often...
Jan 31 13 10:00 pm Link
Dubuque, Iowa, US
Luckily, I was blessed with a 5'11 slim frame, so when I tell my family and friends about modeling, I get an abundance of support. Sometimes a bit much, as my mother wants to come to a lingerie show I am doing. She doesn't know it's for lingerie, and if it wasn't for the male strippers who will be attending, I would love to have her there.
I think if you maintain an honest heart, a professional look, and a true desire to model, anyone who really cares about you will love and support you.
I advise to be as open as you can be when it comes to who and what you are modeling for if you want your friends and family's approval and support.
Jan 31 13 11:18 pm Link
Eastbourne, England, United Kingdom
to be fair when i first started, my family were a bit dubious about the whole thing, but recently my family have loosened up after seeing some of the images i bring home to show them
My most recent one with Legend Photography, i stepped in my mothers front door and i got instantly 'omg i saw the pics on facebook, you look stunning!'
she has now begged for a framed pic to hang on the wall, and we spent an hour talking about shooting and who i meet, and work with, how these shots are done etc
so if they see that you love doing it and all the effort is worth it and they see you working hard they should be very proud
Feb 01 13 01:47 pm Link
Portland, Oregon, US
My friends think I'm going to be raped and killed because I meet strange older men in hotel rooms and take off my clothes for photographs, and occasionally consume alcohol with them.
I try to tell them its not as bad as it sounds.
Feb 01 13 01:50 pm Link
Cole Morrison wrote:
Feb 01 13 01:51 pm Link
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Jojo West wrote:
When the concept of nudes, etc. came up, my boyfriend did the same. It was pretty funny and it makes you feel better because if they can jest about it in such a raunchy sense, it obviously doesn't phase them greatly. And that they trust you.
Feb 01 13 02:29 pm Link
Berkeley, California, US
I've been modelling for more than a year now, and my parents have yet to find out about my "other life." However, my brother found my works on Facebook and was highly disapproving. He told me that he thought modelling was stupid, and even told me, "You're not tall, thin, nor particularly attractive, so why do you do this?" and wouldn't stop ranting about how he thought I was wasting my time and how stupid I looked in my photos.
He was surprised when I reached over 100 "likes" on my Facebook page (I now have over 250), and I think he's gotten used to it. He even nonchalantly asked me about how my most recent shoots went a couple of weeks ago.
As for my friends and classmates, I've received rather positive reactions from them when they find out I model. Generally, they're curious, and will ask me questions, but they continue on to treat me the same.
Feb 02 13 02:31 pm Link
Orlando, Florida, US
Um... how did your relatives find out about that?
Feb 02 13 02:36 pm Link
Back when I started shooting pictures as a teen and young adult, my parents did worry because my thing was music photography. I'd go to many concerts at arenas, or other music venues like at festivals and nightclubs.. During those early years, I'd go to quite a few on a weekly basis. It could mean 4 or 5 major concerts at an arena, along with a dozen or more nights at clubs, and a few weekends at festivals during the day. I was going to school, and working both on a part-time basis while keeping my weekends and night free for my "hobby!" Today, I have an archive of images from several hundred music concerts or events starting around 1980.
Feb 03 13 12:11 am Link
In another thread about models safety and the issue of escorts, this post encouraged me to go into more detail on what happened to me when I was careless about my own personal safety. Yet we are all far safer today than when this happened to me. As we now have digital "trails" online, carry cellphones, many with GPS location, and cameras seemingly every where! Let me say it again, We are far safer today than when this happened to me in the early 90's. Reposted from this comment;
Image K wrote:
He is absolutely correct! I was himilated, and embarrassed as a victim. I did not go to the police. There is no report of this incident. There is no proof that this actually happened, and I have only in recent time ... expanded here on what happened.
Feb 03 13 12:25 am Link
Clarksville, Tennessee, US
My family is very supportive and love that I am doing this and having so much fun. My mother, sis, aunt, nieces and brother all know 'all' that I shoot and my dad only knows that I am shooting life-style and editorial style. I don't think he and I need to have a conversation about the art nudes. Although...he might know since a large canvas is on the wall at my mom's house.
Feb 03 13 01:06 am Link
Shepparton-Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia
i told my family to mind there own business years ago, its my life not theres.
Feb 03 13 01:10 am Link
Clarksville, Tennessee, US
Cole Morrison wrote:
Feb 03 13 01:17 am Link
Florence, Toscana, Italy
Just the same for me. My boyfriend opinion is the only one I really care and he love me modeling. So everything is ok.
Feb 03 13 04:17 am Link
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom
A lot of families think they own you, in some places even the wider community think they have a stake in you and have a say in what you do. Quite often the local media promotes this attitude as a way of reflecting the attitude of the community that buys their products. However, if you allow people to control you then you're essentially living in fear of others. The best advice is just to get away from negative people and move away if necessary. If you're operating within a legal framework then you should be able to do your own thing without fear of discrimination or prejudice. Bear in mind that in many case people just want to keep you down because they're jealous and know they're not going anywhere themselves. Actually this kind of behaviour is most prevalent in family circles and specifically sibling rivalry. Live your own life and ignore the siblings!
Feb 03 13 04:39 am Link
Jim McSmith wrote:
I have one niece who has llamaed and been an "extra" on TV/movie sets on a professional level. Her own sister tried to ruin the relationship I had with her due to sibling rivalry. I love my family, but I found it best not to involve them with what I do as a photographer. With regard to parents, we shall always be their "children" no matter how "adult" aged we get.
Feb 03 13 12:57 pm Link
My mom would kill me if she knew I would meet photographers without an escort. As long as references are checked (or you've done a bit of research) and you're meeting in a somewhat public place in the middle of the day....not really a big deal. I assure my mom that she needs to trust that I have basic common sense as far as safety goes. Extreme scenarios are, well...just that. I would be uncomfortable in the photographer's home for the first shoot. Let's meet before you photograph me alone in your home...I can easily gauge what type of person you are.
As far as the fetish video I did, I forgot how it came up. I just mentioned it was a video with bug stepping. A little strange, but my family takes things to the extreme. Lesson learned.
Feb 03 13 04:03 pm Link
Patrick Walberg wrote:
So true, Patrick! No good reason to living life, if you aren't living it to the fullest each day. Knock on wood, most of my modeling experiences have been very positive...you get some rough apples here and there. When I first started modeling, I never modeled without an escort because I was brought up with extreme family paranoia. Now I am much more comfortable as long as someone knows where I am, gives me a ride there and back, or I have met the photographer before the shoot.
Feb 03 13 04:10 pm Link
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Jojo West wrote:
I'm glad it's working for you now...but it sounds like your implying that if your husband developed a problem with it in the future, you would stop because he no longer approved.
Feb 03 13 05:03 pm Link
Before the Internet, talking on the phone and meeting in public places first was about all we could do. It's actually safer for people nowadays in the sense that the Internet allows us to google and check references easier.
Feb 04 13 11:49 am Link
Image K wrote:
It's difficult to explain the dynamics of a relationship in a forum. My husband wants my happiness above all else, but I want the same for him. We have a very mature relationship that revolves a lot around communication so if there were ever something he didn't like, we'd talk about it. Would I stop completely...if there was a valid reason for it...yeah. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Feb 04 13 11:56 am Link
I grew up with an overly protective mother. Think of the movie "Almost Famous" and you'll see my character as the boy who starts going to concerts, and the mom freaking out about the "weirdo's" that might be giving me "drugs!" I swore that was my young life on the big screen! But then 30 years later, I've got a hella'va collection of concert photos!
Feb 04 13 11:58 am Link
Patrick Walberg wrote:
Actually now that you say, I was questioning it a bit, LOL. My husband knew about it and he was getting off of work around that time, so it wasn't a big deal. I am definitely glad I took the risk though.
Feb 04 13 12:02 pm Link
Image K wrote:
I couldn't imagine stopping doing something I loved, because my husband didn't approve. That would be a deal breaker for me. I don't do nudes out of respect for my husband and because I worry about any possible consequences it would have on my day job. My husband would be supportive if I did do nudes, although I know he wouldn't entirely be comfortable with it.
Feb 04 13 12:07 pm Link
Durango, Colorado, US
I've always felt like my family and friends had a slightly sarcastic "Oh, you have a photoshoot? That's cute. Now stop wasting your time and go get a real job." sort of reaction to both my modeling AND my own photography work.
The exceptions are my boyfriend and (I think) my mother.
Around anyone else, I've learned not to discuss anything industry related because I'm generally not taken seriously. I just do my thing and try to ignore the negativity.
Feb 05 13 07:41 am Link