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Photographer

WmBirch

Posts: 239

Akron, Ohio, US

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

Jan 31 13 01:50 pm Link

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Photographer

GPS Studio Services

Posts: 36296

San Francisco, California, US

It depends on who u ask

Jan 31 13 01:51 pm Link

Photographer

WmBirch

Posts: 239

Akron, Ohio, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
It depends on who u ask

asking   YOU,  and anyone who sees this.

Jan 31 13 01:52 pm Link

Model

MoRina

Posts: 5816

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

It's a nude with bodypaint.

Jan 31 13 01:53 pm Link

Photographer

Viator Defessus Photos

Posts: 1120

College Station, Texas, US

What he's saying here is that there's not necessarily 1 "right" answer to this question. It's going to vary from person to person. Usually in these cases the only answer that matters is the one you choose for yourself.

That said, I would tend to consider it implied.

Jan 31 13 01:54 pm Link

Photographer

Suicide and Redemption

Posts: 102

Clayton, Georgia, US

I'd consider it body painting/Implied

Jan 31 13 01:56 pm Link

Photographer

John Horwitz

Posts: 2729

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

the model does not shoot nudes - says so on her profile

Jan 31 13 01:57 pm Link

Photographer

hs photography

Posts: 468

Houston, Texas, US

I would say nude but  somewhat obscured.

Jan 31 13 01:57 pm Link

Photographer

DAN CRUIKSHANK

Posts: 1786

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...

Jan 31 13 02:00 pm Link

Model

Erika Muse

Posts: 286

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

Agreed.

If this is an "implied" shot then that makes all bodypaint implied nudity. Not in my opinion....if you are bodypainted you are still nude.

Jan 31 13 02:10 pm Link

Photographer

thePhotosmith

Posts: 424

Durham, North Carolina, US

MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

+1

Jan 31 13 02:16 pm Link

Photographer

WmBirch

Posts: 239

Akron, Ohio, US

Thank you all.

Jan 31 13 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 11723

Oakland Acres, Iowa, US

MoRina wrote:
It's a nude with bodypaint.

That's how I'd describe it also.

Jan 31 13 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

PTPhotoUT

Posts: 1961

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

She is partially covered with opaque body paint. So not nude.

Jan 31 13 02:18 pm Link

Photographer

James Morgan aka Maddog

Posts: 102

Burlison, Tennessee, US

This is one of those syntax grey area.  Technically, if the genitalia or nipples can be clearly seen.. It's nude.  Any non-clothing that prevents them from being seen: towel, ribbon, body posture, prop, or appendage.. Technically that's implied if the model is not dressed to society's current standards.  Body paint is a hard area to address.. I've seen body paint done so well that the model can walk out in public because people aren't paying to close attention.. But all it takes is one person to notice and it can be a police issue.

If this was in my portfolio I'd mark it as adult - 18 over only just to be on the safe side of any possible legal issue.

Jan 31 13 02:25 pm Link

Photographer

-The Dave-

Posts: 8626

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...

By MM rules your first image is NSFW and can not be displayed as an Avatar or on your Bio page.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/help/rules/images

Jan 31 13 02:31 pm Link

Photographer

Brian Scanlon

Posts: 790

Encino, California, US

It's like we need to define nude as if you can tell what is there, it's nude or we need another category to cover this case (be it body paint or wet t-shirt or whatever)

Jan 31 13 02:32 pm Link

Photographer

r T p

Posts: 3077

Los Angeles, California, US


"Nudity or nakedness is the state of wearing no clothing."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity

Jan 31 13 02:34 pm Link

Photographer

S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24315

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

of course it's nude..make up does not equal clothes..

http://i.imgur.com/m8TQi.png

Jan 31 13 02:35 pm Link

Model

Erika Muse

Posts: 286

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

S W I N S K E Y wrote:

of course it's nude..make up does not equal clothes..

+1

Jan 31 13 02:42 pm Link

Photographer

Daeda1us

Posts: 1067

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

I generally consider body paint "nude".

Jan 31 13 02:45 pm Link

Photographer

NameChanged

Posts: 371

Kansas City, Missouri, US

I would say it is six of one and half a dozen of the other ... LOL

Jan 31 13 02:46 pm Link

Photographer

Decay of Memory

Posts: 600

Asheville, North Carolina, US

Most noticeably, it's gold.

Jan 31 13 03:51 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22610

Salem, Oregon, US

it seems like models who don't do nudes will do bodypaint. so for them it isn't nude. to me if i can see nipples it's nude.

as far as mayhem i don't know if you have to mark them 18+ or not. i would be inclined to mark it as NSFW myself.

Jan 31 13 03:53 pm Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3377

Tempe, Arizona, US

I would consider it Body Painted, yet Implied is the closest I would believe it to be.

Jan 31 13 03:56 pm Link

Photographer

mphunt

Posts: 901

Missouri City, Texas, US

Model doesn't shoot nudes, so I guess not.

Jan 31 13 04:00 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 15710

Orlando, Florida, US

Why does it matter?

If you want to know if a model will do a particular idea, ask the model if she'll do it.  The only person's opinion that matters is the model.

Jan 31 13 04:11 pm Link

Photographer

Terrell Gates

Posts: 1042

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

Pretty much....  (o:}

Jan 31 13 04:12 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8379

Olney, Maryland, US

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

I'm reminded of medieval scholars debating how many teeth a horse has.

Nude or not, it doesn't matter.  Does the OP move in social circles that will judge him for photographing this image?  Does he care?  It will do him no good to argue semantics with his peers.

Jan 31 13 04:29 pm Link

Photographer

Sal W Hanna

Posts: 6629

Huntington Beach, California, US

DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Ask a Mod

Apparently this is NSFW:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/30591006

But this is OK:

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31196900

Your shot might be considered nude because of the visible outline of nipple...

Butt crack/No Butt crack. Hence why one is ok and the other is not.

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

It's bodypaint, it would be implied if more skin was showing in private areas.

Jan 31 13 04:35 pm Link

Model

NicoleNudes

Posts: 3860

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Yes, she just has gold stuff on her

Jan 31 13 04:36 pm Link

Photographer

Davos Photography

Posts: 8

North Canton, Ohio, US

In my opinion this is Implied, since any 'inappropriate' parts are not readily seen, however I would still mark it as 'NSFW'/'Mature' because there are some audiences that would claim it to be to revealing.

Jan 31 13 05:03 pm Link

Photographer

-Ira

Posts: 2187

New York, New York, US

Its nude.  Yet non revealing.

Jan 31 13 07:01 pm Link

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Photographer

GPS Studio Services

Posts: 36296

San Francisco, California, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
It depends on who u ask

WmBirch wrote:
asking   YOU,  and anyone who sees this.

You will notice that there is no agreement here.  The answers vary all across the board.  That was the reason for my reply.

Feb 01 13 04:21 pm Link

Photographer

Raoul Isidro Images

Posts: 6286

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Yes she would be nude: before, during and after the shoot, and after the shower.

Even if she was facing the other way, she would still be nude, no?

.

Feb 01 13 06:50 pm Link

Photographer

wagnerLA

Posts: 52

Los Angeles, California, US

I would classify as "covered" nude.

Feb 01 13 06:58 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11892

Olivet, Michigan, US

John Horwitz wrote:
the model does not shoot nudes - says so on her profile

Well, that settles it.  big_smile

Of course, by that logic, THIS isn't a nude either (18+)
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/18773353

Feb 01 13 07:36 pm Link

Model

Nikki Magnusson

Posts: 6841

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

implied...

theres no uncovered goodies..

and thats that... http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/142/d006ac7e2fb94fd49cbecfe56d278bc7/l.gifhttp://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/141/83794924d19943afa2a365622d1d9fe1/l.gifhttp://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/3c652048ad4144b2b346d2bbb5870272/l.gif

Feb 01 13 07:45 pm Link

Photographer

MIDNIGHT EXPRESS

Posts: 524

Pomona, California, US

WmBirch wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/17014625
Another photographer and I have been discussing  if this is nude, implied,  or what.

No, shes covered

Feb 01 13 07:52 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Cynna Stylz MUA

Posts: 217

New York, New York, US

Although covered, there is still too much nippy at view. This would make my 12yo nephew sooooo happy. Otherwise it is a beautiful pic.

Feb 01 13 08:02 pm Link