Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > Cleaning up scuff marks on white seamless

Photographer

Phillip Leach

Posts: 70

Austin, Texas, US

Is there anyone out there that can direct me to a good, simple way to clean up the scuff marks that turn up on a seamless backdrop?  You know the ones that start off as a little and by the end of the shoot you wonder if the model was walking through mud before she came over. 

Anyway, I have a bunch of photos to edit that all took place at the same time (look book shoot on white seamless paper) and I need a quick way to make everything a nice bright white so that I can get them doen and to my client quickly.  Perhaps some sort of masking technique?  Clone stamp seems to be taking forever.  Any help is greatly appreciated and forgive me for not responding immediately.  I will comment back when I free up from work.  Thanks

Feb 04 13 08:21 pm Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1404

Fremont, California, US

healing brush? it's all a pretty standard texture... shouldn't be too hard for the brush to figure out what to use. if it is, use the healing brush where you define the clone source.

Feb 04 13 08:25 pm Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Content Aware Fill.

Feb 04 13 08:26 pm Link

Photographer

Phillip Leach

Posts: 70

Austin, Texas, US

Healing brush?  O.k., I tried that but thought it also took a while.  I'll make another run at it.

Not sure what the Content Aware Fill is.  Can you give me anymore info?

Feb 04 13 08:48 pm Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Mask out the model and use surface blur. The mask doesn't have to be precise.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4493/blury.jpg

Feb 05 13 04:25 am Link

Retoucher

Daniel Meadows

Posts: 757

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Peano wrote:
Mask out the llama and use surface blur. The mask doesn't have to be precise.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4493/blury.jpg

This^

Clone out any major scuffs first, blur it out, mask it, then replace the noise.

Feb 11 13 03:02 am Link

Photographer

xbe photographer

Posts: 167

Kaišiadorys, Kauno, Lithuania

Peano wrote:
Mask out the model and use surface blur. The mask doesn't have to be precise.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4493/blury.jpg

I dont stand this hmm
maybe you can explain step to step? I try it but is not working://

Feb 13 13 09:14 am Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

xbe photographer wrote:
I dont stand this hmm
maybe you can explain step to step? I try it but is not working://

Set up your layers like this:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6356/sblur.jpg

Apply surface blur to the layer that has a mask on it. As Daniel Meadows suggested, if there are heavy scuff marks, clone them out before blurring.

If you're not familiar with the surface blur dialog box, Google for tutorials. You need to understand what the radius and threshold sliders do.

Feb 13 13 09:27 am Link

Photographer

xbe photographer

Posts: 167

Kaišiadorys, Kauno, Lithuania

Peano wrote:

Set up your layers like this:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6356/sblur.jpg

Apply surface blur to the layer that has a mask on it. As Daniel Meadows suggested, if there are heavy scuff marks, clone them out before blurring.

If you're not familiar with the surface blur dialog box, Google for tutorials. You need to understand what the radius and threshold sliders do.

very thanks peano

Feb 13 13 09:43 am Link

Photographer

hs photography

Posts: 468

Houston, Texas, US

This my be a little off topic since you asked how to clean the seamless but an ounce of prevention is sometime worth a pound of cure, you know the old saying.  In the future, if you make sure the shoes are clean- use a towel, damp cloth, or whatever works, that way you'll spend less time in post and your seamless will last a little longer.  Just a thought.

Feb 13 13 09:52 am Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 717

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

hs photography wrote:
This my be a little off topic since you asked how to clean the seamless but an ounce of prevention is sometime worth a pound of cure, you know the old saying.  In the future, if you make sure the shoes are clean- use a towel, damp cloth, or whatever works, that way you'll spend less time in post and your seamless will last a little longer.  Just a thought.

3, 2, 1, Back in the room!! That would be a dream, the perfect world but... you know that will never happen!! :-)

Feb 13 13 11:26 am Link

Photographer

Herb Way

Posts: 1486

Black Mountain, North Carolina, US

hs photography wrote:
This my be a little off topic since you asked how to clean the seamless but an ounce of prevention is sometime worth a pound of cure, you know the old saying.  In the future, if you make sure the shoes are clean- use a towel, damp cloth, or whatever works, that way you'll spend less time in post and your seamless will last a little longer.  Just a thought.

Just in case anyone is willing to admit that we baby boomers just might know something, here's a tip. smile

When I was learning fashion/glamour back in the days before Photoshop (the 1970's to be exact), the photographer that I was assisting kept 2" wide rolls of masking tape on hand. He would have me cover the soles and heels of the models' shoes with it and then trim around the edges so that it wouldn't show in the photos. He was able to get, on average, 5 or more shoots on the same section of the paper before I had to cut it off and discard it.

Feb 13 13 11:42 am Link

Photographer

hs photography

Posts: 468

Houston, Texas, US

The Invisible Touch wrote:

3, 2, 1, Back in the room!! That would be a dream, the perfect world but... you know that will never happen!! :-)

How hard is to have a rug or towel lying next to the seamless and have the model wipe their feet before stepping onto the paper?  Once the shoes are cleaned, they shouldn't have to keep cleaning them.  I think that's easier than spending unnecessary time in post.

Feb 13 13 11:51 am Link

Retoucher

Chase Retouching

Posts: 39

Kansas City, Missouri, US

hs photography wrote:

How hard is to have a rug or towel lying next to the seamless and have the model wipe their feet before stepping onto the paper?  Once the shoes are cleaned, they shouldn't have to keep cleaning them.  I think that's easier than spending unnecessary time in post.

About as hard as it would be for photographer's to bother cleaning dust off their camera sensors wink

Feb 13 13 04:39 pm Link

Photographer

hs photography

Posts: 468

Houston, Texas, US

Chase Retouching wrote:

About as hard as it would be for photographer's to bother cleaning dust off their camera sensors wink

I would imagine in your case, photographers feel that since they're having you retouch their images, there's not much need for them to clean things up a bit before hand.  But with the seamless, that's the photographer's responsibility and cost out of their budget and time from their schedule.  If one needlessly wasted enough paper, they would come up with a solution.  As thrifty as I am, I sure would.

Feb 13 13 07:14 pm Link

Photographer

hs photography

Posts: 468

Houston, Texas, US

Chase Retouching wrote:
About as hard as it would be for photographer's to bother cleaning dust off their camera sensors wink

Feb 13 13 07:17 pm Link

Photographer

the lonely photographer

Posts: 1888

Beverly Hills, California, US

Chase Retouching wrote:

About as hard as it would be for photographer's to bother cleaning dust off their camera sensors wink

even if the soles are clean   the black rubber  leaves little marks on the paper, even though the paper is "relatively" cheap, it adds up.  Theres a clear film with semi sticky adhesive on it you can apply to the shoes  after you clean the soles and heels,  that may help.  You can find it at dental supply   they use it to cover in use areas   another place is Uline supply

Feb 13 13 09:59 pm Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 717

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

hs photography wrote:
How hard is to have a rug or towel lying next to the seamless and have the model wipe their feet before stepping onto the paper?  Once the shoes are cleaned, they shouldn't have to keep cleaning them.  I think that's easier than spending unnecessary time in post.

Don't get me wrong, I am totally with you in this one!! Unfortunately that's not the real world... 99% of my clients don't do that!!

Chase Retouching wrote:
About as hard as it would be for photographer's to bother cleaning dust off their camera sensors wink

BOOOM!!! You just took the words out of my mind!!

Feb 13 13 11:39 pm Link