Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > Moving facial features without blurring them?

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1435

Fremont, California, US

I'm dealing with an image right now, with some slightly asymmetrical facial features (eyes at differing levels and rotation and lips not symmetrical).

I've processed a version of the image, and the facial features lost all of their sharpness. The eyelashes merged, lips lost a little luster, etc.

I was using liquefy, with the "push right" tool. Should I have used smudge at a high opacity to move things where I wanted them?

I hesitate to post a sample, as the model is on MM and I don't want her to be upset at my criticism of her features. wink

Oh, this was a full-length shot at 85mm, but the face had recognizable sharpness to begin with.

Feb 09 13 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

Cardmaverick

Posts: 28

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Try making a selection and using the warp tool instead.

If you're doing drastic changes, you'll be stretching and deforming a lot of pixels. You gotta go easy with that sort of stuff.

Feb 09 13 03:02 pm Link

Photographer

Bernard Wolf

Posts: 28

Santa Monica, California, US

If you have CS5 or 6 Puppet Warp also works well.

Feb 09 13 03:52 pm Link

Retoucher

Kristiana-Retouch

Posts: 289

London, England, United Kingdom

I also would suggest puppet warp or free transform/warp

Mostly I use one of them and then mask/invert and take back parts I need, so the other parts would stay untouched.
For example I've used puppet warp here:
http://fav.me/d5kz3pq

Feb 09 13 04:19 pm Link

Photographer

RSM-images

Posts: 4226

Jacksonville, Florida, US

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Take one side of the face and flip it horizontally.  Than apply it next to the other side of the face.

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Feb 09 13 04:45 pm Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1435

Fremont, California, US

RSM-images wrote:
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Take one side of the face and flip it horizontally.  Than apply it next to the other side of the face.

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not an option. one side is so shadowed that the lighting wouldn't match.

Feb 09 13 05:10 pm Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Mask Photo wrote:
I was using liquefy, with the "push right" tool. Should I have used smudge at a high opacity to move things where I wanted them?

I hesitate to post a sample, as the llama is on MM and I don't want her to be upset at my criticism of her features. wink

The liquify and smudge business sounds all wrong. I've moved eyes all over the place without doing that. Can't tell about your problem without seeing it.

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af171/retouch46/Forums/eyes-3_zpscebf41f4.gif

Feb 09 13 06:02 pm Link

Photographer

Motordrive Photography

Posts: 3731

Lodi, California, US

I copy the feature and then transform, turn or whatever needs to be done.
You are still changing the pixels so there will be a loss of quality no matter
what method is used, it is more controllable this way.

Feb 09 13 06:08 pm Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1435

Fremont, California, US

Peano wrote:
The liquify and smudge business sounds all wrong. I've moved eyes all over the place without doing that. Can't tell about your problem without seeing it.

jaja, I tried again by copying the eye and moving and transforming it, and it worked really well. I remembered seeing something about that on here (prossibly from one of your tuts, peano).

AND thanks to my nondestructive workflow, I was able to insert it into the image below all the adjustment layers (was a little annoying to have to split one section into high and low freq and then slide moth of those in and then adjust any masking that didn't line up, but it was FAR better than trying to match colors to a flattened final). XD

Looks fantastic now. I'm just working on redoing the sharpening and I'll be able to deliver it to the model.

Thanks, all!

I should really work on my techniques for facial manipulation. I don't do as much as I probably should to clean up minor facial misalignments.

Feb 09 13 07:15 pm Link

Retoucher

btdsgn

Posts: 2212

Wahiawa, Hawaii, US

The way Peano is doing it is the best way. I use a combination of all the ways listed above with liquify and warp being used for smaller adjustments.

Feb 09 13 09:40 pm Link