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Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Hey everyone!

Just sharing a video I made for a retouching competition on Facebook by which i analysed the submissions for the competition and also show my result and approach via in-depth walk through

Everything is based on personal taste, so i don't expect everyone to agree with my thoughts, however i am open to hearing what everyone has to say.

of course i did the video for marketing purposes as well so no need to make mention tongue

excuse my accent and poor narrative skills x_x

Photography: Fanny van Poppel
Model: Temi
MUA: Danielle Trilsbeek


video: http://youtu.be/cntkQMH3Pqo

check out the video on youtube for all links

Final image;
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/063/b/6/high_end_retouching_competition_2013_by_featheredpixelsrs-d5wz2ob.jpg

Mar 12 13 03:42 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Mar 12 13 09:57 pm Link

Retoucher

Alejandro Crespo

Posts: 111

Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, Bolivia

uh, the second picture is great!, gona check this one tomorrow morning smile

muchas gracias smile

Mar 12 13 10:07 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/317/b/b/lips_by_featheredpixelsrs-d5kwp12.jpg

Also did one for this image 

can be viewed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEWUa9iWwc

Apr 05 13 09:34 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/095/a/6/s_bourson_by_featheredpixelsrs-d60l1t7.jpg

currently working on a walkthrough for this image wink

stay tuned

Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/featheredpixels

Apr 05 13 09:37 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5se9JI7vg8

the link for the above image walkthrough smile

Apr 06 13 12:35 am Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

On the first video the phrase "I was not going to d&b the whole thing because it's not paid work" sprang out at me. On the final image, I would venture that you have gone too far with the inverted high pass/bandstop, the final image shows too much homogeneity.

I would be tempted to leave this video out of the collection, as most of it is taken up by you explaining the competition on Facebook etc. and perhaps is not the best marketing tool or representative of your skills.

I haven't checked the other tutorials, but the images look more promising.

Apr 06 13 04:12 am Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/960138_4510147246363_1832531048_n.jpg

Here is another. Hair retouching this time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIunABL4S5c

Jun 03 13 01:26 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Post hidden on Jan 07, 2014 02:15 pm
Reason: not helpful
Comments:
Large photo is stretching the page

Jun 24 13 07:35 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

coming soon:

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/175/c/9/high_key_retouch_by_featheredpixelsrs-d6aj2ll.jpg

STAY TUNED

Jun 24 13 07:37 pm Link

Photographer

JoshuaBerardi

Posts: 615

Davenport, Iowa, US

You do good work. I'm glad you have posted videos. Not everyone is willing to do such a thing, or they are and don't post them publicly. (like me ;p )

Your workflow is so much different than mine. I think that's a neat thing though.
The biggest difference...you use a massive amount of layers.

HOLY.
LAYERS.

big_smile

-joshua

Jun 24 13 09:22 pm Link

Photographer

SKITA Studios

Posts: 1566

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I was hoping you had some magic way to do that hair retouch so it wouldn't take forever but it took you a day! :-O
I hate flyaway hairs...

Jun 25 13 07:59 am Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

here is a link to video walk-through of the last image I posted...

hope you guys like!

be sure to share wink

http://youtu.be/Ys-Alo7OMxI

Jul 23 13 07:43 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Hey guys!


here is the link to my latest video:

http://youtu.be/4d_v8uZVD94

final image: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/210/5/c/garth_williams_retouch_crystal_blue_by_featheredpixelsrs-d6fq6z0.jpg

Jul 29 13 02:08 pm Link

Digital Artist

RixDigital

Posts: 159

Crystal Lake, Illinois, US

Good stuff!

Jul 29 13 03:43 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

here's another for you guys....

video: http://youtu.be/cQ3GWGoUPNI

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120617/03/4fddb7432b3a0.jpg

Sep 11 13 05:03 pm Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13842

Chicago, Illinois, US

You asked for feedback at the end of the very first video you posted, so I’m going to give you some. Moderators… check around the 28:18 mark.

You spent the first twelve minutes of the video bad mouthing the work of the people that finished ahead of you in the contest.

A number of times you mentioned the original photography was terrible. At one point you added the comment that it was so terrible, you felt your effort was less than stellar, but was not your fault.

It seemed like you may not have rehearsed beforehand, because your delivery was stilted and very choppy. You were very obviously searching for explanations as you went along, which created a lot of pregnant pauses. It almost seemed as if you didn’t understand what you were trying to say.

I couldn’t keep up with the count of how many times you said it wasn’t your best work because you weren’t getting paid. You also mentioned had it been paid work, you would have done things differently.

I suggest that if you are going to produce more tutorial videos, you rehearse them before hand, eliminate negative comments regarding the work of others, and quit deflecting blame away from yourself, when clearly you are the one doing the work. If you actually are using these videos to secure new clients, you might consider taking them down until you resolve some of the issues I mentioned.

Sep 12 13 09:29 am Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Don't bandpass the last images hand and Amen to RR.

Sep 12 13 03:37 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Robert Randall wrote:
You asked for feedback at the end of the very first video you posted, so I’m going to give you some. Moderators… check around the 28:18 mark.

You spent the first twelve minutes of the video bad mouthing the work of the people that finished ahead of you in the contest.

A number of times you mentioned the original photography was terrible. At one point you added the comment that it was so terrible, you felt your effort was less than stellar, but was not your fault.

It seemed like you may not have rehearsed beforehand, because your delivery was stilted and very choppy. You were very obviously searching for explanations as you went along, which created a lot of pregnant pauses. It almost seemed as if you didn’t understand what you were trying to say.

I couldn’t keep up with the count of how many times you said it wasn’t your best work because you weren’t getting paid. You also mentioned had it been paid work, you would have done things differently.

I suggest that if you are going to produce more tutorial videos, you rehearse them before hand, eliminate negative comments regarding the work of others, and quit deflecting blame away from yourself, when clearly you are the one doing the work. If you actually are using these videos to secure new clients, you might consider taking them down until you resolve some of the issues I mentioned.

Do you notice the improvement of the quality of images as the forum progresses?

need I say more?

Nevertheless I appreciate that you took the time smile

Sep 14 13 10:02 am Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

Mike Needham Retouching wrote:
Don't bandpass the last images hand and Amen to RR.

Why not? its a technique and it can be used.... don't tell me not to if it looks good..

You retouchers are so caught up with 'rules' and forget that there are artistic decisions to be made as well... fine, "dont do it on the entire image" (which I didnt) or "dont use one radius" (which I also didnt) but dont tell me not to use the technique especially when I used it in a sensible way. When the situation presents itself use whatever tools or technique required to create your desired result.

Shocking you didn't also mention not to use gaussian blur on the skin as well.
Which in fact if you watched the entire video you would notice that I did. However I didnt use it as a skin smoothing effect but rather to create a sense of depth... wink

Sep 14 13 10:15 am Link

Photographer

Kevin Connery

Posts: 16915

El Segundo, California, US

FeatheredPixels wrote:

Mike Needham Retouching wrote:
Don't bandpass the last images hand and Amen to RR.

Why not? its a technique and it can be used.... don't tell me not to if it looks good..

I'm going to guess it was in reference to the highlighted areas here, where I'm also guessing he hadn't thought that you wanted a fingerprint-esque pattern added to the edge of the hand.
http://kevinconnery.com/photos/screenshots/ModelMayhem.com_-_Retouching_Walkthrough_and_Analysis_17E5089C.png

When going for an unusual effect, it's useful to tell people so they don't think it's a mistake.

Sep 14 13 02:17 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

New Walkthrough: http://youtu.be/xSY1tdP-1XQ

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/302/4/2/garth_williams_retouch__hair_and_toning_by_featheredpixelsrs-d6sa05b.jpg

Oct 29 13 01:24 pm Link

Retoucher

Five Retouching

Posts: 51

Des Moines, Iowa, US

I've actually watched a few of your videos before ever even seeing this thread, good stuff!

Oct 29 13 01:36 pm Link

Retoucher

Peano

Posts: 4106

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

My impressions are summed up here and here.

Oct 29 13 05:26 pm Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 717

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

Robert Randall wrote:
You asked for feedback at the end of the very first video you posted, so I’m going to give you some. Moderators… check around the 28:18 mark.

You spent the first twelve minutes of the video bad mouthing the work of the people that finished ahead of you in the contest.

A number of times you mentioned the original photography was terrible. At one point you added the comment that it was so terrible, you felt your effort was less than stellar, but was not your fault.

It seemed like you may not have rehearsed beforehand, because your delivery was stilted and very choppy. You were very obviously searching for explanations as you went along, which created a lot of pregnant pauses. It almost seemed as if you didn’t understand what you were trying to say.

I couldn’t keep up with the count of how many times you said it wasn’t your best work because you weren’t getting paid. You also mentioned had it been paid work, you would have done things differently.

I suggest that if you are going to produce more tutorial videos, you rehearse them before hand, eliminate negative comments regarding the work of others, and quit deflecting blame away from yourself, when clearly you are the one doing the work. If you actually are using these videos to secure new clients, you might consider taking them down until you resolve some of the issues I mentioned.

Totally agree!! I would also like to add that you shouldn't work harder on just paid jobs... free jobs still represent you and trust me if your test is good this will become paid jobs in the near future.

Oct 29 13 05:43 pm Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 717

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

FeatheredPixels wrote:

Why not? its a technique and it can be used.... don't tell me not to if it looks good..

You retouchers are so caught up with 'rules' and forget that there are artistic decisions to be made as well... fine, "dont do it on the entire image" (which I didnt) or "dont use one radius" (which I also didnt) but dont tell me not to use the technique especially when I used it in a sensible way. When the situation presents itself use whatever tools or technique required to create your desired result.

Shocking you didn't also mention not to use gaussian blur on the skin as well.
Which in fact if you watched the entire video you would notice that I did. However I didnt use it as a skin smoothing effect but rather to create a sense of depth... wink

You need to learn to be a bit more humble and take criticism!! Sometimes is good take on board what other people say about your work. :-)

Oct 29 13 05:45 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

The Invisible Touch wrote:

You need to learn to be a bit more humble and take criticism!! Sometimes is good take on board what other people say about your work. :-)

I am very humble and always open to criticism smile however I dislike that people say not to use a specific technique... that is not critisizing my work but rather placing rules on what you're allowed to do in photoshop. If you want to critique the image say something like "maybe tone down the technique" OR "maybe it wasn't necessary for the specific image" OR "maybe it needed more" Or "maybe you could have cloned a bit more."

With that said I believe that all the tools can be used for retouching in one way or the other, it has its pros and cons and its do's and dont's... Remember even skin cloning and/or healing can be taken too far if its not used right wink

Best

Oct 29 13 08:53 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

The Invisible Touch wrote:

Totally agree!! I would also like to add that you shouldn't work harder on just paid jobs... free jobs still represent you and trust me if your test is good this will become paid jobs in the near future.

I agree but the image wasn't a test or trade but rather for a friendly competition...

Oct 29 13 09:03 pm Link

Retoucher

The Invisible Touch

Posts: 717

Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain

FeatheredPixels wrote:

I agree but the image wasn't a test or trade but rather for a friendly competition...

Yes, but this still represents you!! Other potential clients can see your attitude towards competitions/free jobs/test and might put them off.. just a bit of advice :-)

Oct 30 13 04:45 am Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

NEW VIDEO!!!

Check it out here: http://youtu.be/4XCYWg6rsZo

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/319/d/d/s_bourson_by_featheredpixelsrs-d6udkfz.jpg

Nov 16 13 05:02 pm Link

Retoucher

Brandon Cline-Jones

Posts: 88

Portland, Oregon, US

I wasnt going to comment until I watched as the thread devolved into the OP blaming and attacking comments and commentators all while disregarding constructive criticism.

You put your stuff up here for criticism. Not taking that criticism when asking for it is simply silly. Even if you disagree with what people are saying, you accept their feedback because YOU ASKED. Then if it is absolutely wrong or you feel the need to comment back or address their statement. Dont attack them, instead explain WHY you dont do that or simply say I have never done that, thanks for the ideas. Stay positive....

and my criticism of your work, is that you have a halo around a lot of your lips. If I were you I would fix those hard lines that look like mistakes.

Nov 17 13 10:58 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Bennett

Posts: 2222

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

That last one is really nice.

Nov 19 13 12:07 am Link

Retoucher

Dy Liu

Posts: 38

Beijing, Beijing, China

these links  are broken......

FeatheredPixels wrote:
New Walkthrough: http://youtu.be/xSY1tdP-1XQ

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/302/4/2/garth_williams_retouch__hair_and_toning_by_featheredpixelsrs-d6sa05b.jpg

Nov 19 13 06:29 am Link

Retoucher

Greg Curran

Posts: 204

Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

not bad, but watch the hard edges, especially around the lips.

Nov 19 13 08:19 am Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13842

Chicago, Illinois, US

I'm not critiquing your work, I'm critiquing your video, which you asked us to do. I turned it off after 2:30 because all you did during that period was turn before and after layers on and off and said how much red you put into a conversion of the raw file. for two minutes and 30 seconds, you wasted my time and lost my interest.

I'm not telling you this to make you angry, or to humiliate you. you seem determined to continue with these videos, and I hate to see you put all of that work into an enterprise that's doomed to fail because you can't properly script your videos. Kudos to you for talking faster and admitting your videos are tedious, but I strongly suggest you script them better and rehearse more before you commit them to the web. If you go into that video and count, you'll see you repeated yourself ad nauseam for the first two minutes.

Best of luck to you.

Nov 19 13 08:35 pm Link

Retoucher

FeatheredPixels

Posts: 327

Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago

NEW WALKTHROUGH!!!!

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKJBhDzNkXw


https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1393845_590029217718573_303348796_n.jpg

Jan 07 14 03:17 am Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13842

Chicago, Illinois, US

Much better presentation, I actually watched the whole thing.

Jan 07 14 08:43 am Link

Retoucher

Natalia_Taffarel

Posts: 7665

Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Could you PLEASE stop using MY FUCKING NAME in your video tags? Do I need to report you to youtube as well?

I have been a good sport and haven´t done what I should have done... can you AT LEAST have SOME decency?

Jan 07 14 09:50 am Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13842

Chicago, Illinois, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
Could you PLEASE stop using MY FUCKING NAME in your video tags? Do I need to report you to youtube as well?

I have been a good sport and haven´t done what I should have done... can you AT LEAST have SOME decency?

I wasn't paying that much attention... where did he use your name?

Jan 07 14 10:30 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18211

Orlando, Florida, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
Could you PLEASE stop using MY FUCKING NAME in your video tags? Do I need to report you to youtube as well?

I have been a good sport and haven´t done what I should have done... can you AT LEAST have SOME decency?

I guess some people never learn from their mistakes

Jan 07 14 10:32 am Link