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Is it normal practice for a photographer to request a cell phone picture prior to a nude shoot? I'm planning on working with a photographer I like in two months, and he requested I send him a nude cell phone picture today, so he can see what my body looks like for him to plan the shoot. He said that the pictures would be deleted a few minutes after receiving them. I just want a consensus as to whether this is normal practice, and I should do this or not? Thank you! Mar 23 13 06:52 am Link If the photographer is going to hire you for nudes, and you don't have any nudes to view in your portfolio, it is not an unreasonable request. I don't like surprises when hiring nude models. Mar 23 13 06:58 am Link If you are shooting nude and your portfolio does not have any nudes (and, in your case, not even a bikini shot), it is entirely reasonable to send sample nudes. The photographer needs to get an idea of your physique, what tattoos you have or don't have, etc. Mar 23 13 06:59 am Link I looked in your portfolio here, I saw nothing to go by. No bikini, no nudes, nothing. How else do you suspect he'd know what he is working with? I may ask for the same thing if I am shooting nudes or implied with a model with none of that in her port.....or in a case where every image looks heavily retouched, I'd want to know why.....same as agencies and MM ports having "Polaroids" so we can see the natural canvas. Mar 23 13 07:00 am Link C h a r l e s D wrote: +1 Mar 23 13 07:01 am Link I understand why he's asking for them. I'm not daft. I indicated to him that I am starting nude work at the beginning of April which will give me experience and also give him an idea of what I look like prior to shooting, which is two months later. I was just wondering if it was generally a safe way to do so rather than sending a bikini picture to start with. Thanks everyone. Mar 23 13 07:02 am Link Bikini pics are not nude pics. They're almost worthless to a nude photographer. If you're worried about cell phone pics sent to his cell, upload something here for him to view. Even those same cell phone pics. Mar 23 13 07:03 am Link Yes, I am aware. Again, I am just cautionary with proceeding to send nudes with my cell phone without even sending bikini first. All I really wanted to know was whether this was common to request or not, and now I know it is. Problem solved. Mar 23 13 07:05 am Link C h a r l e s D wrote: Good idea, thank you. I'll just upload to here. Mar 23 13 07:06 am Link I am guessing it's a fair request if you are planning on shooting nude and don't have any to view. It could be that he wants to know what your skin looks like. Some people have lots of discolorations, marks, scars, body fat in strange places, third nipples, tails and such...haha Mar 23 13 07:09 am Link Alright, if you understand why he's asking, I guess I don't understand the context of the question. In the past, when I've asked for this, I don't want it sent to my phone. I don't care if they use a phone, point and shoot camera, if they email it to me with enough pixel dimensions to actually see it, I'm satisfied. As far as bikini first, if I was setting up a nude shoot, and I got a bikini pic instead, I'd be concerned that nudes aren't for that model and would proceed cautiously. I would keep private emails as a means of that for now, until you have some portfolio of nude.....then post the "polaroid" here in your MM port. That could save you from getting the flood of GWC inquiries in the meantime, it's better you pick the people for now. Mar 23 13 07:10 am Link I do request A Today's Photo....The reason I ask for a Today's Photo through MM...is there is fraud and fake's on MM. Some models truly don't look the way they portray themselves in their own Ports. Tooooooo Much Photo Shop. Melt away their massive fat. Over Photo Shop their faces to make them look younger!!! Fake their ages...So I ask for a camera phone picture..to keep them very honest...and when they will not provide..They are Frauds and Fakes. Mar 23 13 07:11 am Link Is the person on MM? Has he worked with anyone you know? Have you seen any pics that he has taken? I would ask, and I would expect a model not to worry about providing me with pics, but there are 'collectors' out there who do not intend to set up photoshoots and just want models to send naked pictures of themselves. If you are at all unsure about the photographer's motives then it might be best to give up on the shoot and to look for a photographer you will be more comfortable with. Mar 23 13 07:17 am Link I don't understand how you can be willing to be photographed nude with this photographer but not take a nude picture of yourself to send it to them (especially if you have no nudes in your portfolio). This is no different to a 'polaroid': an unretouched unstyled representation of you as you are today so they know what you look like. Mar 23 13 07:34 am Link I find it odd that you'd happily upload a possibly unflattering image (because of the recording-medium used) to MM where anyone can view and download the image, but not send it to one person who presumably could be asked to delete it. If you're going to shoot nude, just get on with it - I know the 'idea' of sending nude images via cell-phone sounds a bit seedy, but in this context it really isn't. Mar 23 13 08:06 am Link Danielle Hieronimi wrote: --I think asking for nude photos, two months out "to plan a shoot" is a little odd. Mar 23 13 08:23 am Link It is totally a legitimate request... if you are working with a legit photographer. I understand your hesitation. There are some creepy dudes out there just looking for cheep thrills by conning you into sending them some nudie pics. There are a couple of ways to avoid the creepers. You can look at their portfolio and see if they do good quality work in a style that you like with a variety of models. If they do, then there is a pretty good chance they can do the same for you, and they are not likely a creeper. You can also contact other models they've worked with, or ask for references. Ask the models what he's like to work with. If he has a good portfolio, and his past models liked working with him, then I wouldn't hesitate to send the cell phone pics as requested. Mar 23 13 08:29 am Link To Danielle Hieronimi- As others have stated, his request is very reasonable given that you don't have any nudes on your portfolio. I would suggest rather than emailing him the images you actually take some of yourself and post them on MM. Make sure you have clear, well lit whole body shots of your front, both sides, back, and one of your face. It doesn't need to be with a cell phone. It can be done with a point & shoot. Photographers want to know what they're committing to before confirming for a nude shoot. Mar 23 13 08:37 am Link If need be, take a series of cell nudes and put them in a password album in your MM portfolio. When you have quality ones then delete the cell ones as necessary. Mar 23 13 09:43 am Link To me that seems more creepy than anything. Plus if you take them yourself what more could a cell pic show (other than boobies) that a bikini or simple underwear pic wouldn't? Andrew Thomas Evans www.andrewthomasevans.com Mar 23 13 09:51 am Link New Art Photo wrote: +1 Mar 23 13 09:52 am Link Danielle Hieronimi wrote: What is the magic about April? Mar 23 13 09:59 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: Seems kinda standard for a number of your replies.......wrong. Mar 23 13 10:01 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: That IS the flip side of the coin. Mar 23 13 10:01 am Link JOEL McDONALD wrote: Plus if they are really that good then they still could plan something - it's not like they don't know her general stats - and the hone in the planning later once nudes are up or something. Mar 23 13 10:05 am Link Danielle Hieronimi wrote: Is there some rule I don't know about that you need to send bikini photos via your phone "first"? Mar 23 13 10:06 am Link DougBPhoto wrote: Perhaps the OP was being 'creative' with her DoB when signing up for MM...? Mar 23 13 10:11 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: Um... everything ELSE that is the point of a nude shoot? Mar 23 13 10:12 am Link RKD Photographic wrote: IF that is/was the case, then it would not be a good idea to send any images via cell phone. Mar 23 13 10:14 am Link Good Egg Productions wrote: It has all the red flags for me. Mar 23 13 10:15 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: On the other hand, it could be a totally legitimate request, and the information above is just be an insight into the way your mind works. Mar 23 13 10:18 am Link DougBPhoto wrote: You mean the part of my mind that want's nothing to do with a cell phone pic of a 18 year old new nude model 2 months before a shoot? Mar 23 13 10:21 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: This is a valid argument. It doesn't mean the guy is up to no good. Mar 23 13 10:21 am Link Search for a local photog right there in Chicago that you like and that is in sync with the types of nudes you want to do. There are many that are very good and just starting out. And quality nude models are very sought after. Contact him/her with the TF offer to do a shoot in the next week or so. Specify the types of nudes you want to do. Get a nice and classy selection of your nudes. Then post these images for that other photog to view. Cell nude pics are so not what you want to show for your first nude effort if you can avoid it. Mar 23 13 10:23 am Link Danielle Hieronimi wrote: So just tell him to wait until your nude shoot is done. Better to send him a watermarked, (hopefully - better quality picture). I can't think of a reason why he/she would be opposed to waiting to see a nude pic. Mar 23 13 10:23 am Link I would never ask a model to send me naked photos of herself over a cell phone or email. I would tell them to post a nude photo on their profile on here. Models should really put some clean fresh natural shoots of themselves in their profile. Makes everyones life so much easier Mar 23 13 10:24 am Link If you have a website password protected, you can let him have access to posted pics Mar 23 13 10:25 am Link JOEL McDONALD wrote: I'll second this. Mar 23 13 10:25 am Link Erlinda wrote: I totally agree. There are tons of quality photogs that are totally fine with TF for a new model. Mar 23 13 10:26 am Link Andrew Thomas Evans wrote: Yes. If I'm paying someone to add to a series, I want specific bodies with specific requirements. These things WOULD be important to me. Now, that said, I probably would not be interested in paying a first time nude model for my series. Mar 23 13 10:28 am Link |