Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > Warning! Rant about Escorts

Photographer

StevieSteve

Posts: 24

Madison, Wisconsin, US

If she brings a female llama herder, I don't mind one bit. I'm not gonna complain if more women come to the shoot than I expected! LOL.

Apr 01 13 05:24 pm Link

Photographer

Lance DuLac

Posts: 59

Colchester, England, United Kingdom

This is why you are better off choosing an escort that is righteous and moral. It does not hurt if they are trained in combat and ready to defend a model, and her honor, at a moments notice.

Apr 01 13 06:10 pm Link

Model

M A U I

Posts: 1587

Harare, Harare, Zimbabwe

StevieSteve wrote:
If she brings a female escort, I don't mind one bit. I'm not gonna complain if more women come to the shoot than I expected! LOL.

female escort? I think i have the different escort in mind, lol

Apr 01 13 06:13 pm Link

Photographer

Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

Escorts have usually been good to me. Out of the more than 100 shoots I figure I had 25 that had escorts and 2 that were no good experiences. I prefer girl friends in the shoots and not boyfriends, brothers, or fathers. Also don't forget about drama queens. I can't stand it!

Apr 02 13 08:51 am Link

Photographer

Matt Schmidt

Posts: 3681

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

Just today I had a model give me the run around about an llama herder (her Dad, she's 21) so I explained to her. . . .

Ring-Ring . . .

"Hello . . ."

"Hello to you . . ."

"You are right to have an llama herder, (dropped this on me about an hour before we were to shoot, we've been planning for weeks now) . . . esp. these days with all the craziness going around, OMG! (drama) I exclaimed, and come to think of it (we planned a studio shoot) we'd better reschedule this for an outdoor public set, maybe we'll hook up with one of those 'Group' shoot-outs, so we are all protected by a big crowd of people.  You can't be too careful and it won't matter the quality of time or imagery . . . it'll be fine.  Besides I'm sure you're fine . . . but I don't know your llama herder (I exclaim) and I don't want to get rolled in my place of business, mugged or ripped off . . . come to think of it . . . it frightens me just thinking of someone, I don't know, in my business while I work."

"(her) . . . Uhmmm, well I was just thinking that, (I cut in . . .)

"I'll keep an eye out for anything or maybe some FB happenings I run across . . . who knows something just might work out"

". . . . ."


. . . I fucking heard crickets

May 22 13 03:46 pm Link

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Damon Banner

Posts: 85305

Hayward, California, US

veypurr wrote:

How did the escort interfere? How do escort's usually interfere? I am preparing to hire a string of models and some of these prospective models have mentioned bringing escort's. Should I take on a policy of no escort's?

some wander off and disappear until the model calls them (good escorts)
some sit in the corner and STFU (good escorts)
some put their dick on your shoulder, as a show of force (bad escorts)
some glare at you and the model
some talk too fucking much
some steal
some shit in your toilet and don't flush
some try to help but really aren't helping (probably most common)

May 22 13 03:50 pm Link

Photographer

Bare Essential Photos

Posts: 3403

Upland, California, US

You need to take responsibility for accepting the escort, despite what the model says.

I don't accept escorts. End of story.

May 22 13 04:06 pm Link

Photographer

JH Photography1

Posts: 88

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

I find "escorts" to be very annoying and have never had a good experience with this.  It is usually an over protective or jealous boyfriend or a male friend that is hoping to be her boyfriend at some point.  My most recent experience with a tough guy escort was him bringing a handgun to the shoot and making it very well know he was armed...Most all of my shoots are done in a very public park setting to begin with.. It is just a liability in my opinion.

May 30 13 10:43 pm Link

Photographer

KonstantKarma

Posts: 2513

Hickory, North Carolina, US

Fotographahaulic wrote:
Just today I had a model give me the run around about an escort (her Dad, she's 21) so I explained to her. . . .

Ring-Ring . . .

"Hello . . ."

"Hello to you . . ."

"You are right to have an escort, (dropped this on me about an hour before we were to shoot, we've been planning for weeks now) . . . esp. these days with all the craziness going around, OMG! (drama) I exclaimed, and come to think of it (we planned a studio shoot) we'd better reschedule this for an outdoor public set, maybe we'll hook up with one of those 'Group' shoot-outs, so we are all protected by a big crowd of people.  You can't be too careful and it won't matter the quality of time or imagery . . . it'll be fine.  Besides I'm sure you're fine . . . but I don't know your escort (I exclaim) and I don't want to get rolled in my place of business, mugged or ripped off . . . come to think of it . . . it frightens me just thinking of someone, I don't know, in my business while I work."

"(her) . . . Uhmmm, well I was just thinking that, (I cut in . . .)

"I'll keep an eye out for anything or maybe some FB happenings I run across . . . who knows something just might work out"

". . . . ."


. . . I fucking heard crickets

lol

I had one (23 or 24 years old?) try to bring her mom.  What in the fuck. lol

May 31 13 06:14 am Link

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JH Photography1

Posts: 88

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

In general it has been an annoying waste of time.  It has caused lots of last minute cancellations as well due to the "escort" becoming unavailable.   I try to give people every opportunity to check references and meet before a shoot if need with their escort.

May 31 13 08:28 am Link

Photographer

Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

Its up to the photographer to decide but you always run the risk of having one trouble maker. I have taken chances because honestly I would not had the chance to work with the models. What you want to make sure is that no boyfriends or dads are at the shoot.

May 31 13 09:55 am Link

Photographer

GeorgeMann

Posts: 1148

Orange, California, US

I have photographed many of the highly professional models here on MM and on omp. I have had many of them just show up at my door with boyfriends, husbands, girlfriends and even one mom.
In every case I invited them into my home.
One very prominent model even expected her boyfriend to wait outside in the car for the two hours on an afternoon in August.
I have never had a problem with a single one since I began photographing nudes.
I have had a husband fix a crashed hard drive, a boyfriend get the images from a corrupted memory card for me, and the mom even went out and bought lunch.
Most just sit in my living room or dining area and work on their lap tops or play video games without so much as a glance into the shooting room.
I have never had one even suggest that he/she be in the room where we are shooting.
I think many of the "escort" problems are caused by the photographer himself, by using inappropriate language while talking to the model, threatening the "escort" with violence, or just being very good looking and seeming a threat to the boyfriend/husband.
Me, I am old and not good looking so I can rule that out, too old to threaten anyone, and my language, while sometimes sketchy, never compares to the language used by some models.
A lot of the reasons, I think, that I never have problems is that I will not shoot with a newbie and hire, yes I pay, only the very professional models here and on omp.

May 31 13 10:56 am Link

Photographer

JH Photography1

Posts: 88

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

I think it must be the one where I am to good looking and cause drama. I do agree that I usually shoot newer models that have most of the drama..." Hi this is my escort/boyfriend/manager/part time model/sometimes cell phone pic photographer"....Ohh good this is going to go well.

May 31 13 03:52 pm Link

Photographer

Gavin Poh

Posts: 229

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Never really had an issue with escorts. As Stephano said, it's your call to set boundaries.

May 31 13 04:03 pm Link

Photographer

JH Photography1

Posts: 88

Reading, Pennsylvania, US

Yea I don't have a problem if they don't act like morons...

May 31 13 04:08 pm Link

Photographer

All Yours Photography

Posts: 2339

Toledo, Ohio, US

Francisco Castro wrote:
The point of this post is not to rail against escorts, to make it clear that models are responsible for the people they chose to bring. Their guests are their responsibility.

When my daughter was growing up, my wife and I always told her that explaining "house rules" to anyone she brought home was her job.  If her friends left a mess, it was HER mess to clean up.

Jun 01 13 09:41 am Link

Photographer

Jay Edwards

Posts: 18251

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

All Yours Photography wrote:

When my daughter was growing up, my wife and I always told her that explaining "house rules" to anyone she brought home was her job.  If her friends left a mess, it was HER mess to clean up.

Excellent.

Jun 01 13 10:01 am Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32233

Woodinville, Washington, US

Damon Banner wrote:
some put their dick on your shoulder, as a show of force (bad escorts)

For real?

Seriously... for real?

Jun 01 13 10:10 am Link

Photographer

Docta Shock Photografix

Posts: 1729

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Most of the models I shoot had escorts. I understand why. Never had one problem, most are useful.

Jun 02 13 07:39 am Link

Photographer

John Edward

Posts: 2462

Dallas, Texas, US

I remember setting up a shoot a while back with a model, as a photographer. She wanted to bring an llama herder. Her "manager" (I believe boyfriend). 6'2' 180 lbs dude. To protect her. I am a female, 5'8 and 115 lbs. That made me uncomfortable and I declined the shoot, feeling that I would have at very least been uncomfortable and unable to properly focus.

Yeah, I'm 5'11", and weigh about 135.

I run the forty yard dash in about a minute. Yeah, I am really fearsome. I know what "NO," Means. You can look at my port, either the girl looks really cool, or she's obviously having a good time.

My worst fear is a girl is gonna run out my front door naked, and scream, and my neighbors are gonna call the police.

My best day?

She brings her sister, and her sister say's:

I'll get naked.

So I shoot her sister, and she sits on the couch, getting mad, while her sister and I have a Great time.

Sisters, when they show up, now that's fun

Jun 02 13 09:00 am Link