Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > Second hand lingerie

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Francisco Castro

Posts: 1735

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

I have been checking out the MM Market forum; just checking for any interesting gear that I can pick up for a bargain.

I noticed a few llamas (and some photographers) selling clothing items such as boots, corsets, costumes, etc.. However, I also noticed USED LINGERIE being sold. I'm sure the sellers have cleaned and laundered the underwear.

But llamas, how do you feel about buying and using second hand lingerie, or using used lingerie provided by photographers? Doesn't it feel weird?

Mar 30 13 06:47 am Link

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Julia Francesca

Posts: 2365

Maumee, Ohio, US

i would imagine lol

Mar 30 13 05:59 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Broughton

Posts: 2246

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

now you know how i feel when i spot used socks for sale at thrift stores.

Mar 31 13 02:04 am Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35329

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I wouldn't buy 'second hand' lingerie. Fuck no. For a shoot, you'd better believe I won't wear it either. It's either new with tags or nothing at all. I don't care if you laundered it or cleaned it or whatever. I still won't wear it. Don't be a cheap ass.

Apr 01 13 09:14 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54149

Buena Park, California, US

Lingerie is not always panties.

I'm sure some of is fine.  But anything that involves contact with the genitals...yeah...forget it.

Apr 01 13 10:27 am Link

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ontherocks

Posts: 22622

Salem, Oregon, US

just seems like maybe it's better not to share panties. even if there's no health risk (after laundering) there is still the "ewww" factor. do BFFs even exchange underwear? supposedly you're not even supposed to share towels or toothbrushes.

but if you're doing nude shoots and the model is nude on the furniture it's not like you can run the furniture through the washing machine on hot. some furniture could be wiped down, though. not to mention nude babies and all the things they do!

we get boudoir clients asking for wardrobe all the time and we tell them that we prefer not to share intimate items. we do offer robes and gowns and men's dress shirts and tanks and such and launder those between shoots. but hooha stuff, no. we look for panties on sale so we can have a selection for models with tags still on and they can keep after the shoot or dispose of.

for kids there's a concern about lice.

Apr 01 13 10:34 am Link

Photographer

Will Snizek Photography

Posts: 1387

Beckley, West Virginia, US

I'd imagine 2nd hand lingerie would be a great way to catch something that doesn't come off.  I guess you can kill most diseases with hot enough water, but it would still seem kinda nasty to me.

Apr 01 13 10:34 am Link

Photographer

Lumatic

Posts: 13750

Brooklyn, New York, US

Yuck.

I'm not even a model and the thought makes me shudder.

Apr 01 13 10:40 am Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 27375

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Will Snizek wrote:
I'd imagine 2nd hand lingerie would be a great way to catch something that doesn't come off.  I guess you can kill most diseases with hot enough water, but it would still seem kinda nasty to me.

Anything you'd be worried about "catching" can't outlive the hot water, chemicals in detergent, or live outside the body for long enough to infect you. The only way you can "get anything" from someone else's underpants is if they just took it off and you put it on right after them.

Most bacteria/viruses are more fragile than we think.

If this weren't true everyone's households would have to have individual dedicated sets of bathtowels for each member, because washing them wouldn't get the ick off from when they dried their junk after a shower.

Yes, that's right, you're drying your head off with a towel that once came in contact with someone else in your houses asscrack, the world is ending.



You might think its gross just on principle, and that's fine, but its not medically unsafe as long as you wash them properly.

Apr 01 13 10:40 am Link

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Anastazie

Posts: 33

Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden

Nope. Never. NWT or NOT at all.

Apr 01 13 10:46 am Link

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-Ira

Posts: 2187

New York, New York, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
Yes, that's right, you're drying your head off with a towel that once came in contact with someone else in your houses asscrack, the world is ending.

Yep.  And when you go to a hotel and use their towels....or sleep in their bed....

Or try on clothes at a store.....

Apr 01 13 10:47 am Link

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Lumatic

Posts: 13750

Brooklyn, New York, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
Yes, that's right, you're drying your head off with a towel that once came in contact with someone else in your houses asscrack, the world is ending.

Better the ick you know than the ick you don't, eh?  wink

Apr 01 13 10:47 am Link

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Bella la Bell

Posts: 4451

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Depends.  I buy tons of vintage corsets, bras, girtals and stockings. Nothing wrong with that.

Hell no to used panties.  I use my own modern day wear.

Apr 01 13 10:47 am Link

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-Ira

Posts: 2187

New York, New York, US

-Ira wrote:

Yep.  And when you go to a hotel and use their towels....or sleep in their bed....

Or try on clothes at a store.....

edit:  For the record whenever I have bought clothing for a shoot I let the model take it home.  Rarely fits me anyways.

Apr 01 13 10:48 am Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 36723

Columbus, Ohio, US

Will Snizek wrote:
I'd imagine 2nd hand lingerie would be a great way to catch something that doesn't come off.  I guess you can kill most diseases with hot enough water, but it would still seem kinda nasty to me.

Be careful of those public toilet seats.

Apr 01 13 10:48 am Link

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MatureModelMM

Posts: 1197

Detroit, Michigan, US

It's not a problem for me at all, as long as the items are freshly laundered.  Many times over the years that I have been modelling, an artist or photographer has dressed me up in various vintage or modern lingerie items to create poses with a specific look.

Apr 01 13 10:49 am Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 27375

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Lumatic wrote:

Better the ick you know than the ick you don't, eh?  wink

If you've got half a brain and can push the buttons on a washing machine in the correct sequence....there's no ick at all. That works better for me than strange or familiar ick.

Apr 01 13 10:52 am Link

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ontherocks

Posts: 22622

Salem, Oregon, US

According to drmirkin.com, it may possible (although unlikely) to contract the herpes virus from toilet seats or other plastic seating areas if the conditions are just right.

Read more: How Long Can the Herpes Virus Survive Outside of the Body?

http://www.ehow.com/way_5494737_long-vi … -body.html

this would seem to track with the "few hours" idea (and also requires an open sore) although i found a site that said flu germs can live on for a few days or perhaps even longer although they go dormant but maybe can be reactivated.

Apr 01 13 10:58 am Link

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M A U I

Posts: 1587

Harare, Harare, Zimbabwe

Sterilizers.

Apr 01 13 11:00 am Link

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ShotbyRon

Posts: 767

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I'm kinda on the fence about it. I can see why a model wouldn't want to wear a pair of underwear that has been used. But at the same time, if it's only been warn for shoots and it's been cleaned. It's not like the model before them wore it all day long and it was just pulled from the dirty laundry basket.

Other items such as bra's, tops etc..There shouldn't be an issue. Bring your own, or wear what I have. (which isn't much) A good piece of lingerie runs about $50-$80. (If not more) and you are more then likely wearing 2-4 outfits a set. Unless I'm getting paid, no way I'm spending a couple hundred dollars on clothes for one shoot.

Apr 01 13 11:04 am Link

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Azimuth Arts

Posts: 1490

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

For a regular pair of panties that sell at stores for a few dollars then just buy new and let the model keep them.  However, if you are buying vintage pieces or high-end items where the cost per piece could be several hundred dollars you can combine proper laundering with a hygienic strip like those used in stores for trying on swimwear.

You can buy them off e-bay at around $35 for 250 pieces.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-LOT-250-Swim … 0656581705

Just use a new strip for each model - and ask her to remove the strip at the end of the shoot and dispose.

Or just shoot with whatever the model already owns.

Apr 01 13 11:15 am Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 5989

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

So when the commercial (hotel / dry cleaners) washing machine says 600 pounds capacity how many people's dirty laundry is that?


http://commerciallaundryequip.com/we-industrial/

Apr 01 13 12:00 pm Link

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Isis22

Posts: 2577

Muncie, Indiana, US

I prefer to wear my own clothing(or frankly nothing at all) for modeling shoots. I did wear a vintage dress for my last shoot and I didn't think "ick" at all. There is no way I am wearing used panties unless I know for a fact they have been recently laundered.

Apr 01 13 12:06 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35329

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Yeah, I meant panties.

That's why I'd much rather use my own clothing/whatever to shoots.

Apr 01 13 12:07 pm Link

Photographer

Andialu

Posts: 14029

San Pedro, California, US

I only buy second hand underwear. That way I can blame the skid marks on the previous owner.

Apr 01 13 12:12 pm Link

Photographer

Wildcat Photography

Posts: 1486

Valparaiso, Indiana, US

Shoot only nudes...LOL!

Wildcat

Apr 01 13 12:42 pm Link

Photographer

Lumatic

Posts: 13750

Brooklyn, New York, US

Laura UnBound wrote:

If you've got half a brain and can push the buttons on a washing machine in the correct sequence....there's no ick at all. That works better for me than strange or familiar ick.

Heh.  Yeah, but the other personalities that rent out fractions of my brain like to argue with the half that knows that.  tongue

Apr 01 13 12:51 pm Link

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SitronStudio

Posts: 1064

Venice, Florida, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
Most bacteria/viruses are more fragile than we think.

If this weren't true everyone's households would have to have individual dedicated sets of bathtowels for each member, because washing them wouldn't get the ick off from when they dried their junk after a shower.

Yes, that's right, you're drying your head off with a towel that once came in contact with someone else in your houses asscrack, the world is ending.



You might think its gross just on principle, and that's fine, but its not medically unsafe as long as you wash them properly.

I never heard of a family that shares bath towels! When I was a kid, the bath towel went in the laundry after using. My wife and I have never shared a bath towel, if I even mentioned it I can imagine the look she'd give me.

Apr 01 13 01:01 pm Link

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Matt Knowles

Posts: 3563

Ferndale, California, US

People get grossed out about some stupid things. We have lingerie that is over 100 years old in our collection. Not one model has ever been grossed out about wearing any of it.

But some of you are grossed out wearing something even if you knew it had been properly washed? Silly. You're far more likely to get sick because the photographer or makeup artist coughs in your direction.

Apr 01 13 01:03 pm Link

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Andialu

Posts: 14029

San Pedro, California, US

Matt Knowles wrote:
People get grossed out about some stupid things. We have lingerie that is over 100 years old in our collection. Not one model has ever been grossed out about wearing any of it.

But some of you are grossed out wearing something even if you knew it had been properly washed? Silly. You're far more likely to get sick because the photographer or makeup artist coughs in your direction.

I don't think they are afraid of catching anything. I think it's purely the grody factor.

Apr 01 13 01:07 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35329

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If that makes me silly, fine. I can live with that. There are worse things in life.

Also, define lingerie? What exactly do you have that is supposedly 100 years old?

Apr 01 13 01:10 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 27375

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

SitronStudio wrote:
I never heard of a family that shares bath towels! When I was a kid, the bath towel went in the laundry after using. My wife and I have never shared a bath towel, if I even mentioned it I can imagine the look she'd give me.

neutral I meant after washing. Since the whole point of the post your replying to was to say "if its been washed, its clean"

Do you throw your towels away after one use, or do you wash them? If you wash them, does each member of your family use the exact same towel after every wash or is it possible that you're currently using a towel that, one wash ago, your wife had used? Are you grossed out by the fact that prior to washing, she dried her vag with it and now you're using it to dry your face? Are you afraid that your face might "catch something" from that towel or are you confident that all the germs she put on that towel when she used it were killed when that towel went through the washing machine?




Further, if its a bath towel, you ought to be clean by the time you're using it, you and your wife don't take good enough showers that you'd be grossed out by having to share a towel to dry off with? I hear they make this thing called soap now.

Apr 01 13 01:19 pm Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 36723

Columbus, Ohio, US

SitronStudio wrote:

I never heard of a family that shares bath towels! When I was a kid, the bath towel went in the laundry after using. My wife and I have never shared a bath towel, if I even mentioned it I can imagine the look she'd give me.

Depends on age.....when I was a kid older generations in my family shared bath water.....

Apr 01 13 01:23 pm Link

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JaneyGarnet

Posts: 85

Portland, Oregon, US

I've never had a model balk at wearing my vintage corsets. But I'm certainly not going to pull a pair of my panties out of the drawer and ask her to put them on.

Apr 01 13 01:23 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 27375

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Cherrystone wrote:

Depends on age.....when I was a kid older generations in my family shared bath water.....

I still share baths with my fiance...but uh, that's different wink



And we use soap and know how to wash ourselves so it doesn't really matter who's towel is who's.

Apr 01 13 01:27 pm Link

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Will Snizek Photography

Posts: 1387

Beckley, West Virginia, US

Cherrystone wrote:

Be careful of those public toilet seats.

I am.  Public restrooms are a genuine fear of mine.  I'd rather go find a spot off a road a little ways into the woods than use a public toilet.  Lol

Apr 01 13 01:47 pm Link

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Azimuth Arts

Posts: 1490

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

SitronStudio wrote:

I never heard of a family that shares bath towels! When I was a kid, the bath towel went in the laundry after using. My wife and I have never shared a bath towel, if I even mentioned it I can imagine the look she'd give me.

I'm pretty sure she meant using the towel of someone else AFTER having been washed.  In our house we have 4 identical bath sheets, two are in use in the bathroom (on dedicated hooks one each for me and my wife) and two are in the laundry or clean.  But when we go for a clean towel we have no idea who used the last one because they don't have serial numbers or monograms. 

Same is true for the face clothes used in the shower.

But every now and again one of us will step out of the shower and realize we did not bring in a clean towel from the linen closet - in which case we might well use the others'.  We are after all clean when we get out of the shower - and at that point the towel goes into the wash.

Apr 01 13 02:33 pm Link

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Wander Lost

Posts: 96

Ontario, California, US

Azimuth Arts wrote:

I'm pretty sure she meant using the towel of someone else AFTER having been washed.  In our house we have 4 identical bath sheets, two are in use in the bathroom (on dedicated hooks one each for me and my wife) and two are in the laundry or clean.  But when we go for a clean towel we have no idea who used the last one because they don't have serial numbers or monograms. 

Same is true for the face clothes used in the shower.

But every now and again one of us will step out of the shower and realize we did not bring in a clean towel from the linen closet - in which case we might well use the others'.  We are after all clean when we get out of the shower - and at that point the towel goes into the wash.

This in my household too.

Apr 01 13 02:58 pm Link

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Will Snizek Photography

Posts: 1387

Beckley, West Virginia, US

Azimuth Arts wrote:

I'm pretty sure she meant using the towel of someone else AFTER having been washed.  In our house we have 4 identical bath sheets, two are in use in the bathroom (on dedicated hooks one each for me and my wife) and two are in the laundry or clean.  But when we go for a clean towel we have no idea who used the last one because they don't have serial numbers or monograms. 

Same is true for the face clothes used in the shower.

But every now and again one of us will step out of the shower and realize we did not bring in a clean towel from the linen closet - in which case we might well use the others'.  We are after all clean when we get out of the shower - and at that point the towel goes into the wash.

I don't even share family bath towels after being washed.  I have my own bathroom that no one else uses with my personal set of towels.  But I know I'm weird.

Apr 01 13 03:03 pm Link

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SitronStudio

Posts: 1064

Venice, Florida, US

Wander Lost wrote:

This in my household too.

Sorry,  my bad. Not the first time I've misunderstood someone.

Apr 01 13 04:32 pm Link