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Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 22610

Salem, Oregon, US

we get that sometimes with our paying boudoir customers. the woman does it as a gift for their man and then he flips out (we're a husband&wife team but maybe it's partly because another man was involved?) and we don't shoot the really racy soccer mom stuff i hear about from other shooters. men are still very much influencing their women in this town.

JOEL McDONALD wrote:
How about the newbie model that signs a release, enthusiastically poses/models, including nudes, posts a thank you tag and then shortly thereafter txts/emails asking that the images not be used/posted because her fiance (bf/husband/family) does not know and/or would be upset. hmm

Mar 31 13 12:22 pm Link

Photographer

terrysphotocountry

Posts: 4148

Rochester, New York, US

I say STOP! This sessopion is over. Good bye!

Mar 31 13 12:25 pm Link

Photographer

Will Snizek Photography

Posts: 1387

Beckley, West Virginia, US

ontherocks wrote:
we get that sometimes with our paying boudoir customers. the woman does it as a gift for their man and then he flips out (we're a husband&wife team but maybe it's partly because another man was involved?) and we don't shoot the really racy soccer mom stuff i hear about from other shooters. men are still very much influencing their women in this town.


When I first started out with a camera I got talked into doing one of those surprise gift wife in lingerie shoots.  That became a major headache.  The photos were good but the husband was royally pissed off about someone else seeing his wife in sexy clothing.  I will never go down that road again.  Lol

Mar 31 13 12:29 pm Link

Photographer

Bob Helm Photography

Posts: 18213

Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US

Models have what they want, photographers what they want. It called policy, know yours and what are non negotiable.

If you do not want escorts and you have a new model who wants to bring one, well that very well may be non negotiable. Experienced model say 3+ years on MM with tons of references coming a long distance? Well that may be more negotiable if references bear out the escort is not a PITA and you tell the modle any intereference and the shoot ends and no pay because they roke the aggrement.

No one is forcing you to work with ANY model and they either work under your policy, you under theirs, you work out a compromise or pass on the "opportunity". It really does not matter what others would do.

Mar 31 13 12:33 pm Link

Model

Kelleth

Posts: 2528

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

My husband is a photographer but it in no way changes the way I interact or work with other photographers. I love working with a multitude of people.

Mar 31 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

Lance DuLac

Posts: 59

Colchester, England, United Kingdom

Boyfriends... no one needs them.

Husbands are fine, but complicate matters.

If a Lady needs an escort, it is best for her to deal with a professional who is trained and is also a moral person. A family member will do, but do not send a boy to do a man's job.

Mar 31 13 11:21 pm Link

Model

P I X I E

Posts: 35327

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Laura UnBound wrote:
Nobody is making you work with them. Either accept their craziness or don't shoot them

+1

Apr 01 13 12:09 pm Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 2571

Muncie, Indiana, US

The key is avoiding the drama queens and the crazies BEFORE the shoot begins. You should be able to identify them before by their communcations.

Apr 01 13 12:39 pm Link

Model

V for Victory Modeling

Posts: 436

Roseville, California, US

I've had my husband as an llama herder...none of these issues of the sort.

Apr 01 13 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23374

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Valerie Kelly wrote:
I've had my husband as an escort...none of these issues of the sort.

You're admittedly a beginner model, have less than 1 year of experience, and you only shoot on weekends.

It doesn't surprise me that someone with your experience insists on a significant other as an escort, since you fit the profile of the vast majority of models that insist on escorts.

Apr 01 13 02:14 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

Valerie Kelly wrote:
I've had my husband as an escort...none of these issues of the sort.

Image K wrote:
You're admittedly a beginner model, have less than 1 year of experience, and you only shoot on weekends.

It doesn't surprise me that someone with your experience insists on a significant other as an escort, since you fit the profile of the vast majority of models that insist on escorts.

Valerie does NOT "insist" on anything!!!!   I've shot with her twice already, with the first shoot being in their apartment.  Her husband was there working on the computer, which is probably what I would be doing if I weren't shooting.  Then the second time, I picked them both up in my car, took them downtown San Jose to shoot around the park and a hotel, as per mutually agreed upon arrangement.

Listen, I'm not a bad guy, and I was in control of the photo shoots, but if I were a bad guy ... just think of this young couple inviting a stranger into their apartment, or taking them in my car ... while it seems like I know so much more about them than they do about me.  Her husband is a quiet, nice guy who carried our stuff downtown, and spent his time doing gaming or messaging on his cellphone. 

The fear and paranoia that people have of each other is ridicules!  First of all, I blame the Internet for this fear mongering of meeting people.  I asked Valerie and all models I might shoot with to speak with me on the phone.  I check out everyone that I might allow or invite at my photo sessions.  I actually ASKED Valerie if her husband could assist us at the second shoot! AGAIN:  Valerie did NOT insist on her husband coming, I asked her to invite him.

When I shoot at certain locations, I have asked models if they could supply me with an extra person to help out in watching our stuff, or assisting in other ways.  I've met plenty of people in advance that have worked out wonderfully at my shoots.  In the past, I've also asked models if I can bring someone too. 

This inviting of guests is a mutual decision between both the model and photographer.  Talk with each other about who and why that person would be invited.  So far, the reasons that myself and the models have been inviting people has made sense to me.  No one has ever said  "I need to have a body guard because I'm afraid of you." 

NEVER SHOOT WITH STRANGERS!!!!   I did that once and was kidnapped by two women ... one posing as a "model" and it is was all because I met them at a nightclub.

Apr 01 13 02:29 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

Isis22 wrote:
The key is avoiding the drama queens and the crazies BEFORE the shoot begins. You should be able to identify them before by their communcations.

I agree with you.  You as a model are responsible for communicating with the photographers for potential photo shoots.  If you have an anxiety or fear of that photographer ... then that means you need to do some more checking out of that person.  Don't let photographers OR models be "strangers" ... and that simply means to me that besides writing messages or texting, I MUST talk on the phone, and/or meet the people in advance in possible.  I've even gotten an hearing impaired model to call me with assistance. 

I'm sick and tired of hearing about the flakes, and those bad experiences that everyone but me seems to have.  I would love to give seminars out at my ranch with models and photographers coming out here to not only learn how to communicate and work with each other but to have a great time as well!  We have gallons of wine, 60 acres, horses, oak trees and clothing can be optional for photo shoots since we're way out in the country.  Camping is available too!

I've been doing this since I was a teenager decades ago ... and met many hundreds of wonderful people ... and not so wonderful people.  Often times I've become friends with models and their significant others.  I'm still friends with quite a few models who I shot with 10, 15, and even 20 years ago.  My rule is "No strangers at photo shoots!"

Apr 01 13 03:05 pm Link

Model

- Aina -

Posts: 747

Redlands, California, US

In all honesty, OP, I read the first couple sentences of your post, skimmed the rest, and decided that any person with such a mindset as that should be avoided. Silent power is stronger in many ways than flamboyancy. Don't bother. Ditch it.

Apr 01 13 03:25 pm Link

Photographer

The F-Stop

Posts: 1510

New York, New York, US

So WTF did you come shoot with me for if he's a photogrpher?

smile

Apr 01 13 03:37 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

Generasean Photography wrote:
I know there are a couple other forum posts about boyfriends and husbands being escorts, or models specifically saying that they have a boyfriend (in their bio/ad), but I've come across a couple models who say their boyfriend or husband is also a photographer, so they demand crazy things.

Anyone else have an encounter like that? How do you deal with it? I mean I've even shot with models who took photography class in school and tried to make me shoot a certain way (let me do my thing!) but models who say something along the lines of
"Don't try to _________ with me" or
"I expect a certain level of professionalism during the shoot" or
"I want to be shot like ____________ and paid $_______" and "by the way, I know the ins and outs because my boyfriend/husband is also a photographer"

I hope this makes sense, thanks!

Aw!  So the op is a photographer!  Excellent!  How do I deal with it?  I communicate in advance with the potential model.  I ask the right questions on the phone in talking with them.  Interesting in 30 years of shooting, I have never had a model say "Don't try to ____ with me" EVER!  No one has ever questioned my level of professionalism either.  Nor have I ever had a model tell me how she wants to be shot UNLESS she is paying me.  You've encountered models who want to control you!  Just say "Sorry, but not going to happen!"  Then find someone who will work "with" you!

Just so you know, photographers and models can work together.  As a member of the former Western Portrait and Figure group, I brought photographers and models together.  I was often times invited to attend the sessions of those whom I placed together.  I've also had the honor of shooting models who were also photographers, and I've even shot the weddings of a couple photographers in the past!  I enjoy discussing the "ins and outs" of the industry with anyone willing to listen.

IF you have had models tell you such things as you've posted, I would say "Excuse me, but I don't work well with people who insist on not working as a team.  Sorry, but I must pass!"   I've worked with many stylists, MUA's as well as models and even have assisted other photographers on shoots.  We work as a team, with someone acting as the leader.  There are various differences in working "with" someone, for someone or around someone.  I prefer working "with" people.

Do I shoot 'one on one' with models?  Yes, I do!  Quite often as a matter of fact!  It all depends on the desired end result.  Sometimes I like having a "team" and sometimes I don't.  As the photographer, it's up to you to take the lead ... even in cases where you are getting paid.  Don't let people bully you into situations where you are uncomfortable! That goes for models and photographers!

Apr 01 13 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

Majestic Quarterly

Posts: 32

Los Angeles, California, US

John David Studio  wrote:
I had two instances where models brought their boyfriends and then I found out that they are aspiring photographers or in one case a very experienced photographer.

One of the models was always looking to her friend for approval of what I was trying to do.  My visual style was different than what she usually did with her boyfriend. The other was okay but in the end I was providing him training for a free photographic technique session.  I guess I should have told him I charge $150 per hour for mentoring.

My attitude now is to only work with the model, makeup artist, assistant and myself.  Anything else is unnecessary complexity.

That's interesting. I haven't come across something like that, but I have had similar situations where supposedly their boyfriend or whatever is also a photographer so similar to yours, everything I was doing.. the model would be looking at him in that expression of "what do you think? is this legit?" sort of way.

Makes me feel uncomfortable, NOT knowing the model would bring someone like that beforehand.. and during the shoot, it makes me feel like I need to win someone's acceptance of sorts.

Apr 03 13 11:25 pm Link

Photographer

Majestic Quarterly

Posts: 32

Los Angeles, California, US

K Davis Photography wrote:
I've had models come to shoot accompanied by a female friend which I'm generally fine with. If they were to come with their partner, I'm not sure if I'd be too thrilled about the idea to be honest... Especially if their Boyfriend/Husband is a photographer themselves. I don't think I'd be able to relax knowing that some dude is watching me like a hawk either checking out my photographic techniques, or what I'm getting his girlfriend to do.

Maybe meet up with them for a coffee or something first to get an idea of what they are really like and then decide from there. Either that or don't bother smile

nicely said! big_smile

Apr 03 13 11:26 pm Link

Photographer

Majestic Quarterly

Posts: 32

Los Angeles, California, US

JOEL McDONALD wrote:
How about the newbie model that signs a release, enthusiastically poses/models, including nudes, posts a thank you tag and then a day or so after the shoot ends she txts/emails asking that the images not be used/posted because her fiance (bf/husband/family) does not know and/or would be upset. hmm

I actually had that recently. The boyfriend somehow got a hold of my contact information and called me on a blocked number demanding that I removed the images that I posted. I contacted the model and she told me she had no idea that her boyfriend "went behind her back" to do such a thing.

Turns out he's the jealous type and only wants her body for his eyes -- and she's the type where she just does what she wants as long as she's faithful to him. (seriously felt like I was being caught in the midst of a bad relationship issue).

The model gave me the go-ahead to post the images regardless of what the boyfriend said though.. so we're good on that thankfully big_smile

Apr 03 13 11:33 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

John David Studio wrote:
I had two instances where models brought their boyfriends and then I found out that they are aspiring photographers or in one case a very experienced photographer.

One of the models was always looking to her friend for approval of what I was trying to do.  My visual style was different than what she usually did with her boyfriend. The other was okay but in the end I was providing him training for a free photographic technique session.  I guess I should have told him I charge $150 per hour for mentoring.

My attitude now is to only work with the model, makeup artist, assistant and myself.  Anything else is unnecessary complexity.

I know in advance who is coming, and often times I've already met everyone that is going to be showing up.   My rule is "invited guests only!"   It helps because then the model and I have discussed whom will be there, and we mutually agreed on it.  No exceptions!  Those who are uninvited shall be turned away at the door!

Having chairs set aside and selling tickets helps.  I do charge people who wish to be spectators.  I also teach and mentor student photographers for a fee or trade.  It helps pay the bills, and quite a few models are ok with splitting the money made from such ventures.  Some models are too shy for this sort of thing.  So at my photo shoots, you either work for trade or pay or you pay to be there.

Apr 04 13 01:47 am Link

Photographer

Camerosity

Posts: 5316

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
Nobody is making you work with them. Either accept their craziness or don't shoot them

+1

There is no model on Earth that, if I don't shoot her, I'll regret it forever and die a slow and painful death.

There is no model on Earth who won't survive not shooting with me, and I'm guessing the same applies to you.

There are profiles for a reason - so models and photographers (and others) can find compatible people who meet their criteria to work with.

If a model doesn't meet your criteria, just click on the red X in the upper right-hand corner and spare yourself the drama. I'm sure they'll do the same for you.

Apr 04 13 02:07 am Link

Photographer

Leighthenubian

Posts: 2964

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Or....OR, you can stop whining and man up.

If it's your casting then set the tone for how things will be laid out from concept to delivery of images. Anyone who doesn't like it won't contact you.

As for BF or Hubby's being photographers...who isn't these days. I don't see how that is some kind of threat to you. One of my good friends is always introduced as a photographer by his wife...he's actually an accountant who occasionally shoots dance performances.

If a model wants images that look the same from shoot to shoot she would stick with her man and not seek out other photographers.

Your approach will tell anyone paying attention what your level of professionalism and competence is.

P.S. people have all kinds of BS on their profiles...like "I no longer do TF's" or "I'm not on here regularly so if you want to work together contact me at [Insert silly email name here]"...when in fact those things are usually not true. Get over it and go shoot.

Apr 04 13 06:37 am Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10556

Gatineau, Quebec, Canada

ontherocks wrote:
we get that sometimes with our paying boudoir customers. the woman does it as a gift for their man and then he flips out (we're a husband&wife team but maybe it's partly because another man was involved?) and we don't shoot the really racy soccer mom stuff i hear about from other shooters. men are still very much influencing their women in this town.


I shot soccer for 5 years. where are these racy soccer moms??????

Apr 04 13 06:50 am Link

Photographer

Michael Bots

Posts: 5970

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Loki Studio wrote:
"How do you deal with people with crazy demands?" ignore them. end of drama.

Exactly!


Anybody can be replaced.    Not worth the grief.

   
Diva demands by Jennifer Lopez cancels her IPL opening ceremony performance
http://indianfusion.aglasem.com/diva-de … rformance/

Jennifer Lopez's diva demands costs her a gig
http://www.accessatlanta.com/videos/ent … gig/vxCRB/

Diva Attitude Nips J-Lo In The Butt Big Time
http://www.nodeju.com/7113/diva-attitud … -time.html

Apr 04 13 06:53 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

Michael Bots wrote:
Exactly!


Anybody can be replaced.    Not worth the grief.

   
Diva demands by Jennifer Lopez cancels her IPL opening ceremony performance
http://indianfusion.aglasem.com/diva-de … rformance/

Jennifer Lopez's diva demands costs her a gig
http://www.accessatlanta.com/videos/ent … gig/vxCRB/

Diva Attitude Nips J-Lo In The Butt Big Time
http://www.nodeju.com/7113/diva-attitud … -time.html

Posting about Jennifer Lopez is way off topic.  She is a celebrity and what you posted has to do with her demands for performing concerts, not photo shoots.  Although I suppose you could say that Jennifer has had many boyfriends and husbands that have contributed to the "image" that she has ... she is not on "Modelmayhem" as a want to be model.  Back to topic!

Apr 04 13 04:00 pm Link

Model

V for Victory Modeling

Posts: 436

Roseville, California, US

Image K wrote:
You're admittedly a beginner model, have less than 1 year of experience, and you only shoot on weekends.

It doesn't surprise me that someone with your experience insists on a significant other as an escort, since you fit the profile of the vast majority of models that insist on escorts.

I actually don't insist he be there. I've gone on several shoots without him now. I do reference checking, so there is no need for an escort. My point was that when he's been at shoots with me, there's never been a problem and the people I've worked with said it's like he's not even there.

I don't shoot during the week, because I have a M-F day job...I also don't see what that has to do with bringing an escort. o_O

Patrick Walberg wrote:

Valerie Kelly wrote:
I've had my husband as an escort...none of these issues of the sort.

Valerie does NOT "insist" on anything!!!!   I've shot with her twice already, with the first shoot being in their apartment.  Her husband was there working on the computer, which is probably what I would be doing if I weren't shooting.  Then the second time, I picked them both up in my car, took them downtown San Jose to shoot around the park and a hotel, as per mutually agreed upon arrangement.

Listen, I'm not a bad guy, and I was in control of the photo shoots, but if I were a bad guy ... just think of this young couple inviting a stranger into their apartment, or taking them in my car ... while it seems like I know so much more about them than they do about me.  Her husband is a quiet, nice guy who carried our stuff downtown, and spent his time doing gaming or messaging on his cellphone. 

The fear and paranoia that people have of each other is ridicules!  First of all, I blame the Internet for this fear mongering of meeting people.  I asked Valerie and all models I might shoot with to speak with me on the phone.  I check out everyone that I might allow or invite at my photo sessions.  I actually ASKED Valerie if her husband could assist us at the second shoot! AGAIN:  Valerie did NOT insist on her husband coming, I asked her to invite him.

When I shoot at certain locations, I have asked models if they could supply me with an extra person to help out in watching our stuff, or assisting in other ways.  I've met plenty of people in advance that have worked out wonderfully at my shoots.  In the past, I've also asked models if I can bring someone too. 

This inviting of guests is a mutual decision between both the model and photographer.  Talk with each other about who and why that person would be invited.  So far, the reasons that myself and the models have been inviting people has made sense to me.  No one has ever said  "I need to have a body guard because I'm afraid of you." 

NEVER SHOOT WITH STRANGERS!!!!   I did that once and was kidnapped by two women ... one posing as a "model" and it is was all because I met them at a nightclub.

Well said, Patrick! smile

Apr 05 13 10:24 am Link

Model

Cree Synster

Posts: 275

Milledgeville, Georgia, US

My boyfriend comes with me to meeting a photographer just for the initial 'hello' and silently follows along. He stays out of the way and offers to help carry things (photography equipment, maybe my jacket if things get warm or things of the sort, real gentleman he is). I bring along escorts to first meetings with every photographer in an open place, it's just standard safety protocol for me I do with EVERY photographer.

If someone tries to manipulate me like a puppet the entire shoot (or attempts to) I'd honestly leave. No point in being there if you're not enjoying yourself!

Apr 06 13 06:37 pm Link

Photographer

AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 12834

Atlanta, Georgia, US

ontherocks wrote:
we get that sometimes with our paying boudoir customers. the woman does it as a gift for their man and then he flips out (we're a husband&wife team but maybe it's partly because another man was involved?) and we don't shoot the really racy soccer mom stuff i hear about from other shooters. men are still very much influencing their women in this town.

Never had much of an issue, but it's not like anyone but the client and their husband see them to freak out about.

P.S. I do know some clients have told their SO that my wife was the photographer

Apr 06 13 06:46 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42741

Salinas, California, US

Synster Veronica wrote:
My boyfriend comes with me to meeting a photographer just for the initial 'hello' and silently follows along. He stays out of the way and offers to help carry things (photography equipment, maybe my jacket if things get warm or things of the sort, real gentleman he is). I bring along llama herders to first meetings with every photographer in an open place, it's just standard safety protocol for me I do with EVERY photographer.

If someone tries to manipulate me like a puppet the entire shoot (or attempts to) I'd honestly leave. No point in being there if you're not enjoying yourself!

Makes total sense to me because back in the day before The Internet, we'd call each other on the phone, meet in a public venue, and decide if we wanted to work together or not.  I held real casting calls where I met the models and whomever they wanted to bring along.  It's never been a big deal.  However the people today seem to either depend on IM's and text messages so much that they've forgotten how to talk on the phone.  Then they are shocked when the other person isn't what they thought!  lol

Apr 06 13 09:31 pm Link

Photographer

Docta Shock Photografix

Posts: 1729

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

The F-Stop wrote:
So WTF did you come shoot with me for if he's a photogrpher?

smile

I don't get this. If an actress marries a director, should she ONLY appear in HIS movies?

Apr 06 13 09:50 pm Link

Model

Raven A Schmidt

Posts: 19

Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada

I feel a certain degree of irritation towards hearing about models who create problems for the rest of us. If you are hiring me for a shoot you are the artist and I am the canvas.

Heck, my husband IS a photographer too... hence why he knows to stay out of the way when I'm working for someone else. I do like his company if its a location shoot involving any longer amount of driving. The photographer I trust. Other drivers on the road not so much.... tongue He usually waits in the car or a nearby coffee shop.

Apr 09 13 04:23 am Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2248

Naperville, Illinois, US

Generalization is never a good thing. Its best to ask questions and learn from each situation. But it is always a good idea to remember no 2 people are exactly the same. No two shoots go the same way.

I have never had shoots that were the same. Even when working with the same photographers over and over each shoot is unique. As photographers get comfortable with me and me with them things go differently.

Apr 09 13 07:09 am Link

Photographer

Francisco Castro

Posts: 1735

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

Generasean Photography wrote:
I know there are a couple other forum posts about boyfriends and husbands being escorts, or models specifically saying that they have a boyfriend (in their bio/ad), but I've come across a couple models who say their boyfriend or husband is also a photographer, so they demand crazy things.

Anyone else have an encounter like that? How do you deal with it? I mean I've even shot with models who took photography class in school and tried to make me shoot a certain way (let me do my thing!) but models who say something along the lines of
"Don't try to _________ with me" or
"I expect a certain level of professionalism during the shoot" or
"I want to be shot like ____________ and paid $_______" and "by the way, I know the ins and outs because my boyfriend/husband is also a photographer"

I hope this makes sense, thanks!

Too much drama. Move on. If her husband is a photographer, then she should know that the less we hear from or of him, the better.

Apr 09 13 07:19 am Link

Photographer

Neil Templar

Posts: 398

Glastonbury, England, United Kingdom

I used to welcome llama herders but unfortunately never found any to be of any practical use to either the model or myself.

The least useful (in my experience) were Husbands and Boyfriends who all tended to have the natural ability to turn the shoot into either a performance or an inhibited waste of everyone's time.

Therefore, we now get along just fine without them. (and nobody dies!)

Apr 09 13 10:12 am Link

Photographer

name removed3

Posts: 264

Boston, Massachusetts, US

these are serious red flags, demanding things like this prior, sounds like a big mistake and dangerous.

Apr 09 13 04:42 pm Link

Model

Erin Elaine

Posts: 3

Redding, California, US

I believe everything between model and photographer should be worked out before the shoot. If you are shooting nudes I as a model may reiterate that there needs to be another level of professionalism but that should be known. I am one of those models who brings her significant other along because I have worked with wackos in the past, Also My boyfriend is a body painter (hence most of my photos) and likes to meet photographers he could work with in the future. Not all models look towards their boyfriend for approval during A shoot. I tend to look sexier and more relaxed knowing hes there and lets face it im infront of a camera I look hot and he cant do anything about it. maybe thats just my relationship but not all boyfriends are bad, not all strange questions are bad ether...your not sure what the model has gone through in the past in her own life...Just one models 2 cents! keep up the good work!

Oct 09 13 10:13 am Link

Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 11723

Oakland Acres, Iowa, US

Boyfriends and husbands:  May they never meet, especially not at one of my shoots. 

Photographer or not, I prefer to avoid boyfriend/husband escorts.

Oct 09 13 02:03 pm Link

Photographer

Jeffrey M Fletcher

Posts: 4344

Asheville, North Carolina, US

Generasean Photography wrote:
I know there are a couple other forum posts about boyfriends and husbands being escorts, or models specifically saying that they have a boyfriend (in their bio/ad), but I've come across a couple models who say their boyfriend or husband is also a photographer, so they demand crazy things.

Anyone else have an encounter like that? How do you deal with it? I mean I've even shot with models who took photography class in school and tried to make me shoot a certain way (let me do my thing!) but models who say something along the lines of
"Don't try to _________ with me" or
"I expect a certain level of professionalism during the shoot" or
"I want to be shot like ____________ and paid $_______" and "by the way, I know the ins and outs because my boyfriend/husband is also a photographer"

I hope this makes sense, thanks!

Okay, so you tell me. Why are you wanting to work with people who demand crazy things?

For me it's easy; any of that nonsense will convince me that someone is troublesome and tedious and I'll wander off to do something more productive or interesting.

Oct 09 13 02:12 pm Link

Photographer

Randall D

Posts: 259

Helena, Alabama, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

I shot soccer for 5 years. where are these racy soccer moms??????

Behind the 'Soccer Mom' Super SUV??

Oct 09 13 02:26 pm Link

Photographer

Loki Studio

Posts: 3021

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

There is a simple solution to all unreasonable terms.  "No".


California is filled with good models.  Certainly you can find somebody just as good that will agree to a reasonable offer.

Oct 09 13 02:33 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2248

Naperville, Illinois, US

oops just realized this was an older post.

Oct 09 13 02:37 pm Link