Forums > Model Colloquy > Glamour models: Dealing with overenthusiastic fans

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Hey, just a quick question.

How do you glamour models respond to a fan when he oversteps his limits--asking for "private texts" and so on?

I totally get that this is probably a common thing--I'm just wondering how the rest of you set boundaries, without losing fans?

PS: I will come back to this thread; I'm just really busy today and tomorrow. wink Also, please no "don't be a glamour model if you can't handle it" responses--I can handle it; I just want to know how others do, as well.

Apr 04 13 01:20 pm Link

Model

Jessica Vaugn

Posts: 7320

Los Angeles, California, US

I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

Apr 04 13 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

Loki Studio

Posts: 3024

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

There is no reason to provide your cell phone, personal Facebook, or other means of direct contact to a fan.  There is no good reason to meet fans except at public promotional or work events.  Your only response has to be "I only talk with my fans on Facebook or yyyy."  If they have business offers, refer them to a booking agent contact email until you can verify its legit.

Apr 04 13 01:38 pm Link

Model

Scoria

Posts: 55

Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada

Loki Studio wrote:
There is no reason to provide your cell phone, personal Facebook, or other means of direct contact to a fan.  There is no good reason to meet fans except at public promotional or work events.  Your only response has to be "I only talk with my fans on Facebook or yyyy."  If they have business offers, refer them to a booking agent contact email until you can verify its legit.

+1

Apr 04 13 02:14 pm Link

Photographer

JAE

Posts: 2145

West Chester, Pennsylvania, US

Jessica Vaugn  wrote:
I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

The Ferrari should arrive at your place tomorrow.  I had them put one of those giant bows around it.

Apr 04 13 02:26 pm Link

Model

NicoleNudes

Posts: 3861

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I just tell them that I don't give out my number unless it's for a shoot.
Or if they aren't someone I've talked to before I ignore them. It's rude, but, I'm not about to give a random person my phone number who I've never talked to before.

Apr 04 13 02:41 pm Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

JAE Photography PA wrote:

The Ferrari should arrive at your place tomorrow.  I had them put one of those giant bows around it.

xDDD

Apr 04 13 03:09 pm Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Jessica Vaugn  wrote:
I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

Somewhat off-topic, but I'd practically DIE to get advice from you on monetizing.... wink

Apr 04 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

Marc Damon

Posts: 6562

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

JAE Photography PA wrote:
The Ferrari should arrive at your place tomorrow.  I had them put one of those giant bows around it.

Ferrari? LOL Cheapskate!

Rachel and Jessica, I'm sending you each a Maybach Landaulet. What color and options would you like?
http://images.forbes.com/media/2010/02/01/0201_maybach-landaulet_485x340.jpg
No cheezy bow. It might mar the paint. Instead it comes with a dozen long stemmed red roses and a bottle of Cristal.

Apr 04 13 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Lee Studios

Posts: 1238

San Diego, California, US

When I build websites for glamour models, I either have them create a blog that I link to the site or build one it. Also you can have forums added to your site that way you can have conversations without any personal info being out there.

I also highly recommend webcam chat sessions. You charge a membership to your site and with that membership they are able to access your webcam chat when you are online and start it. OR you can join a cam site and sit there in your underwear or nude and chat to them and they have to pay for time to view the session.

Other than that do not give out any information. If they want to buy photos you can set up a store on your site and that way they never have your personal pay pal account either.

Best,
Jay

Apr 05 13 04:19 am Link

Model

Babalon Salome

Posts: 3499

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Loki Studio wrote:
There is no reason to provide your cell phone, personal Facebook, or other means of direct contact to a fan.  There is no good reason to meet fans except at public promotional or work events.  Your only response has to be "I only talk with my fans on Facebook or yyyy."  If they have business offers, refer them to a booking agent contact email until you can verify its legit.

This.

Apr 05 13 05:31 am Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Marc Damon wrote:

Ferrari? LOL Cheapskate!

Rachel and Jessica, I'm sending you each a Maybach Landaulet. What color and options would you like?
http://images.forbes.com/media/2010/02/01/0201_maybach-landaulet_485x340.jpg
No cheezy bow. It might mar the paint. Instead it comes with a dozen long stemmed red roses and a bottle of Cristal.

Canary yellow, please. smile

Apr 05 13 09:34 am Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Loki Studio wrote:
There is no reason to provide your cell phone, personal Facebook, or other means of direct contact to a fan.  There is no good reason to meet fans except at public promotional or work events.  Your only response has to be "I only talk with my fans on Facebook or yyyy."  If they have business offers, refer them to a booking agent contact email until you can verify its legit.

I know all of this--I'm wondering what words, specifically, others use in a nutshell to relate this to those fans.

Apr 05 13 09:36 am Link

Photographer

Lumigraphics

Posts: 32694

Detroit, Michigan, US

Sounds kinda pathetic to me. Either the fan or the model who encourages it.

Apr 05 13 10:14 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54149

Buena Park, California, US

Rachel-Elise  wrote:
Hey, just a quick question.

How do you glamour models respond to a fan when he oversteps his limits--asking for "private texts" and so on?

I totally get that this is probably a common thing--I'm just wondering how the rest of you set boundaries, without losing fans?

PS: I will come back to this thread; I'm just really busy today and tomorrow. wink Also, please no "don't be a glamour model if you can't handle it" responses--I can handle it; I just want to know how others do, as well.

Is this your way of telling me to back off?  a private message via text would have sufficed.

Apr 05 13 01:51 pm Link

Model

E M E R S O N

Posts: 1004

Tucson, Arizona, US

I certainly don't text my fans, they won't ever see my phone number. When they make comments that are inappropriate I just ignore them if they make me uncomfortable, I've never lost a fan because of it.

Apr 05 13 04:43 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3956

Seattle, Washington, US

Thank the fan for his enthusiasm, and tell him you'd be happy to chat with him/text him for a pre-paid rate of $50 per 15 minutes.  tongue

Apr 05 13 05:26 pm Link

Photographer

Sedition

Posts: 273

Buffalo, New York, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:
Thank the fan for his enthusiasm, and tell him you'd be happy to chat with him/text him for a pre-paid rate of $50 per 15 minutes.  tongue

$50 for 15 minutes of texting! O.O

Apr 05 13 05:39 pm Link

Model

Virginia P

Posts: 469

Los Angeles, California, US

Get a P.O. Box and create a wishlist, so that you can maintain safer contact with people, plus possibly get some goodies out of it.

Apr 05 13 07:44 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11892

Olivet, Michigan, US

Jessica Vaugn  wrote:
I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

Rachel-Elise  wrote:
Somewhat off-topic, but I'd practically DIE to get advice from you on monetizing.... wink

I suspect that staying alive is a useful part of making money as a model.

Apr 05 13 07:55 pm Link

Model

hygvhgvkhy

Posts: 2092

Chicago, Illinois, US

Art of the nude wrote:

Jessica Vaugn  wrote:
I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

I suspect that staying alive is a useful part of making money as a model.

True, but just the knowledge would be worth the dying(-:

Apr 06 13 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Carle Photography

Posts: 9227

Oakland, California, US

Jessica Vaugn  wrote:
I only text with those mega fans who are also mega buyers. I make them work for attention or easy access to conversation with me. Wanna be my favorite? Earn it.

This is great advice...

The more fans you have, the higher the price of the fame...

Apr 06 13 11:24 am Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Lumigraphics wrote:
Sounds kinda pathetic to me. Either the fan or the model who encourages it.

?

I'm certainly not encouraging it!!! So far, I've just ignored it.

Thinking about that wishlist, though. wink *remembering the other thread on how wish lists are "evil"*

Apr 06 13 02:40 pm Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Christopher Hartman wrote:

Is this your way of telling me to back off?  a private message via text would have sufficed.

LOOOOLLLLLL!!

Apr 06 13 02:41 pm Link

Model

Sabine Luise

Posts: 890

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Rachel-Elise  wrote:

?

I'm certainly not encouraging it!!! So far, I've just ignored it.

Thinking about that wishlist, though. wink *remembering the other thread on how wish lists are "evil"*

This seems interesting... I have seen others do this or with signed prints.

Apr 16 13 02:28 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42754

Salinas, California, US

Jay Lee Studios wrote:
When I build websites for glamour models, I either have them create a blog that I link to the site or build one it. Also you can have forums added to your site that way you can have conversations without any personal info being out there.

I also highly recommend webcam chat sessions. You charge a membership to your site and with that membership they are able to access your webcam chat when you are online and start it. OR you can join a cam site and sit there in your underwear or nude and chat to them and they have to pay for time to view the session.

Other than that do not give out any information. If they want to buy photos you can set up a store on your site and that way they never have your personal pay pal account either.

Best,
Jay

I like this advise.  Jay, I know a long time popular Internet model whose website has a forum, and she even has canned webcam footage that was produced previously.  Very well maintained website that has lots of fans!  As a model, you don't have to give up privacy to be popular.

Apr 16 13 02:42 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42754

Salinas, California, US

Marc Damon wrote:
Ferrari? LOL Cheapskate!

Rachel and Jessica, I'm sending you each a Maybach Landaulet. What color and options would you like?
http://images.forbes.com/media/2010/02/01/0201_maybach-landaulet_485x340.jpg
No cheezy bow. It might mar the paint. Instead it comes with a dozen long stemmed red roses and a bottle of Cristal.

Rachel-Elise  wrote:
Canary yellow, please. smile

Hmmm ... so if I gave that car to you, would you marry me? 

No wait!   I forgot for a moment that I am commitment phobic.  But if I didn't want to be single?  Naaw!  It shouldn't be about buying stuff.

Apr 16 13 02:45 pm Link

Model

Calypso Moon

Posts: 848

Banning, California, US

I don't respond to messages asking for personal information.  If a fan messages me on facebook or MM with some sort of compliment, I will respond and say thanks, but that's about it.  I don't market my personal attention.  It seems like it could be a slippery slope, especially if you got a really obsessive fan.

Apr 16 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15546

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

My PA  sends fans an autographed pic of me.

c h r i s xxx

Apr 16 13 03:36 pm Link