Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > DAR Critiques > well ?, I ask for guidance.

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vivera1977

Posts: 90

Rumia, Pomorskie, Poland

Before

http://obrazki.wapnet.pl/images/384_MG_7013_Editraw_ma_e.jpg


After

http://obrazki.wapnet.pl/images/568_MG_7013_Edit_kopia_ma.jpg

Apr 19 13 01:08 pm Link

Photographer

Bravo Magic Images

Posts: 765

Temple City, California, US

I liked the original lighting but the body tones are better on the second image.

Apr 19 13 01:19 pm Link

Retoucher

Laura EB

Posts: 65

Rochester, New York, US

I can tell you used a blur technique on the skin here, which is fine if you're learning but be careful with it.  You've lost all the detail in the hands since the deep shadows and highlights are blurred out it just makes them look flat.  Try masking off these areas a bit to get back some of the shape, it'll be less of a giveaway that you used blur or better yet try working on some Dodge and Burn techniques smile

Apr 21 13 06:19 am Link

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vivera1977

Posts: 90

Rumia, Pomorskie, Poland

Laura Bello wrote:
I can tell you used a blur technique on the skin here, which is fine if you're learning but be careful with it.  You've lost all the detail in the hands since the deep shadows and highlights are blurred out it just makes them look flat.  Try masking off these areas a bit to get back some of the shape, it'll be less of a giveaway that you used blur or better yet try working on some Dodge and Burn techniques smile

This is the only d & b, do not use anything else. Thanks for the tips.

Apr 21 13 10:49 am Link

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Laura EB

Posts: 65

Rochester, New York, US

vivera1977 wrote:
This is the only d & b, do not use anything else. Thanks for the tips.

Hmm strange, then I would say the lowered contrast in the image, mainly in the hand area, makes it look blurred because you lose all the details and it looks strange.  I'd hate for you to spend all that time D&Bing then lose that look.  Maybe try to keep the highlights a bit brighter and less yellow toned?

Apr 21 13 03:11 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 8753

Olney, Maryland, US

I like the before better.  But I would remove the three small lines in her torso.

I guess that I will never become a great photographer.

Apr 21 13 03:23 pm Link

Retoucher

NickWatson

Posts: 59

London, England, United Kingdom

too much dnb so looks bruised. you need to concentrate on the small distracting things, i have done a typical client brief for you to start training your eye. hope it helps

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8548/8702090122_46aea3ff5c_c.jpg

May 02 13 06:28 am Link

Retoucher

NickWatson

Posts: 59

London, England, United Kingdom

quick example of what i mean and a colour set as a mood example:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8131/8700995895_2e16f080e5_c.jpg

May 02 13 06:41 am Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8347

Imperial, California, US

The after photo looks yellow to me, the original has truer color.

May 02 13 06:46 am Link

Photographer

Don Garrett

Posts: 4628

Escondido, California, US

The first one is too red/magenta, and the second one is too yellow, in my opinion. Something in between would be best. I would lean toward the first one, in terms of color, because, if you look at real human skin, it will be more like the first one than the second one. (like the guy above me has already said). Of course, there are so many different color types, and skin is so hard to get exactly right anyway, that it is hard to give any absolutes. The main point is, that it has to look and print good, and the print should be at least very close to what you see on your monitor, (color management can be a bitch).
Otherwise, I would keep skin texture very close to what was captured, and only get rid of the major blemishes, and wrinkles.
  The overall contrast looks pretty good to me.
-Don

May 02 13 06:53 am Link

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LarrySparks Photography

Posts: 117

Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Thanks Mark for the Client Brief....I also prefer the lighting in the before pic smile

Aug 07 13 03:22 am Link