Hello! I am doing a survey of models on our working conditions. I am offering a prize draw for an accessory to one of the respondents!
Apr 23 13 08:07 am Link
Riverside, California, US
Apr 23 13 11:44 am Link
Berkeley, California, US
Apr 23 13 08:03 pm Link
Portland, Oregon, US
Apr 23 13 08:15 pm Link
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Cool! I'll bite!
Apr 24 13 01:24 am Link
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Apr 24 13 05:12 am Link
Sarajevo, Federacija Bosna i Hercegovina, Bosnia and Herzegovina
I would definitely like to see the results and analysis of the results. please post it when survey is done.
Apr 24 13 06:27 am Link
thank you for responding! I hope to have some results soon! So far the sample size is about 10 away from being viable!
Apr 26 13 10:26 am Link
Olney, Maryland, US
Apr 26 13 10:32 am Link
Castle Rock, Colorado, US
How does one take the Survey if they've never worked with you, They wouldn't know your working conditions. Might have better luck contacting the Models you've worked with.
Apr 26 13 12:33 pm Link
I am a model; I am also doing social science research on models about their employment. If you take the survey, it will be about your experiences as a model, not your experiences with me personally.
Apr 26 13 12:37 pm Link
Turlock, California, US
I check out the survey, It's pretty good, but I am worried that it is still slightly skewed to discuss negative experiences rather than positive ones. Especially questions 7 and 8. They are only focused on negative experiences For example the question "Have you ever experienced...: Industry advancement based on results of the shoot." is not asked, nor are any other positive outcomes that can come from a shoot mentioned.
If you want truly beneficial statistics, your survey needs to be balanced.
Apr 26 13 02:35 pm Link
OTTSVILLE, Pennsylvania, US
Took the survey.
Apr 26 13 04:39 pm Link
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Apr 28 13 07:57 am Link
Boutique Photography CA wrote:
Generally research about labour conditions isn't all unicorns and rainbows. Frankly I don't see how a survey about why models have an awesome time modeling would be relevant -- that should be the default. The survey is looking for conditions that are aberrant and need to be changed for the workplace to be agreeable.
Apr 28 13 02:23 pm Link
Phoenix, Arizona, US
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Apr 28 13 03:18 pm Link
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom
Completed the survey! Thanks!
Apr 28 13 05:18 pm Link
Detroit, Michigan, US
Apr 28 13 06:34 pm Link
Moncks Corner, South Carolina, US
Apr 28 13 06:41 pm Link
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
This is a waste of time unless the OP is trying to unionize the industry. I do think bad things happen but where are the questions about how models come on set demanding, not prepared and then want to be paid. There are two sides to this and the survey is heavily biased trying to show that models are harassed both sexually and financially .
I would love to know the OPs rational for such a survey and what her thesis is regarding the study she requesting
Apr 28 13 07:20 pm Link
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
The questions are not biased. They say "have you ever," not "tell me about the time you were." I am looking at rates of abuse. It's relevant to know if that is 5% or 40%.
Apr 29 13 01:12 pm Link
Apr 29 13 01:21 pm Link
Olivet, Michigan, US
I'm not sure what "viable" means in a statistical sense, but certainly this is nothing like a random sample.
Apr 29 13 01:41 pm Link
Beckley, West Virginia, US
Kind of a targeted survey recruiting on here and definitely sounds like something with an agenda to me, but whatever. I'd actually be curious to see the difference in regular MM models and agency models. That could be interesting.
Apr 29 13 01:48 pm Link
1. I have recruited all over the place for models, not just here. If I am doing a survey of models, I recruit where models go. I work with two agencies and have also recruited models that way. I am looking at several levels of the industry.
2. Statistically I am looking for 95% confidence level, and a confidence interval of 5. This means that based on an generously estimated population of 300 000 I need a sample size of 384. If you are a statistician feel free to double-check my math.
3. If models haven't experienced any of these negative things, they skip the question. If you want to do research about how many photographers have bad experiences with models, you are welcome to do that, but it's not relevant to the scope of this study.
4. There is no such thing as unbiased research or truly random sampling. Surely you know that most research is done on college students getting paid $5 to do something like dip their hand in a bucket of water and then tell a lie (or whatever). I studied this for years in school and have also done it at work.
Apr 29 13 01:51 pm Link
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Apr 29 13 01:55 pm Link
Will Snizek wrote:
I am both, but so far I haven't seen much of a difference. It happens in different ways, but at all levels of the industry.
Apr 29 13 02:00 pm Link
Orlando, Florida, US
Why the hell are photographers responding to this thread let the models answer their survey and that's it. You guys always reply only to nitpick as if this survey somehow affects them.
So you admit there is no such thing as accurate, random or unbiased research, but are doing a survey anyway. Got it.
Orlando, Florida, US
You are projecting so badly here
Apr 29 13 02:14 pm Link
My earlier replies were serious. From the replies that the OP has given, I sense that the survey is ridiculous, biased and contains an agenda, which isn't hidden very well.
Apr 29 13 02:20 pm Link
There *is* such a thing as accurate research, but there is no such thing as unbiased research, because even something as banal and necessary as a thesis statement is by definition bias... this research is modeled on the work I do in public health: if I am looking at negative conditions experienced by people with disabilities in their work, for example, other things are immaterial. There is both a "not any" and "other" field with that question as well.
For more accurate research, one has to limit the scope because one cannot cover everything in one survey. Also, of course I have an agenda: my agenda is to get some statistics for one small chapter of an ongoing participant-observation project for a thesis. If you are curious, you can read a sociology textbook and learn more about it.
If you are doing everything right with your work, I don't see why you would be so threatened by someone asking a few questions or reporting on some issues that are well-known in the community.
I am surveying men, women, and trans* people, asking questions that aren't leading, and recruiting through at least ten different fora. I honestly don't understand the hostility, because again, if you aren't doing anything wrong, it won't hurt you in any way.
As far as I'm concerned, I would love to see lower figures on this study because that would mean fewer people are being hurt. I'm not out to prove that photographers are scumbags as you seem to think I am: obviously I have worked with a lot of great ones and am also friends with many. I just think it benefits everyone to have accurate numbers.
Apr 29 13 02:40 pm Link
I am also curious as to why there is so much vitriol. Surely it benefits everyone serious about their craft to attempt to have accurate information about the industry in which they work.
Apr 29 13 02:45 pm Link
This study needs to run its course - if there are problems with the research I am sure they will come up during the peer review process.
Apr 29 13 03:22 pm Link
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US
No, it would not mean that - and this gets at why your survey is getting criticism.
Apr 29 13 04:04 pm Link
I appreciate your concern, but I do do this for a living, and you are assuming the worst about my level of expertise in this area. Most of the responses here from photographers objecting to the research being done have been quite condescending.
This is one survey of many, and there are qualitative questions that have the models describe any negative experience in detail if they have had one. It's basically a 10-question preliminary inquiry in ongoing research, and it's based on research in labour conditions, which is dependent on self-reporting (ie. as one would report to HR in a company).
Abbitt Photography wrote:
That is completely a false equivalency. "Have you ever experienced sexual assault by an employer (while working as a model)... if so, describe the experience." is not "have you ever been struck (in your entire life)."
Apr 29 13 04:42 pm Link
Where will we be able to read the results of your research?
Apr 29 13 04:54 pm Link
In Balance Photography wrote:
As I posted above, I am doing a series here with informal reports on progress, and also just article drafts/sketches.
Apr 29 13 04:58 pm Link
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Apr 29 13 05:04 pm Link
By publishing intermediate results (as well as the commenting here) are you concerned that independent of actual effect that it would provide more data for those that question the objectivity of study?
Apr 29 13 05:14 pm Link