Forums > Model Colloquy > Photos out of order, and number lists!

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Tiffany Bond

Posts: 76

West Jordan, Utah, US

How many of you have this happen to you sometimes (or in my case, every other time)? Photographers will send you a heap of photos either on disc or through email, and tell you to pick x amount that you want edited. Then they tell you to look at the image number and make a list of all the photo numbers. Well, it turns out they've sent them all completely out of order, and there are hundreds of photos to choose from. So a lot of similar-looking pictures are scattered here and there and everywhere away from each other, which not only makes comparing them to one another impossible unless you open each individually and line them up together... but it also makes the number list confusing. If there's a photo limit, it's even worse. You end up with this list of numbers, and you can't remember which photo went with what number, so you end up having to go back and search for each number (out of order none the less) so you can double-check that's absolutely the photo you've decided on. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I promise, it's frustrating. Sometimes, I go through and re-check a set of photos one by one several times before I'm convinced I'm not accidentally skipping over a photo I really want.

Does anyone else have this happen to them? How do you handle it and organize it in a way that doesn't make you crazy?

May 02 13 01:50 pm Link

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T A Y L O R

Posts: 2977

Austin, Texas, US

Tiffany Bond wrote:
How many of you have this happen to you sometimes (or in my case, every other time)? Photographers will send you a heap of photos either on disc or through email, and tell you to pick x amount that you want edited. Then they tell you to look at the image number and make a list of all the photo numbers. Well, it turns out they've sent them all completely out of order, and there are hundreds of photos to choose from. So a lot of similar-looking pictures are scattered here and there and everywhere away from each other, which not only makes comparing them to one another impossible unless you open each individually and line them up together... but it also makes the number list confusing. If there's a photo limit, it's even worse. You end up with this list of numbers, and you can't remember which photo went with what number, so you end up having to go back and search for each number (out of order none the less) so you can double-check that's absolutely the photo you've decided on. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I promise, it's frustrating. Sometimes, I go through and re-check a set of photos one by one several times before I'm convinced I'm not accidentally skipping over a photo I really want.

Does anyone else have this happen to them? How do you handle it and organize it in a way that doesn't make you crazy?

This IS really frustrating. I've found the best way to sort through any number of images I'm given is to make 2 additional folders. Make a "yes" folder and a "no" folder.
Put any images you immediately liked and are sure you want to take a second look at in the "yes" folder.
Put any images you immediately saw and thought "I'll never choose this," in the "no" folder.
Leave any uncertainties in the original folder.

From there you can either go through the maybe's once more for any definite yes's or no's or just move on to sifting through the yes's. It'll be much easier to sort through a bunch of images you initially liked. If you did 6 looks, you can just create sub folders in your "yes" folder and drag and drop all the images so you can look at them separately. The organization, at least for me, helps a lot.

May 02 13 02:30 pm Link

Photographer

A N D E R S O N

Posts: 2553

Fountain Valley, California, US

Not sure why it would matter if they were in order or not? My files are usually something like DSC_392, DSC,_354. So just write down 354 if you liked that one...

Edit* Maybe ask them to send over the good ones for you to choose from and remove all the junk shots. Whenever I have clients select images it's usually out of 20-30 shots that have made it past my first run through.

May 02 13 02:34 pm Link

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Adam J Caldwell

Posts: 289

London, England, United Kingdom

Why don't you just change your computer to list the files in order of number?

On a mac you just click "name" on the finder and it does it.

Dunno about windows.

May 02 13 02:48 pm Link

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sidney_k

Posts: 874

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Sometimes photographers rename their images according to their selection method, then it can become a problem having the order show up chronologically.

If the case, have the photographer send you a copy of their selection with the original camera file numbering.

May 02 13 02:58 pm Link

Model

Tiffany Bond

Posts: 76

West Jordan, Utah, US

A N D E R S O N wrote:
Not sure why it would matter if they were in order or not? My files are usually something like DSC_392, DSC,_354. So just write down 354 if you liked that one...

Edit* Maybe ask them to send over the good ones for you to choose from and remove all the junk shots. Whenever I have clients select images it's usually out of 20-30 shots that have made it past my first run through.

I'm not sure how else to explain it to you, or I would. I promise, the out-of-order-ness is definitely a confusing problem.


Adam J Caldwell wrote:
Why don't you just change your computer to list the files in order of number?

On a mac you just click "name" on the finder and it does it.

Dunno about windows.

I actually thought about finding a program or something that would just put them in order for me, but it wasn't terribly easy to find exactly what I was looking for. This method would also work for folders or disks, but not as much as files that are individually sent as a wall of text through email. I run windows, and I'm sort of technology-limited in my computer skills aside from photoshop and internet.

May 02 13 03:49 pm Link

Model

Tiffany Bond

Posts: 76

West Jordan, Utah, US

T A Y L O R  wrote:
This IS really frustrating. I've found the best way to sort through any number of images I'm given is to make 2 additional folders. Make a "yes" folder and a "no" folder.
Put any images you immediately liked and are sure you want to take a second look at in the "yes" folder.
Put any images you immediately saw and thought "I'll never choose this," in the "no" folder.
Leave any uncertainties in the original folder.

From there you can either go through the maybe's once more for any definite yes's or no's or just move on to sifting through the yes's. It'll be much easier to sort through a bunch of images you initially liked. If you did 6 looks, you can just create sub folders in your "yes" folder and drag and drop all the images so you can look at them separately. The organization, at least for me, helps a lot.

This actually makes a decent amount of sense. Unless they're not in a folder to begin with. But I could always just save the ones I like to folders as I go along, and leave the ones I don't like untouched in my email.

May 02 13 03:54 pm Link

Photographer

Joseph William

Posts: 2027

Chicago, Illinois, US

I use adobe bridge to sort and view images.  It is free with photoshop but probably not free alone.  There is a program called breeze browser that may be free or you can search for an image browser program that can easily let you view all your images sort, and rank them.

May 02 13 04:21 pm Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32234

Woodinville, Washington, US

Tiffany Bond wrote:
I'm not sure how else to explain it to you, or I would. I promise, the out-of-order-ness is definitely a confusing problem.

It would help if you gave us examples of the filenames in the "heap" of image files you get from a photographer.

May 02 13 04:50 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32234

Woodinville, Washington, US

Adam J Caldwell wrote:
Why don't you just change your computer to list the files in order of number?

On a mac you just click "name" on the finder and it does it.

Dunno about windows.

It's the same for Windows in Windows Explorer.

May 02 13 04:51 pm Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32234

Woodinville, Washington, US

A N D E R S O N wrote:
Not sure why it would matter if they were in order or not? My files are usually something like DSC_392, DSC,_354. So just write down 354 if you liked that one...

Yep. I usually reset the camera's filename counter at the start of every shoot (DSC_00001) but it reall doesn't matter if I do. They're still in numerical order as I shot them.

As standard practice, the first thing I do after uploading from card to computer is bulk-rename the images via PS Bridge. My naming convention is: Modelname_Date-of-shoot_sequence#

Example: SUSAN_20130502_001

That way there's no confusion as to the nature of the file if I misplace a file in the wrong folder.

May 02 13 04:58 pm Link

Model

Tiffany Bond

Posts: 76

West Jordan, Utah, US

It'll say like IMG_140.jpeg then it'll go to like 280 on the next photo (an entirely different sequence of images) then it'll go back to like 115 or something. So none of the images are grouped into their proper sequence, and the files are embedded into the email. The fact that they are embedded and seriously disorganized makes it hard for me to compare photos to their similar sequences without opening the files into their own individual windows to compare side by side. If there's a sailor picture embedded at the top of the page next to a few mermaid pictures, while the other sailor pictures are at the bottom of the page, I'm going to have to scroll back and forth to compare.

I'm running linux technically (temporarily until I get a new OS) which I often chalk in with Windows, even though it's closer to MAC.

I ended up just saving the files I wanted one at a time to a folder, then having the folder organize the photos by name, then when all was said and done, I did final adjustments of keep and discard, and manually typed each number of the pictures I wanted. My best friend is a programmer, and he said he'll set it up to where it's easier on me next time.

May 03 13 10:04 am Link

Model

T A Y L O R

Posts: 2977

Austin, Texas, US

Tiffany Bond wrote:

This actually makes a decent amount of sense. Unless they're not in a folder to begin with. But I could always just save the ones I like to folders as I go along, and leave the ones I don't like untouched in my email.

Not sure what email client you're using, but in Gmail I'm given the option to "download all files" and then I just go from there.

May 03 13 10:43 am Link