Forums > Hair, Makeup & Styling > MUA's being contacted by a guy named Azelle

Model

Legacy No More

Posts: 155

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

I already posted this in General Industry too - but I thought I would share here as well... since he found me via my old MUA profile on MM. I just want everyone to know what happened. To myself & most, this is obviously fishy, but I worry about new and/or more trusting girls.

The guy implies he is legit, yet he refused to answer any of my questions and the whole thing gave off a very shady vibe from the get-go.

Here is the complete email correspondence that took place between us [I to get a little hostile, so please excuse that. I was upset]

12:00 pm 5/21/13 I receive the first email
[I did not notice until later that he had emailed it to the address listed on my old MUA MM acct, since everything sent there forwards to my primary email]

IT SAID:

From: azelle@rosecitymodels.com via sendgrid.me

What are your makeup artist rates per hour?

I am looking for excellent people to do makeup work for events, concerts, weddings, and models. This is paid work.
This is freelance work

What is your main location?
what is your direct contact number/cell number?
what are your social and work related links so we can see all of you work?

My companies also provide models and photographers if you need that.We also send out all castings you may have for free
if you are looking for something we don’t have. Please let me know

Azelle
Rose City Empire
(323) 570-2613
SKYPE video calls - Rosecityempire

http://rosecityempire.com/ (fashion,glam,published models)
http://nationwidemodels.info/ (swimwear, eye candy, lingerie models)
http://rosecitymakeup.com/ (makeup artist and hairstylist)

MY REPLY:

Thank you for contacting me. May I ask how you heard about me?
Where are you located?

I am located in Daphne, AL.
I work for $25/ hr. and depending on travel distance may require additional compensation for my time/gas.

I do require the client provide their own foundation, powder & false lashes.

My cell is ---.---.----
I will have to get back w/ you on my SNS link as I've not accessed it in quite some time and don't remember the URL [though it is on ModelMayhem]

Thank you-
Amber 'Tally' Clark


HIS REPLY:

We want to work with you ongoing on a freelance basis
It works this way, Our clients see your resume and pics and contact us we then contact you and you decide if you want the job
All jobs we cast pay the Makeup artist and your freelance, travel is paid when you have to leave your area
If your ready to start working now I need this form, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS FORM TO SEND YOUR INFO/PICS TO CLIENTS
http://rosecityempire.com/makeup-artist-agreement/
just scroll down, type info and click submit it will come right to my server


MY REPLY:

I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions first. You make your business look very shady by not having done so already - also by telling me that you want to work with me before even having reviewed any of my work?! The fact that your website has zero information about who you are is also less than professional. So, this is your chance to prove to me that you are professional & legit...
I'm not being rude, just honest.
If you want to present yourself as a professional business and put your potential contracted MUA's at ease, this is an absolute necessity!
Regards -
Tally

HIS REPLY:

my people are working, I don’t need to prove anything thanks for your time

Azelle
Rose City Empire
(323) 570-2613
SKYPE video calls - Rosecityempire

MY REPLY:

You don't need to prove anything because you CAN'T.
Case in point... I found all this... Links attached below.

YOU are a FAKE and a COWARD!!!!!
Of course, your lack of a single ounce of intelligence in your correspondence gave that away from the very beginning.

Go to hell.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Auburn_Guy/s … 6377575426

http://old.tweettunnel.com/reverse2.php … Auburn_Guy

https://mobile.twitter.com/Auburn_Guy/s … 7202630657

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=89294

http://www.garageglamour.com/forums/mai … -up-2.html


HIS REPLY:

Like I said no need to prove anything to you, all that is from one guy with no credibility and shit from 06, good luck with you illustrious career smile

MY REPLY:
[I know I should have stopped by now, but I couldn't make myself. Anger took over]

The thing is, It's NOT just that one guy...
You'll get yours - you just wait and see!
IF you were legit, our correspondence would not have played out this way. You ARE a failure.
Good luck with your, oh wait, never-mind. You will accomplish nothing.
http://thedirty.com/2013/01/30k-million … elle-hall/

Lastly - it is NOT about proving yourself/anything.
It was about simple business professionalism and answering questions. You outed yourself long before I found those negative statements about you

HIS REPLY:

same guy again, you are brilliant. this is the last response you will receive, wasting my time
Azelle

MY FINAL REPLY:
You are : Blocked. Reported.
I am: Disgusted by people like you.
YOU waste the time of everyone you contact.


   
I have contacted some of the Photogrophers, Models & MUA's that I was able to find via copyright info on some of the photos. Have not heard back from all of them yet though.

It is just so shady. I have contacted godaddy [who he hosts all 4 of is sites with] and voiced my concern.

http://rosecityempire.com/
http://nationwidemodels.info/
http://rosecitymakeup.com/
http://rosecityphotos.com/

He has copyrighted photos in slide shows that are not even related to any of his so-called MUA's and Models.

Just watch out for this guy ladies!

May 21 13 11:06 pm Link

Makeup Artist

ArtistryImage

Posts: 2901

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Tallulah_13 sorry you've had to deal with this...

unfortunately there are entities who's business model is less than appropriate...

Here is information on this entity...
Seems he wasn't savvy enough to cloak his DNS record....

Registrant:
      Rosecity Empire
      azelle hall
      25 sw woods
      Portland, OR 97205
      US
      Phone: +1.5037541391
      Email:

   Domain Name: rosecitymakeup.com
      Created on..............: 2012-11-13
      Expires on..............: 2013-11-13

   Administrative Contact:
      Rosecity Empire
      azelle hall
      25 sw woods
      Portland, OR 97205
      US
      Phone: +1.5037541391
      Email:

   Technical  Contact:
      Registercom
      Domain Registrar
      12808 Gran Bay Pkwy
      West Jacksonville, FL 32258
      US
      Phone: +1.9027492701
      Email:

   DNS Servers:
      ns2.servage.net
      ns1.servage.net

All the best on your journey

May 22 13 05:53 am Link

Model

Legacy No More

Posts: 155

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

Kicking myself for not getting screen shots of his tumbler before I outed him on his Facebook page. [there were lots of trashy porn photos with his 'company' phone number posted under each one] Now he has deleted the evidence... or maybe tumbler did, because I also reported him to them, but it happened so fast I think it was Azelle.

I have done a TON of digging on him and contacted a lot of people....  next I will be contacting the authorities.

May 22 13 08:58 am Link

Model

Legacy No More

Posts: 155

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

ArtistryImage wrote:
Tallulah_13 sorry you've had to deal with this...

unfortunately there are entities who's business model is less than appropriate...

Here is information on this entity...
Seems he wasn't savvy enough to cloak his DNS record....


All the best on your journey

He uses a different # for his scamming... or whatever it is that he is trying to do.
It is (323) 570-2613
Thank you for the other info... I have found some of it too.

May 22 13 09:00 am Link

Makeup Artist

Janelle Hayden

Posts: 70

Portland, Oregon, US

My husband owns an IT firm and they search for his servers which are out of Germany!!! No reason for that unless you are trying to hide something!!! He wont stop contacting me either! I have tried to set up a meeting with him to stop him but he doesn't ever show up!!!!
Horrible!
Thanks for posting about this!!!

May 23 13 04:31 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Legacy No More wrote:
Kicking myself for not getting screen shots of his tumbler before I outed him on his Facebook page. [there were lots of trashy porn photos with his 'company' phone number posted under each one] Now he has deleted the evidence... or maybe tumbler did, because I also reported him to them, but it happened so fast I think it was Azelle.

I have done a TON of digging on him and contacted a lot of people....  next I will be contacting the authorities.

Can I ask why you've spent so much time to "out" someone? So, you encountered someone who is making promises to models and other industry people and making themselves sound like they're a big deal, when they're not.

First, if the person had been legit, you would have been kicked to the curb because, although you're talking about professionalism, that is NOT the way you request references or verify credentials. The entire email has the tone equivalent of a "Neener Neener" response.

What authorities would you be contacting exactly? Nothing I saw in his correspondence was against the law in any way. Do you go to the authorities when a guy at the club tells you he makes $200k when he only makes $50k? Or if he says he's a successful Stockbroker, when he works at Kinko's?

If you take the time to probe into every flakey offer, you're not going to have any time for real work.

Jun 02 13 06:02 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Janelle Hayden  wrote:
My husband owns an IT firm and they search for his servers which are out of Germany!!! No reason for that unless you are trying to hide something!!! He wont stop contacting me either! I have tried to set up a meeting with him to stop him but he doesn't ever show up!!!!
Horrible!
Thanks for posting about this!!!

My goodness you guys have a lot of free time. And what's the end game here, other than the self-satisfaction that you tracked this ruthless criminal mastermind down to his country of origin? Do you think you're going to stop him? And stop him from what exactly?

I don't think the Secret Service spends this much time investigating International Ponzi Schemes lol

Jun 02 13 06:06 pm Link

Photographer

Brick Wilson

Posts: 370

Carol Stream, Illinois, US

Janelle Hayden  wrote:
My husband owns an IT firm and they search for his servers which are out of Germany!!! No reason for that unless you are trying to hide something!!! He wont stop contacting me either! I have tried to set up a meeting with him to stop him but he doesn't ever show up!!!!
Horrible!
Thanks for posting about this!!!

That doesn't really make any sense. Our websites are hosted in Germany too. Not because we're hiding something, but because the host advertises internationally and had some fantastic special prices.

While this person surely seems to be a scammer, I wouldn't use that as evidence.

Jun 02 13 06:49 pm Link

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Makeup Artist

Mary

Posts: 7169

Coronado, California, US

I'm a bit surprised that getting an email like this surprises you?  when you're in a biker bar you expect to see bikers right?   when you're in a church you expect to run into some religious people right?  You're on Model Mayhem....   No offense to the fine people that run this site or the fine professionals that post here on occasion...  take a look around you... this is not where you're going to find legit business proposals.  You might be better off just hitting delete when you get these emails...  Legit clients will rarely find you on a site like this and they will never ask to see more pictures because if they cared enough to email you, they have already seen your portfolio right?

Jun 03 13 12:37 am Link

Makeup Artist

Tara Pagliara MUA

Posts: 704

New York, New York, US

When I get emails like this, I just do not reply, hit delete and keep it moving. If I replied to all the "help I have been robbed and I am stuck abroad" emails I would never have time to work.

Jun 03 13 04:43 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Lauren Reynolds Makeup

Posts: 282

London, England, United Kingdom

Tara Pags wrote:
When I get emails like this, I just do not reply, hit delete and keep it moving. If I replied to all the "help I have been robbed and I am stuck abroad" emails I would never have time to work.

+1 First couple of lines and *delete*...

Jun 03 13 05:37 pm Link

Photographer

Sal W Hanna

Posts: 6629

Huntington Beach, California, US

They messaged me asking for me to be a part of their organization. After talking with one person claiming to be Azelle via email, I messaged the "Azelle" on Facebook only to be told that all their messages are signed with the same name. Second, that Azelle is the owner and wants to control everything. I replied back to the original email and told "Azelle" that I was not interested only to get a similar response to yours.

Jun 03 13 05:42 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Carmen Make up and Hair

Posts: 324

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

There is no point trying to reason with unreasonable people.

Jun 03 13 10:40 pm Link

Makeup Artist

StephanieMazzeo

Posts: 115

Los Angeles, California, US

You work for $25 an hour?

Jun 05 13 09:02 am Link

Makeup Artist

Tara Pagliara MUA

Posts: 704

New York, New York, US

StephanieMazzeo wrote:
You work for $25 an hour?

Totally missed that.

Jun 06 13 06:35 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Kim Y

Posts: 235

Los Angeles, California, US

you require clients to bring in their own foundation, powders and lashes?

Jun 10 13 03:35 pm Link